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so if he made the item he has all the textures and ablity to remake the item in question.. once again there is no reason for a copybot.. . . . End of line.

For those of you supporting the Copybot.. You either wernt here when the orignal one was rampant or your too lazy to do that extra step and back things up. 3 extra minutes of your time prevents any problems.

End of line.

so if he made the item he has all the textures and ablity to remake the item in question.. once again there is no reason for a copybot.. this product should NEVER be allowed in SL ever again.. its theft pure and simple there is no legit reason why it should ever be allowed

End of line.

That's a bit much, don't you think? Bad people do bad things with not-so-bad things all the time.

That's a bit much, don't you think? Bad people do bad things with not-so-bad things all the time.

I'm sure at some point, someone has been murdered with a toothbrush. If there were a spree of toothbrush killings, would you try to outlaw the toothbrush?

For those of you supporting the Copybot.. You either wernt here when the orignal one was rampant or your too lazy to do that extra step and back things up. 3 extra minutes of your time prevents any problems.

End of line

My wife sometimes spends hours in the bathroom with her vibrating toothbrush... you don't think she's murdering people in there do you?

For those of you supporting the Copybot.. You either wernt here when the orignal one was rampant or your too lazy to do that extra step and back things up. 3 extra minutes of your time prevents any problems.

I was here when Copybot showed up. It wasn't "running rampant", and it wasn't a "surprise". The biggest surprise was how many people who understand how SL works and what copybot really did who were overreacting to it back then, and are still overreacting to it right now.

You either wernt here when the orignal one was rampant or your too lazy to do that extra step and back things up. 3 extra minutes of your time prevents any problems.

My wife sometimes spends hours in the bathroom with her vibrating toothbrush... you don't think she's murdering people in there do you?

if me spending a day remaking my build prevents sombody else from stealing it (because I was too stupid to back it up and then back it up again) pro tip send it to an alt then send it to another alt.. if all 3 disappear then its just the fate of the gods.

Normally when I finish a build I put in the build/full perm/all textures and any other tools I made with it into a box.. send that box to 3 differnt alts. once there. I make sure to label them in their own folders. In 2+ years of building I havent had a problem with losing a build due to the bug. I know I always have a backup.

Allowing such a device into the open is just asking for your hard work to be copied by unscrupulous people who then have not only copied it but can now give out your hard work for free.. or resell it cheaper taking hard earned work from you.

For those of you supporting the Copybot.. You either wernt here when the orignal one was rampant or your too lazy to do that extra step and back things up. 3 extra minutes of your time prevents any problems.

It just seems to be a very small minority of people who let their fears run wild and end up getting others sucked into their panic. If people wanted to be realistic about the infraction of copyrights in SL, a shakedown of DJs not paying royalties or purchasing rights to rebroadcast music on a stream for profit would probably be the easiest to point out. I'm assuming since it's not about a clump of prims with a texture borrowed from Google image search being protected, it doesn't concern the OMG PIRACY types on SL.

EDIT: As someone pointed out below, my intial interpretation of this statement by Wulfric was incorrect. I somehow missed the part about his friend having made the item in question. I thought he had bought it somewhere. Therefore, my entire response was inappropriate. I'm leaving it in place, though, to preserve the continuity of the thread. /EDIT



That's absolutely NOT a legitimate reason to make an unauthorized copy. What it is is a legitimate reason to be more careful. If you break an uncopyable item you bought, due to deeding it to group, or any other reason, the ONLY legitimate solution is to buy another one. You don't circumvent the permissions system for ANY reason, just because you find it to be more convenient than paying for your own mistake.

Here's a RL equivalent, which I hope will demonstrate the point. A couple of weeks ago, I managed to break a brand new piece of electronics I had just bought, a noise gate for my guitar rig. The damage happened in such a way that I easily could have blamed it on manufacturing, and demanded a replacement under warranty. But I couldn't do that, because I KNOW I BROKE IT. The truth is it was my fault, and that's that.

Could I have gotten away with filing a false warranty claim? Absolutely. But that wouldn't make it right. I had only two real choices. I could either spend an additional US$150 on a new replacement, or I could do without the device. Either way, my original $150 is gone, and there's no getting it back.

I pay for my own mistakes. So should Wulfric's friend. You break something yourself, you buy another one or you do without. It's that simple.


Perhaps there are legitimate uses for Copybot, but the situation Wulfric described is certainly not one of them.

However, I tell ya what. You outline a way to ban copybot that 1) won't impact legitimate uses, and 2) will actually work, and I'm sure LL will be all over it. Same thing goes for music and movies, too. I GUARANTEE you the MAFIAA want an effective solution to their "woes" (outside of the needed bullet to the corporate brainpan).

There is no legitimate use for the Copybot aside from stealing creations of others. These include, but are not limited to: hair, vehicles, trees, houses, whole sims. And yes, backing up contents you have no permission to copy or transfer is illegal.

If you're not worried about copybot, your work is either free for all (which is your perogative) or is worthless. Otherwise, by now, you'd have others come into your store, and use copybot to steal textures, borrow ideas, steal whole builds and then modify them just enough so that even if you file DMCA, it will get you nowhere.

At which point, you'll be very hard pressed to try and build again. I mean, why try to do something new and creative, when you can just steal it from someone else for free with no talent or effort. And really, if you use an alt, how can someone catch you?

To all of you who use Copybot to get rich quick, I hope you get the same done to you in return. And then, one day SL will indeed become free. A place filled with free beds containing the stolen EC animations and textured in Evil and HL2 textures. Because that's all that you deserve.

So keep on 'backing up' the content you have no right to backup (after all, those permissions the creators have set are just an inconvenience, right?). Because its ok to distribute ETD hair demos for free. Because its ok to give out free Straylight trees. Because its ok to start a business using RaC skins. Its ok to steal clothing textures and mod them just enough.

Because 'your world, your imagination' means literarily that; only yours and everyone else can gtfo.

You seem to have completely ignored most of the posts that state anything other than what you say, so far in this thread. There have been many valid, and rational, points and situations brought up, in which CopyBot would not be 'illegal'.

If there were _no_ legitimate uses, it would be banned outright. It isn't. So, obviously, there are legitimate uses.

As someone else pointed out with a link to a LL blog, CB is a bannable offence. In fact, you can submit an AR with a subject of "Copybot use"

As someone else pointed out with a link to a LL blog, CB is a bannable offence. In fact, you can submit an AR with a subject of "Copybot use"

Also, from the SL wiki:

Using CopyBot or any other software to make copies of avatars, objects, or textures that you do not own is a breach of the Second Life Terms of Service and will result in being banned.

and

The CopyBot itself is not banned from SL. Just the use of the CopyBot to copy other Residents creations is a violation.

No, wow you are a hard headed one. Please post your blog text here. Legitimately using CopyBot is not a bannable offense, illegitimately using it is. Again, please post the text and link from a Linden stating that using CopyBot in any form or fashion is a bannable offense.