Copybot

Anybody know where i can get a free copybot that ISNT a virus? i do not intend to use a copybot for illegal reasons.

Dunno where you could get one.

Just for my own curiousity, why do you need one for something that you have full permissions on? Anything you don't have full perms on would be illegal to copybot..

Not completely true, I was talking to someone the other day who made something which he set so the next owner could not mod/copy then deeded the only copy he had to a group. When he realised it was the only copy he took it back from the group. only to find of course that it was now copy/no mod. Seems a legitimate reason for using a copybot.

Why don't you do like any one else, find the page via google, and PAY.

Or else go to libsl.com and learn how to figure out that stuff so you can run or compile or whatever people do to get a bot from there.

I have a few items in my inventory that have gone from FULL PERM to NO COPY, and it really pisses me off.

Copy Bot has plenty of good uses if you are not raiding stores for content theft and/or reselling the stolen content as well.

There are loads of perfectly legit reasons to use a bot, don't turn it into some ethical discussion.

Saying that, the likelihood of someone posting a link to get a working one on this forum are slender in the extreme.

I wasn't trying to - I was just curious why the OP wanted one. After 2 years in SL, I haven't found myself needing one..

EDIT: As someone pointed out below, my intial interpretation of this statement by Wulfric was incorrect. I somehow missed the part about his friend having made the item in question. I thought he had bought it somewhere. Therefore, my entire response was inappropriate. I'm leaving it in place, though, to preserve the continuity of the thread. /EDIT



That's absolutely NOT a legitimate reason to make an unauthorized copy. What it is is a legitimate reason to be more careful. If you break an uncopyable item you bought, due to deeding it to group, or any other reason, the ONLY legitimate solution is to buy another one. You don't circumvent the permissions system for ANY reason, just because you find it to be more convenient than paying for your own mistake.

Here's a RL equivalent, which I hope will demonstrate the point. A couple of weeks ago, I managed to break a brand new piece of electronics I had just bought, a noise gate for my guitar rig. The damage happened in such a way that I easily could have blamed it on manufacturing, and demanded a replacement under warranty. But I couldn't do that, because I KNOW I BROKE IT. The truth is it was my fault, and that's that.

Could I have gotten away with filing a false warranty claim? Absolutely. But that wouldn't make it right. I had only two real choices. I could either spend an additional US$150 on a new replacement, or I could do without the device. Either way, my original $150 is gone, and there's no getting it back.

I pay for my own mistakes. So should Wulfric's friend. You break something yourself, you buy another one or you do without. It's that simple.


Perhaps there are legitimate uses for Copybot, but the situation Wulfric described is certainly not one of them.

Completely agree, that's blatent copyright infringement.

I blame napster.

I blame Steve Wozniak.

He didn't buy it, he MADE it. Your analogy is nonsensical, and your outrage and condescending ethics lesson entirely unwarranted.

You post this type of reply often enough that one would think you'd be in the habit of making sure you have read and understood beforehand by now.

Whoops, I missed that part. You're right, of course. My apologies.


Nonsensical? You're kidding, right? What part in particular do you feel didn't make sense?

Look, it might have been misdirected, or even inappropriate, since my reason for mentioning it was based on an incorrect interpretation of the situation, but it certainly wasn't nonsensical. Let's keep it real, shall we?


Who said I was "outraged"? You're totally making that up. I simply explained the facts of the situation as I saw them. Any undue emotional interpretation was yours, and yours alone. You'd do well not to project your own feelings onto others.

And as for whether my "lesson", as you put it, was "condescending", well, that's your own emotional reaction as well. If you feel condescended upon just because someone expresses an opinion you disagree with, I'd encourage you to grow a thicker skin.


Congratulations. You caught me in a mistake. You must be thrilled. I can only imagine how it must have made your day to think to yourself "Whoa, Chosen misread a single word, and the evidence is indisputable! I better jump on that right away! Oh, happy day!"

Yes, I make mistakes, jut like everyone else. Why you seem to feel that that's such an amazingly big deal, I'm not sure. If the condition persists, perhaps you should consult a therapist. Obsession is a dangerous thing.

Mistakes happen and your post was a perfectly proper response given your misreading.

*walks away shaking head*


edit due to poor timing: nothing to do with your post that got in just before me, Wulfric

You broke your noise gate? You ain't touching my Strat

Just an FYI.....

We did some research on the Copybot in my RL job looking into SL vulnerabilities. And even if you ARE trying to use it for legitimate purposes please know that it only copies the prims.. it will not copy the scripts or animations stored inside.

Well there is no legitimate purpose to copying someones script so that its full perm or someones animation so that it is full perm - IF that were possible.

Thank goodness scripts are stored server side and in SL history there have only been 2 breeches.

I agree completely.. I was just replying because I believe the original poster said it was their own creation that the perms got messed up on.

Now you may think me wrong but personally, in our research we found no truly legitimate reasons for owning a copybot. It really seems only to be useful if you are trying to copy other people's designs.

and correct me if I'm wrong, and please provide reference, but was it not spelled out clearly that using copybot was against TOS?

No.

You could have at least provided reference, but no matter as I've looked it up myself seeing as how you couldn't be bothered to enlighten us.

from the SL wiki
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/CopyBot

"Using CopyBot or any other software to make copies of avatars, objects, or textures that you do not own is a breach of the Second Life Terms of Service and will result in being banned."

"The CopyBot itself is not banned from SL. Just the use of the CopyBot to copy other Residents creations is a violation."

With that said, and the OP's post, I believe he should be able to use the software if he created the asset and it was not deeded to group. It's a shame that LL has not provided a means for people to backup and restore their own creations and has left it to 3rd party vendors to come up with solutions. While the geek in all of us screams *but it's possible if you learn this or that* that doesn't help the mainstream user that makes up the majority of the SL populace. I guess creating offworld chat interfaces was more important

to Chosen....I think I have a spare DI box and compressor around if that helps

so if he made the item he has all the textures and ablity to remake the item in question.. once again there is no reason for a copybot.. this product should NEVER be allowed in SL ever again.. its theft pure and simple there is no legit reason why it should ever be allowed

End of line.

There have been quite a few cases described in the forums where people lost their backups of a product, or an asset server error lost them for them.

It's a tool. By itself, it doesn't represent "theft" (protip: it's called "copyright infringement"; "theft" is something completely different, handled by a different body of law) any more than your VCR or DVD burner represents such. It has always been in how the tool is used that makes it "wrong".

That's why I am glad the Lindens see reason and understand these things that so many other people simply do not.



Indeed.