Library: Random Profile Picture Projector

You need to read up more on your copyright laws. If the picture could be used in the same way as the original, it is protected. That's definitely true of textures, whether used in someone's profile or not. Otherwise, SL might as well not apply its permission system to textures at all.

(EDIT: If you don't believe me, try taking a camera into an art museum....)

Thanks, you made my point. Point in fact SL doesn't apply the permission system to textures, they have to be full perm to be of any use to anyone. The concept of protection for textures in SL is a joke, just as it is on the internet. The old rule of the internet applies, "If you don't want it to be copied, don't put it on the net."

Agreed. As long as the texture exists somewhere to be seen, it WILL be taken. Attempting to apply a copyright to a 2D image in a (basically) mass distribution world, is....moronic.

Nevertheless, the fact remains that the copyright exists. Even if you can't stick it to others, you should ask yourself whether you are doing the right thing in using content illegally. I'm glad LL is doing what it can to protect individual contributions, and in some cases it IS easily enforceable. I wouldn't easily file an AR on something like this myself, but: 1.) I wouldn't fault anyone who did if their content was so used, and 2.) I'm not about to engage in this kind of misuse myself. Let your own conscience be your guide, I guess. And the potential risk.

They can't enforce it at all. By the very nature of the internet, the person complaining could never, ever, prove they own that photo. Not to mention, without a copyright notice either:

A. With the original source
B. Watermarked on the photo

The image isn't protected under copyright laws.

I make this final statement.

If you place an image on the net in any form, except in cases where rw profit is lost, IE: A newspaper stealing a photo and is making money from it, you will NEVER be able to enforce a image copyright. The very notion that you can is idiotic.

Second Life is a subset of the Internet on which those assumptions may not hold completely. I tend to think of this as an advantage, at least for the moment. But I'm really not interested in a name calling flame war here. Do what you think is best, of course. Take care.

This is QUITE INcorrect.

They can subpoena Linden Lab to provide the asset creator info from their database. A Copyright notice as part of the image is NOT mandatory, either. They can have one, and probably should, but the Law does NOT require it. It was a stipulation of the Berne convention that the notice requirement be removed.



This is PURE BULLSHIT. I'd like you to try something to prove it. Put an image of Mickey Mouse on your not-for-profit website, send a link to it to the Disney legal counsel email address and see just how fast you get a DMCA takedown notice sent to you and your ISP demanding its removal. Seriously, TRY IT.

What you BELIEVE about the situation is irrelevant. There have been quite a few cases through the courts already which had nothing to do with for-profit motives. It DOES affect the ruling and the damage awards, but if you think you are free to copy anything you want because you aren't making money off of it, you're in for one big surprise.

I'll make this final statement.

If you don't know what you are talking about, you probably shouldn't be posting from an authoritative stance. As such, educate thyself before you give anyone else bad advice:

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html

Amazing how you assume everyone follows US laws. Your not alone in the world.

http://copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law

Digital renderings are not protected under UK law.



GJ assuming that the original UPLOADER created the image or has the rights to upload it in the first place. Again, without an original source with a copyright notice, you cannot prove anything about its copyright.

Venom notwithstanding, basically Talarus is right about the law and Jana is wrong. Copyright laws do protect images available on the internet in both the US and the UK.

I have no idea how Jana concluded from her reference to UK law that digital renderings are not protected under UK law. Digital renderings generally fall under the category of artistic works and there is nothing on the webpage url she posted to contradict that.

A perfect example is observing Getty Images enforcement of its copyrights in both the US and UK. It has photos that are licensed out to people who in turn can use them as part of their web pages (its their stock and trade), and if it finds out someone uses its images on the internet without its authorization, Getty Images will often go after them, and with a vengeance. In one instance, Getty Images went after a small UK unincorporated not-for-profit operating on a shoestring budget for thousands of dollars in legal fees even after it immediately removed the infringing images from its website.

UK law does have an ignorance defense, but that does not mean that the work has to bear a copyright or watermark. Having that decisively destroys an ignorance defense but on the other end of the spectrum, unless the infringer received the image from a reasonably reliable source which stated that the image was public domain, whether a reasonable person should have known that the work was not public domain (and that is the standard, not actual knowledge) becomes a question of fact to be determined in legal proceedings.

And just as Jana implied one should not assume everyone is from the US, she should not assume everyone is from the UK. She did not qualify her assertions as to copyright law (which were incorrect anyway) either until a recent follow up post. A lot of people in Second Life are from the United States and the US does not have an ignorance defense available to infringers. Further, United States federal copyright law allows for statutory damages regardless of whether there is actual loss of income by the holder or profit by the infringer. Getty Images does hammer small website owners with actions for hundreds of thousands of dollars for unauthorized use of its photos.

Of course not everyone is Getty Images and has its resources to bring that hammer down but I just wanted to point out that Jana's assertions about copyright law are inaccurate, and bring the example of Getty Images to let readers know just how much trouble they could get by relying on such assertions in the general context of unauthorized use of copyright protected images.

US Copyright Law has been made consistent with international copyright treaties for nearly two decades now. The same laws the we have (with a few notable exceptions, but still allowed under international treaty), YOU have.

I suggest you re-read your own law.

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/copyright_myths



Further:

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p03_copyright_notices



Note the lack of any words even remotely implying "requirement".

As for your "no profit" defense:



Kinda blows your "you can never enforce it" concept out of the water, eh?

Even further, something you probably didn't know, either:





INcorrect. Digital renderings are covered under



Further:

http://www.tasi.ac.uk/advice/managing/copyright.html





I made no such assumptions. In the context of this thread, it is a valid consideration to look at any ownership metadata about images in SL, since the vast majority of profile pictures ARE created within SL, and most often by the person described by the profile.

Even if it were true that someone's profile image was uploaded from an infringing copy of a third-party's work, the metadata is still important, and could also be subpoenaed by the third party who was infringed.

You say "you will never be able to enforce an image copyright", yet people have and do all the time. Most recently in the news, someone whose digital photographs were infringed by another company has won his case.

http://www.cgstock.com/essays/vilana

So, again, you are *WRONG*. Stop spreading disinformation and educate yourself.

that was a good read, thanks for the laugh



keep yelling "SL is a game" lol

Not sure what is so funny about someone WINNG a case against someone stealing his copyrighted work. I think it is great.



What's that got to do with this? I never said (let alone "yelled" "SL is a game".

Is there a point to the obtuseness?

Hi Debbie. Super tool! I am a newb and have a question. I have a object that when an avatar wears it the object getownername and location and posts to our website. This is working well for our testers for an enhancement to our slgeocaching.com travelbug game. It would be nice to also be able to post the owner of that objects profile pic up on the website. Do you know how this can be done?

Thanks again

Double post

Hi

I don't see why not, in principle. I recently worked on the development of a data/document management system which is capable of doing what I think you might have to do to accomplish it. Whether the work involved is actually worth it for a profile picture tho' is something only you can decide, as it will involve programming. Perhaps others might be able to suggest a better solution..

1) Your attachment can easily obtain the AV key and send that to your web site.

2) The web site program appends the UUID to "http://world.secondlife.com/resident/" to generate the AV's profile web site URL. EG: http://world.secondlife.com/resident/4e07f6d1-4598-4351-84fa-826ccb723ea8

3) Perform a screen capture of the image found on that site and save it. I have a neat programme callled "SnagIt8" which has the ability to save all images on any web page from an entered URL. In the data/document management system we automated this functionality.

4) Upload the saved image to your site

As I say, you'll have to decide if this method is worth the effort but hopefully others have a better answer

Of course you have to consider the fact that Linden Lab considers this method of access a violation of the Terms of Service, not to mention hotlinking pictures off other websites is also considered an evil thing to do in the internet world in general, since you are essentially stealing bandwidth from the site you're linking to.

What Darien said too...

To be honest, it would be easier and you'd likely have a quieter life if you just let your gamers submit a picture, or upload a picture to their game-profile.

Nice idea tho' Nichiren..keep having lots of them

hi, was wondering if someone could help me implement a notecard reader into this to trigger when displaying the picture. it want it to read a random "quote" from the notecard.
i'm trying to do a crystal ball that displays the picture and gives the detected avatar a fortune. the below script works fine by itself, but i can't figure out what i need to do to implement it into the picture projector. it obviously doesn't need/shouldn't use the touch event. not something i plan to sell, just something i thought would be fun to have around
/54/f9/232319/1.html

For those who are after to get profile picks, here is a little module which is similar as if there was a function like:

list llGetPicksDetails(key avatar)

The link is
http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=922662

Sorry for posting a product link here, but this is to help out who are frustrating about to get picks from the response body truncated limit 2048 bytes in llHTTPRequest().

Hope this help~

As long as this thread has popped to the top again... I'm wondering if there exists somewhere a reflector service for search.secondlife.com, inasmuch as URLs on that address--unlike world.secondlife.com--appear still blocked to LSL scripts. (Ignoring the scary implications of that fact for internal LL network load-balancing.) I'm really not eager to host such a thing myself, especially if that particular wheel has already been invented (as it seems to have been, at one point).

I really don't understand how it create the "panel"... (where the profile picture is shown)
i thought it was part of the HoverText...
please help me

The "panel" is a particle.

Well, better question is how do i get the uuid code from the specific texture i want it to display when idle?
thanks bunches,
Kallisto Shippe

assuming you have full permissions of the texture, you simply right-click it in your inventory, and click Copy UUID to clipboard. then you can paste it where you need it. otherwise, you could just drop the texture into the object contents and call it by name instead of uuid