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Representative Assembly Meeting Minutes (in Color)
Ulrika Zugzwang Magnanimous in Victory Join date: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 6,382	06-27-2005 22:14 RA Meeting on 27 June 2005 - Part 2 of 5 Dianne Mechanique: i konw her Sudane Erato: ahhh Sudane Erato: wish we could get her back Gwyneth Llewelyn: The third one was the Costume Party - lol. As said, they barely got admission to the system. Dianne Mechanique: she left? Ryker Tonic: i like the name Sudane Erato: thats right! Dianne Mechanique: :( Garnet Psaltery: is a tradition in UK to have a silly party Dianne Mechanique: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, pendari has been active, but just not in Neualtenburg Dianne Mechanique: canada to Dianne Mechanique: too Sudane Erato: a silly tradition :) Garnet Psaltery: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn shrugs* Dianne Mechanique: i hardly knwo her Gwyneth Llewelyn: There wasn't anything to stop people for doing any kind of party. Eugene Pomeray is online Gwyneth Llewelyn: basically, if you had enough members, and a group set up for the elections, that was all that was needed. Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, Eugene is back, yes! Garnet Psaltery: and can thi schange now or not? Sudane Erato: great! Sudane Erato: yes, sure Gwyneth Llewelyn: Of course, it has to change, since either the MPP or the Costume Party don't have any members right now :( Dianne Mechanique: costume party? Gwyneth Llewelyn: So we should have people form new parties. Eugene Pomeray: hello Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol yes Garnet Psaltery: Right so befor elections you need at least one new party? Sudane Erato: yes, absolutely Eugene Pomeray: sorry i was having some technicalissue :( Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, you should - it would be better if we had another one, yes. Sudane Erato: Eugene, come and sit down Dianne Mechanique: do the parties declare platforms ahead of their being created? Dianne Mechanique: wht was the platform or reason d'etre of the german party for instance? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Usually, yes, Dianne - so that they can recruit new members, and be eligible. Gwyneth Llewelyn: There wasn't a "german party", if I remember correctly :) Dianne Mechanique: ohmisnomer Sudane Erato: I don't remember one Dianne Mechanique: i thought yo uwere talking about german party sorry Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah no :) Dianne Mechanique: sunded scary a bit Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Dianne Mechanique: lederhosen fo rall Gwyneth Llewelyn: nooo lol Sudane Erato: oh no! :) Garnet Psaltery: well it wouldn't be a good idea to have elections too soon Garnet Psaltery: if we have to set up parties Sudane Erato: perhaps 2 weeks? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I was checking if I had a notecard with the manifest of the SDF.... but I think not.... Garnet Psaltery: 4 weeks would eb better Gwyneth Llewelyn: And yes, I think we need to do this in two steps, as we did last time.... Sudane Erato: OK Gwyneth Llewelyn: 2 weeks for parties to form, 2 weeks for campaining. Garnet Psaltery: yes Dianne Mechanique: so there is still a chance to start a party? Sudane Erato: I just feel that no one is represented now... Dianne Mechanique: for pendari? Sudane Erato: so there is some urgency to it Garnet Psaltery: is there anyoen here about to start a party? Gwyneth Llewelyn: I agree, Sudane - but I also think that people should have a bit of time to organize again. Dianne Mechanique: not I Eugene Pomeray: i am now on a dialup connection, and sl is very slow,my broadband connection died on me Eugene Pomeray: :( Dianne Mechanique: i just hought we were talking about the party forming stage as bieing over Ryker Tonic: wow Eugene Pomeray: so, i cannot see anything :P Sudane Erato: well, perhaps we could do these first elections with one party? Garnet Psaltery: can you see typing eugne? Garnet Psaltery: no I think that's a bad idea Dianne Mechanique: does not look good Eugene Pomeray: yes Dianne Mechanique: woud be great to get a second Garnet Psaltery: I woudl leike to see another choice of party Sudane Erato: OK Dianne Mechanique: makes us look like Iran or somethign Garnet Psaltery: if no-one else dies I'll do it but nt all that keen Sudane Erato: lol Dianne Mechanique: but nothign anit-democratica aobut it Dianne Mechanique: if other parties do not happen to form Sudane Erato: well, doesn't there need to be a real difference of opinion? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, last time we had a few radical groups :) Nothing wrong with that, if they comply with the rules.... Dianne Mechanique: would be nice Sudane Erato: for there to be another party Garnet Psaltery: yes and new poeple now who didn't have a chance before Sudane Erato: thats true Eugene Pomeray: i am thinking of creating a poarty Ryker Tonic: with only one party, is there a need for elections...if we can only vote for factions? Dianne Mechanique: perhaps garnet and I could start the hankerchief on the head party or somethign Dianne Mechanique: just for show Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, Ryker, there was a slight twist... Garnet Psaltery: please don't mwntion the hanky Dianne Mechanique: :) Sudane Erato: hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Just to clarify this briefly.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: The elections were a double-vote thingy. Gwyneth Llewelyn: All citizens voted for a faction. Gwyneth Llewelyn: But all "party members" also voted on the party leader Gwyneth Llewelyn: Actually, they had to select the order they preferred for their own party.... Sudane Erato: thats right Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm, like the Australian system, if I remember correctly? Sudane Erato: I'm beginning to remember :) Garnet Psaltery: can thi sbe doen in 2 weeks? Ryker Tonic: seems like overkill for 13 people Gwyneth Llewelyn: AH yes - the election proper was done on a weekend, we have all the software thingies that do that. Sudane Erato: well, it will be a bit overkill Eugene Pomeray: i must go, the lag is killing me :( Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, poor Eugene. Sudane Erato: but, its the structure for the future Garnet Psaltery: sorry aboutt hat eugene Dianne Mechanique: eugene is running is he not? Gwyneth Llewelyn: We'll get you a transcript, Eugene.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: And he said so, Dianne, so I expect he will :) Sudane Erato: yes, I'm sure... Dianne Mechanique: saw a poster Garnet Psaltery: well as I said I'llset one up ifn o-one else does Eugene Pomeray: can some one "represent me"? i will right via email Eugene Pomeray: write Gwyneth Llewelyn nods* @ Eugene Garnet Psaltery: Bon dis neutral at th emoment Garnet Psaltery: not having bough tin yet Eugene Pomeray: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Good point :) Bond Harrington: Yeah, I'm just fascinated by all this, and a bit overwhelmed Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol yes Ryker Tonic: lol Eugene Pomeray: before i go, i have a marketstall for the expo Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes? Great, Eugene :) Sudane Erato: yes, great! Ryker Tonic: when is the expo? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, that's the second point to discuss, hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: We should finish the "elections" item first. Ryker Tonic: sorry Garnet Psaltery: I propose we set a date 4 weeks from now for elections Ryker Tonic: to get ahead Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes, I would agree with that, Garnet. Dianne Mechanique: second Sudane Erato: great! Gwyneth Llewelyn: And let people start to post on the forums Ryker Tonic has a short attnetion span. Sudane Erato: Sunday July 26 Gwyneth Llewelyn: ideas and suggestions for parties, etc. Dianne Mechanique: what about party forming period? Dianne Mechanique: is extended? Dianne Mechanique: or over? Eugene Pomeray: i'm a way that day :( Garnet Psaltery: 2 weeks to form and 2 to campaign Dianne Mechanique: right Garnet Psaltery: when are you here? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Something like that, Garnet Sudane Erato: Eugene, you can do a write-in ballet Dianne Mechanique: i would like to see this "write-in ballet" Gwyneth Llewelyn: And Eugene, will you be here on the 25th? We'll definitely will have an extended period for the elections.... Dianne Mechanique: ;) Eugene Pomeray: behind me is the market stall Gwyneth Llewelyn: it looks good, Eugene :) Garnet Psaltery: excellent Dianne Mechanique: wht is the expo? Garnet Psaltery: I have to go in 10minutes Eugene Pomeray: 29th Ryker Tonic: of June? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah right - ok, we could do the voting period from the 25th to the 29th.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: July. Ryker Tonic: kk Garnet Psaltery: agreed Eugene Pomeray: ok :) Eugene Pomeray: thanks :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, another thing we should discuss a bit.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: How many members on the Rep. Assembly? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Last time we had 7 Gwyneth Llewelyn: But that's way too many for the current population. Eugene Pomeray: 5 Garnet Psaltery: 3 is a good number Dianne Mechanique: is it not in the constitution or somethign? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Our idea was, having around 10% of the people in office.... we had 60 members, so.... Dianne Mechanique: defined number or ratio? Gwyneth Llewelyn: No, Dianne. It's deliberately not fixed.... Dianne Mechanique: ah Gwyneth Llewelyn: Unless there was a change and I missed it, lol Sudane Erato: no :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: But I don't think so :) Eugene Pomeray: 5 is good Eugene Pomeray: ulrika sugested that Garnet Psaltery: we are only likely to hit up to 30 in next few weeks so 3 woudl eb good Ryker Tonic: 10 percent of 13 would be 1.3 Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, 5 also means that each party will need 5 members. Dianne Mechanique: unevennumbe obviously Eugene Pomeray: i am representing ulrika and aliasi for the meeting today hehe Dianne Mechanique: and three smells like a troika or somethign Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, Ryker, 1.3 members will simply not work :) :) Sudane Erato: hehe Ryker Tonic: would simplify meetings though Dianne Mechanique: i would say three or five Dianne Mechanique: but leaning to fiv Dianne Mechanique: e Sudane Erato: getting the .3 wouldn't Ryker Tonic: one memebr, plus one whos only paying attnetion a third of the time Eugene Pomeray: how about 4 Sudane Erato: yes, 5 would be good Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, should we settle at 5? I know that most meetings will only have 2-3 people around anyway :) Dianne Mechanique: what about ties? Gwyneth Llewelyn: 4 is an even number :) Ryker Tonic: need an odd number Sudane Erato: the biggest problem we have found is attrition Garnet Psaltery: ok I vot for 5 Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, Sudane. Dianne Mechanique: four and a random number generator Ryker Tonic: 5 is good Eugene Pomeray: sure 5 sounds good Gwyneth Llewelyn: ok, so 5 it is :) Sudane Erato: our first decision! Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Garnet Psaltery: yay! Dianne Mechanique: yay! Dianne Mechanique: we decided! Eugene Pomeray: yay Dianne Mechanique: :) Bond Harrington: 5 could work. It would allow for a majority-minority split in the faction Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, that would be the idea, Bond. Gwyneth Llewelyn: Last time we had 4 members for the SDF, and 3 for the MPP... Gwyneth Llewelyn: It was a close vote :) Sudane Erato: :) Ryker Tonic: I think we should have a MOFO party Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, do we need to discuss this further? Garnet Psaltery: only one question Dianne Mechanique: MOFO? Ryker Tonic: in honor of the TX governor Gwyneth Llewelyn: I can offer to set up a few informal meetings, announced on Events, to explain a bit about the proceedings... Ryker Tonic: who said to a reporter this week Ryker Tonic: adios mofo Garnet Psaltery: who needs to be notified of a new party? Dianne Mechanique: hmmm Dianne Mechanique: short for somethign dirty i guess? Ryker Tonic: yes Bond Harrington: Captain Goodhair said that? Sudane Erato: well, best to start a thread on the forum Ryker Tonic: yes Dianne Mechanique: i shall no say it Dianne Mechanique: :) Garnet Psaltery: serious question here Ryker Tonic: he thought the camera was off Dianne Mechanique: camera? Sudane Erato: a thread on the forum... Ryker Tonic: tv camera Dianne Mechanique: i am not weraing makeup Garnet Psaltery: ogh good Sudane Erato: announcing the new party Ryker Tonic: sorry to digress Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, let's go back to the meeting, please :) Dianne Mechanique: yes Garnet Psaltery: sorry it's just that I haven't go tmuch time Sudane Erato: and inviting discussion of the issues _____________________ Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Ulrika Zugzwang Magnanimous in Victory Join date: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 6,382	06-27-2005 22:14 RA Meeting on 27 June 2005 - Part 3 of 5 Eugene Pomeray: i am thinking of starting a party Gwyneth Llewelyn: So yes, we'll have some threads on the forums for specific announcements for new parties.... Sudane Erato: then, at election time.. Dianne Mechanique: great Eugene Pomeray: ok :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Eugene, you should start yours :) hehe Dianne Mechanique: process for application is written down somewher? Eugene Pomeray: ;) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm Dianne - it was a bit more informal, I think. Dianne Mechanique: ah Gwyneth Llewelyn: You just need to create a group... Gwyneth Llewelyn: And the groups that had the necessary amount of people were considered eligible. Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, yes, we had announcements for 5 or 6 parties.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or even more, I don't rememeber. Dianne Mechanique: what is necessary amount? Dianne Mechanique: five? Gwyneth Llewelyn: But only two were eligible - ie. more than 7 members at that time. Gwyneth Llewelyn: And yes. Gwyneth Llewelyn: because you could win the elections with all the votes, lol Gwyneth Llewelyn: and make sure you have enough members for that :) Sudane Erato: we'll have to be in more than one party for that to work Garnet Psaltery: I'm sorry Ihave to go. May I have transcript of rest of metting please? Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes, sure. Dianne Mechanique: aww! Garnet Psaltery: Thank you. Dianne Mechanique: bye garnet :) Garnet Psaltery: Bye bye Garnet: (via Eugene Pomeray)) Ryker Tonic: nice meeting you Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I'm thinking, Sudane.... if we have 14 members, we'll be able to have enough for 2 parties at least. Sudane Erato: by Garnet.. tahnks for coming! Bond Harrington: bye Eugene Pomeray: yes! Sudane Erato: yes, 2 parties Gwyneth Llewelyn: The SDF still has 4 members :) Dianne Mechanique: only four? Sudane Erato: but, I'm hearing more Dianne Mechanique: surprised Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe well, theoretically, yes, only 4. Sudane Erato: only 4 still active Gwyneth Llewelyn: The rest of the members haven't said if they would be owning shares in Neualtenburg on this Phase II Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, they do not count. Sudane Erato: right Sudane Erato: thats the new membership criteria Eugene Pomeray: should we go on to our next subject? Dianne Mechanique: are here any demographics on the residents such as they currently are? Eugene Pomeray: (yay lag died down) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, I think so, Eugene Gwyneth Llewelyn: Aaah I'm glad to hear it! Eugene Pomeray: :) Sudane Erato: I'll share with you what I have Dianne Gwyneth Llewelyn: Dianne, the site www.neualtenburg.org has a partial listing of all plots sold. Sudane Erato: right Dianne Mechanique: i am just cruious as to how german the residents are Dianne Mechanique: or not Dianne Mechanique: or whatever Sudane Erato: actually, its getting to be a good listing Dianne Mechanique: i have no concept of the populace here Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I think I'm actually the only half-German around, lol Ryker Tonic: i am Ryker Tonic: half Ryker Tonic: half French Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah yes - so 1 and 1/2 :) Sudane Erato: if I am, I deny it :) Dianne Mechanique: i have german ancestry Ryker Tonic: its why I am co conflicted Dianne Mechanique: but english citizen Sudane Erato: lol Dianne Mechanique: lviing in canada Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol Dianne :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Anyway, we could do a poll on the forums, if you're interested, Dianne... Dianne Mechanique: not that interested Ryker Tonic: lol Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol ok Dianne Mechanique: i just think the bavarian them Dianne Mechanique: lends a certain somthig Gwyneth Llewelyn shrugs Dianne Mechanique: and wanted to know if the residents really reflected it i gues Sudane Erato: ahh, yes Ryker Tonic: I drink beer Dianne Mechanique: hehe Ryker Tonic: does that qualify? Dianne Mechanique: i am drunk now Dianne Mechanique: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, I think it had two reasons - one was Ulrika and Kendra having been in Rothenburg, and wanting to recreate the environment.... Sudane Erato: :) Dianne Mechanique: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: And secondly, there was no other Bavarian-themed sim at that time... Eugene Pomeray: :) Dianne Mechanique: a great lack to be sure Eugene Pomeray: there still isn't Dianne Mechanique: hehe Eugene Pomeray: hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, well, there are a few buildings which are "inspired", but yes, you're right. Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok.... Eugene Pomeray: well if this is succesfull we may have another sim :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Shall we move to the Expo? Dianne Mechanique: it is a good job to my mind Dianne Mechanique: on recreating the feeling of the place Dianne Mechanique: not htat i have been thre Eugene Pomeray: in a different thme Dianne Mechanique: yes Bond Harrington: Well, I'm not sure what Ulrika had in mind, but it sure does give off that atmosphere of 1600s-1700s Bavaria, which spawned freethinking and republicianism, and the Illuminati, et al Sudane Erato: yes Dianne Mechanique: yes the details of the recreation do not ocunt really Gwyneth Llewelyn: lol yes, well, Bond :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: ok... the Expo.... Eugene Pomeray: yay Gwyneth Llewelyn: I think we should let Eugene talk a bit first, since he has proposed it... Sudane Erato: great! Gwyneth Llewelyn: The only major event we did once was the "Oktoberfest" last year. Eugene Pomeray: yes Eugene Pomeray: i was thinking of a neualtenburg expo, i was thinking art to help the MoMA Gwyneth Llewelyn: now to become a MoCA :) Eugene Pomeray: yes to help the MoCA :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: ;) Ryker Tonic: I like MoCA java Gwyneth Llewelyn: And also to attract new people to visit, and eventually to invite them to own a share as well... Sudane Erato: hehe Eugene Pomeray: so each artist gets a booth (or share a fachwerk)? Eugene Pomeray: yes Eugene Pomeray: :) Sudane Erato: yes, what will really excite people? Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, it will be an Art Expo, right, Eugene? That's your idea? Dianne Mechanique: art show? Eugene Pomeray: it can be any kind.. Ryker Tonic: real art? Eugene Pomeray: but i think art will be the best for now Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sl art? Ryker Tonic: original? Dianne Mechanique: i do life drawings Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, we could start with the Art idea. Eugene Pomeray: sl art Dianne Mechanique: pendari was going to put some in her gallery Dianne Mechanique: but we need more thatn an art dhow i tink Gwyneth Llewelyn: original makes sense. Or else, we'll have copyright issues :( Sudane Erato: neat Dianne Dianne Mechanique: for good expo Eugene Pomeray: yes Bond Harrington: ooh, yeah, original art Sudane Erato: yes, perhaps Eugene Pomeray: kendra is offering a rennaisnce fair :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh? Eugene Pomeray: rennaisance Dianne Mechanique: who is kendra? Eugene Pomeray: yes in altenburg :) Ryker Tonic: where is altenberg? Eugene Pomeray: kendra is one of the architects of the city Gwyneth Llewelyn: Kendra is currently the leader of the Guild :) Dianne Mechanique: ah Eugene Pomeray: right next to your house, ryker Gwyneth Llewelyn: And Altenberg is ... yes, lol, right Ryker Tonic: ?? Sudane Erato: the other town square Ryker Tonic: ah Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, the "Old town" square :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Near the gates. Eugene Pomeray: :) Ryker Tonic: kk Bond Harrington: BTW, has anyone heard when the HTML-on-prim stuff is going to be added? It could help the MoCA if paintings were hosted off site and presented in the musemum and on a website at the same time Gwyneth Llewelyn: Only on 1.7, Bond. Eugene Pomeray: yes hehe Sudane Erato: later in July? Dianne Mechanique: 1.7 but static only Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, end of July. Dianne Mechanique: no active web pages Gwyneth Llewelyn: Perhaps on our next* Expo :) Sudane Erato: yes! Eugene Pomeray: yes Eugene Pomeray: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: But first we have to put this one up and running :) Eugene Pomeray: so where will it be? Dianne Mechanique: i thik that if people came here for party Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes. Place. Dianne Mechanique: they would expect beer Sudane Erato: right here! Dianne Mechanique: because of the bavarian thing Gwyneth Llewelyn: Beer, we have :D Dianne Mechanique: so any expo Sudane Erato: yes Dianne Mechanique: has to be partialy octoberfest Ryker Tonic: music? Dianne Mechanique: perhaps Dianne Mechanique: or look like it Gwyneth Llewelyn: Music, I can get a DJ, but he'll do mostly German Hard Rock :) Ryker Tonic: lol Dianne Mechanique: lots of peole are older Eugene Pomeray: locations: marktplatz, empty fachwerks, MoCA, altenburg? Dianne Mechanique: you could do kraftwerk or somethign Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, location first .... Ryker Tonic: who can have a booth? Sudane Erato: location should be here Gwyneth Llewelyn: The only problem with the Marktplatz is really "lag" Sudane Erato: even tho it is said to be laggy Eugene Pomeray: would that be enough space? Dianne Mechanique: these are locations in neualtenberg? Ryker Tonic: how bout the valley? Eugene Pomeray: neualtenburg should have it's own "booth" Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, i don't think we'll have tons of people exhibiting art - from what the Montmartre group is doing, they get perhaps 10-12 people. Eugene Pomeray: that could work Sudane Erato: well, we could do in the valley Dianne Mechanique: how about other booths Dianne Mechanique: like a country fair Dianne Mechanique: kissing booth etc. Sudane Erato: but here is more a promotion of our group Dianne Mechanique: dunking booth Sudane Erato: hehe, a dunking booth Ryker Tonic: if its close Gwyneth Llewelyn: hehe well - if we're able to script those, yes, they would be cool, Dianne :) Dianne Mechanique: dunk Ulrika Dianne Mechanique: very popular Dianne Mechanique: ;) Ryker Tonic: we could invite people to the expo and then direct them to tour the city Sudane Erato: lol Eugene Pomeray: they had that at the touchstone fair :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ryker: we can always set up a in-sim teleporter. Eugene Pomeray: hehe Eugene Pomeray: yes Ryker Tonic: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: And they'll always see the Marktplatz first. Eugene Pomeray: so how about this... Ryker Tonic: yes Ryker Tonic: and less lag Gwyneth Llewelyn: I prefer an "open air" fair.... for several reasons.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: Lag, yes, that's the major one-. Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's also easier to navigate around the booths.... Eugene Pomeray: altenburg - rennaisance fair, marktplatz - art show, rathaus - neualtenburg "museum" and info Ryker Tonic: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah hmm Sudane Erato: that sounds good Dianne Mechanique: where is the museum going? Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, an Expo all around the sim, hmm. Dianne Mechanique: thats good Bond Harrington: yeah, that works Dianne Mechanique: makes peple walk around Gwyneth Llewelyn: The museum is on a hill near the Marktplatz Dianne Mechanique: mybe it could be no fly for the day Sudane Erato: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: And yes, we could do that, Dianne :) Eugene Pomeray: yes Sudane Erato: can we make it no fly? I'm not sure Gwyneth Llewelyn: Although there should be teleporters for people to navigate across the exhibits.... Dianne Mechanique: just a thought Dianne Mechanique: it has its own problem Eugene Pomeray: the roads can be no fly Dianne Mechanique: s Ryker Tonic: whats the advantage of no fly? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, Sudane, we can - just check the Church, it's no fly already :) Bond Harrington: no, I agree, we want people to take in the expo Sudane Erato: ahhh Gwyneth Llewelyn: Advantage? People need to take more time to see stuff, hehe Dianne Mechanique: the elves do no fly a lot Eugene Pomeray: yes true Bond Harrington: if they fly, then they miss out on lots of stuff Ryker Tonic: but will it frustrate them> Dianne Mechanique: and it is frustrating at first Dianne Mechanique: but yo get used to it _____________________ Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Ulrika Zugzwang Magnanimous in Victory Join date: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 6,382	06-27-2005 22:15 RA Meeting on 27 June 2005 - Part 4 of 5 Gwyneth Llewelyn: Disadvantage, of course, is that everything takes longer to visit.... Ryker Tonic: yes Ryker Tonic: if it were me Ryker Tonic: i might visit, not be able to fly and tp out Eugene Pomeray: we would have tps though Bond Harrington: I agree we probably need in-sim tps Dianne Mechanique: yes we would lkely lose some Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: But I'd say, we have a compromise, just the parts which have something to show could be no-fly, and you would be able to teleport or fly from place to place. Dianne Mechanique: depends apon their demeanor and ow hey are feelgn that day likely Ryker Tonic: and people might think this is no fly sim all the time Gwyneth Llewelyn: teleports are ok, lol Eugene Pomeray: true Ryker Tonic: people would have to read the signs Bond Harrington: let them know when thy come in Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, the signs can be used as teleporters :) Ryker Tonic: the people i have brought here to visit are often not sophisicated sl users Eugene Pomeray: hm, how about this ... Bond Harrington: Yeah, nobody reads the signs at the public sandboxes Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, good point, Bond. Yes. Dianne Mechanique: if we could make people do it Eugene Pomeray: at the end of the show, we have an art auction! : Eugene Pomeray: ) Dianne Mechanique: it would be to their adantage Dianne Mechanique: i have been here afew times Gwyneth Llewelyn: aaah I like that, Eugene! Sudane Erato: yes, me too! Dianne Mechanique: but did not "see" it until i walked the streets Dianne Mechanique: on foot Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's true, Dianne. Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: Actually, this would be something to discuss at the Rep.Assembly, if we should do the "inner city" all no-fly. Dianne Mechanique: hello markie Sudane Erato: yes, its been mentioned Markie Macdonald: hi Ryker Tonic: does that mean no baloons? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hi there Markie :) Markie Macdonald: sorry, just being nosey... u mind? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah no, Ryker the baloons work independently. Gwyneth Llewelyn: No, no, this is an open meeting, Markie :) Ryker Tonic: good Dianne Mechanique: I am ignorant Gwyneth Llewelyn: Actually, you can fly over no-fly zones :) Dianne Mechanique: can you get around a no fly with an attachment? Gwyneth Llewelyn: It's only when you land on them, you can't fly again. Gwyneth Llewelyn: And yes, Dianne, you should be able to do that. Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: I have to do some testing, but I think it's possible. Eugene Pomeray: we could have taeke off locations Eugene Pomeray: take off Dianne Mechanique: so the clever amoungst us wont suffer Gwyneth Llewelyn nods* Dianne Mechanique: to walk imean Gwyneth Llewelyn: True, Dianne, hehe Eugene Pomeray: some lots that are dedicated to "take off" Ryker Tonic: not to be contrary but there is a visitor...and they immediately are flying Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes, that's correct Ryker.... Ryker Tonic: i am open Ryker Tonic: to whatever Ryker Tonic: though Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, as said - this will be only a "temporary measure" during the Expo Gwyneth Llewelyn: And probably just for the places where there is something happening. Gwyneth Llewelyn: the rest will be "fly" as usual. Ryker Tonic: sometimes though i have the feeling that this community is not open as it could be to real noobies Dianne Mechanique: you could have atour Dianne Mechanique: with a sign Dianne Mechanique: "walk the old city" Dianne Mechanique: or somethign Dianne Mechanique: taek peole by the hand sorta Eugene Pomeray: yes Dianne Mechanique: there wuold have to be somethign worthwhile to discover though Dianne Mechanique: on the tour Eugene Pomeray: with notecards on the way Eugene Pomeray: explaining the important builds Sudane Erato: :) our whole city is worthwhile :) Dianne Mechanique: yes the church etc. Dianne Mechanique: pints of interest Dianne Mechanique: points Eugene Pomeray: yes hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes, the old plan of the Tourist Office.... a group of people willing to prepare some information :) Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: I admit I volunteered for that last year, when I had some free time - lol Eugene Pomeray: i will help :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sadly, I can't do that right now :( Sudane Erato: lol Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, no help from me for that, Eugene :( Sudane Erato: Eugene is a great tour guide! Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's true! Sudane Erato: so, do we have the info we need for the expo? Eugene Pomeray: hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I think we should nominate Eugene as the Master of the Tourism Office :) Dianne Mechanique: yay! Sudane Erato: definitely! Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, we have to pick a spot in the valley for the booths.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: As for Altenburg, Kendra will deal with it by herself, I imagine... Sudane Erato: OK Eugene Pomeray: hehe aww :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: eugene already has some booths, lol, so that's also settled :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Now, a date! Sudane Erato: good Sudane Erato: yes Dianne Mechanique: brb Gwyneth Llewelyn: (I can help out with the in-sim teleporters) Eugene Pomeray: yes Eugene Pomeray: how about hte modern ara Sudane Erato: should the date be the same as the elections? Eugene Pomeray: area Gwyneth Llewelyn: And, hmm, yes, I can get one of the best DJs around, for some German Hard Rock, at least for a few hours :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oooh that would be clever, Sudane!! Sudane Erato: be quite dramatic Eugene Pomeray: yes hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: And campaigning on the streets while people are running around with beer steins and the chicken hat - heheheh Gwyneth Llewelyn: Devious ;) Sudane Erato: hehe Sudane Erato: well, we'd be voting Eugene Pomeray: hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, it certainly would bring everybody here for the voting booth. That's true... Eugene Pomeray: we could have the boths in the mediveval sction or the modern section Sudane Erato: is campaigning allowed during voting? Eugene Pomeray: both are flat Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah. I don't remember, Sudane. Eugene Pomeray: how about right across the bridge Ryker Tonic: drinking and voting go well together Dianne Mechanique: it might be difficult to restrict it Sudane Erato: lol, yes Ryker Dianne Mechanique: nt the sam as RL Dianne Mechanique: that way Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm, so you would be able to see the city from there - that would be an idea, Eugene Sudane Erato: hmmm Sudane Erato: you'd want to watch to put booths and such on city land Eugene Pomeray: yes :) Sudane Erato: or else there might be some prim overload... Sudane Erato: with embarassing results :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm. Dianne Mechanique: :) Eugene Pomeray: yes Sudane Erato: any unsold land will do Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, yes. Eugene Pomeray: yes Dianne Mechanique: will there be dancing? Dianne Mechanique: ro club type environs?? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Unless we become suddenly very successfull in selling all the remaining land, I think we'll have enough to spare for 1-12 booths... Sudane Erato: yes :) Eugene Pomeray: but it is hilly, so woul dwe have platforms? Dianne Mechanique: nice Gwyneth Llewelyn: Dianne : yes, that was also my suggestion, I was not joking about the DJ :) Dianne Mechanique: :) Dianne Mechanique: ah Dianne Mechanique: i made that big glas ball in the pride celebration Dianne Mechanique: that the dance floor was int Dianne Mechanique: i could make ssomethign similar Sudane Erato: neat! Eugene Pomeray: we could have a live "band" plaing Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah, I missed that! Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm Eugene - what do you mean? Avatars animated, or a band using a streaming server? Eugene Pomeray: avatars animated Eugene Pomeray: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah right. Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, hmm, Dyonius Blanc (I think that's his name) has some wonderful stuff that way... Bond Harrington: playing a polka? Sudane Erato: :) Eugene Pomeray: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: I think that Dyo's animations are more appropriate for a jazz or rock band, lol Gwyneth Llewelyn: Unless Ulrika had some time for doing more animations.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: But she's having her baby :) Sudane Erato: yes, that will be just about the time Dianne Mechanique: ulrika has a baby? Sudane Erato: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes! Eugene Pomeray: should we charge artisans to put their art in the booths or make it free? Sudane Erato: early August Sudane Erato: make it free Sudane Erato: we want as many people as possible for this Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah. make it free, Eugene. But we could split the amount of the auctioned items :) Sudane Erato: wide open celebration! Eugene Pomeray: yes, that's what i wasthinkingas well Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes. Makes more sense to me. Ryker Tonic: is an auction the best bet? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, I like the idea, Ryker, although I wouldn't just rely on the auction Eugene Pomeray: yes :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Eventually, allow the artists to sell their stuff.... Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, we could apply our sales tax ;) Eugene Pomeray: hehe Gwyneth Llewelyn: Although I imagine we would scare many off.... Sudane Erato: we could, but the sales tax issue we need to discuss in RA Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes. Hmm. Ok, so, it'll be tax free :) Sudane Erato: I think better for now Dianne Mechanique: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: I agree. Eugene Pomeray: well neualtenburg items will sell well that day :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, I suppose so, Eugene. You're right. Dianne Mechanique: image is everything Dianne Mechanique: when yo uare starting out Sudane Erato: yes, exactly Dianne Mechanique: this will be many peoples first look at the place Gwyneth Llewelyn: True. Dianne Mechanique: so no tax Eugene Pomeray: we could sell "rennains costume s in altenbrug :") Sudane Erato: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ok, that's an agreement, then :) Sudane Erato: yes Dianne Mechanique: can you purchase bavarian costumes here Dianne Mechanique: like "tracht" or whatever? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Now, that's a good question, Dianne :) Sudane Erato: Eugene has many! Gwyneth Llewelyn: And dirndls :) Dianne Mechanique: yes Eugene Pomeray: no, but we can make that possible Dianne Mechanique: people like to dress up Gwyneth Llewelyn: Pendari has done some lederhosen.... Dianne Mechanique: i cheap german costumery availablecould be fun Eugene Pomeray: yes Eugene Pomeray: and extra income :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, we have to see who has those available... Dianne Mechanique: i am just throeing out ideas Gwyneth Llewelyn: I can ask Pendari about hers... Dianne Mechanique: i have n time to make them myself Bond Harrington: Does anyone sell woven pigtails or hair knots? Eugene Pomeray: vindi vindaloo Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, that's the biggest problem :( Dianne Mechanique: i am new too Dianne Mechanique: i have yet to make much of anything Dianne Mechanique: but my house Gwyneth Llewelyn: :) Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well Eugene, do you know Vindi? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Do you think she would be willing to do some dresses for us? Eugene Pomeray: we could split the price? Eugene Pomeray: that may work :) Ryker Tonic: she does good stuff Gwyneth Llewelyn: We could, yes... Gwyneth Llewelyn: And she certainly does, lol Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm Eugene Pomeray: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: We could set up a competition for German-style clothing ;) Eugene Pomeray: we could have Darkdharma help us as well Dianne Mechanique: when is expo again>? Dianne Mechanique: how long from now? Sudane Erato: 4 weeks Eugene Pomeray: iyes that is a good idea Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, sadly, the only clothes designers I know, wouldn't be very willing to "split costs".... :( Dianne Mechanique: fairly short time faem Dianne Mechanique: *frame Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I think it's enough... Gwyneth Llewelyn: Unless, of course, we expect hundreds of new items and dresses etc. Eugene Pomeray: when is that? Sudane Erato: brb Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, Eugene, Sudane suggested doing the Expo during the election days :) Eugene Pomeray: i will be away :( Eugene Pomeray: i think Gwyneth Llewelyn: ah right.... :( :( Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm _____________________ Chik-chik-chika-ahh
Ulrika Zugzwang Magnanimous in Victory Join date: 10 Jun 2004 Posts: 6,382	06-27-2005 22:15 RA Meeting on 27 June 2005 - Part 5 of 5 Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, should we postpone that on the following weekend, then? Eugene Pomeray: a week after the elections? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm right. I'd say, postpone both... Eugene Pomeray: ah the weekedn after elections Eugene Pomeray: 30 and 31 Gwyneth Llewelyn: What about having both on 30 and 31? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Elections + Expo? Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, Eugene will be around.... Sudane Erato: back... needed coffee Gwyneth Llewelyn: wb Sudane Eugene Pomeray: that shounds good Dianne Mechanique: is there anythign left on the agenda? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sudane, because Eugene is away, we're thinking of postponing both the Expo and the Elections on the next weekend.... Ryker Tonic: i have one trivial matter Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes, please, Ryker... Sudane Erato: OK great Gwyneth Llewelyn: And I also think we should have a "comittee" for organizing the Expo. Eugene Pomeray: Ryker Tonic: there is smoke shooting through my house from a device next door Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh? Ryker Tonic: yes Gwyneth Llewelyn: That's perhaps one of the chimneys? Eugene Pomeray: sorry to be away during a crucial time Gwyneth Llewelyn: Or something left by someone... Ryker Tonic: ill have to go look Sudane Erato: yes, lets examine it. Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm, I'll come with you... Bond Harrington: fireplace? Sudane Erato: if its garbage, we can delete it Gwyneth Llewelyn: yes. Sudane Erato: if its a chimney... Sudane Erato: well,, maybe we can tweak the particle gen Ryker Tonic: its lower than a chimney Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, we have to take a look Dianne Mechanique: i think i have to go Ryker Tonic: ty Dianne Mechanique: RL calling... Bond Harrington: Hmm, yeah it could be a improperly scripted fireplace. Sudane Erato: Dianne, I'll see you later Eugene Pomeray: ok, dianne thanks for coming Bond Harrington: bye Dianne Dianne Mechanique: is it okay if i leve? Gwyneth Llewelyn: Nice to have met you, Dianne Ryker Tonic: Noce meeting you Dianne Dianne Mechanique: i think we have discussed most of it Ryker Tonic: *nice Gwyneth Llewelyn: Sure, I think we can safely adjourn the meeting for today. Eugene Pomeray: bye Dianne Ryker Tonic: Eugene...did you recover your balloon? Gwyneth Llewelyn: And post it on the forums.... Dianne Mechanique: nice to meet all of you Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ahhhh right, the ballooon!! Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, let me get a copy of the transcript... Eugene Pomeray: not yethehe Formatted and colorized with transcript. _____________________ Chik-chik-chika-ahh

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