[Source Code]Quantum Core Backdoor
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Darling Brody
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12-11-2007 05:07
From: someone "I honestly dont care *WHAT YOU DO* when you are attacked by one of my customers"
About sums it up. Why are you even posting here?
While you are summing up, take a good look at the words you quoted back to me. Especialy the ones I put into CAPITALS to make it easier for you to understand. Note I am talking about how much I don't care about what you do in *retaliation* to being attacked. What you choose to do to someone else is between you and them. Why should I care about your chosen method of retaliation? Why should my keeping out of your business "sum up" anything? I am posting here because you and your fans have been posting on my forum. Filling it with complaints/demands centured around your broken script and their desire for me to make your script work again. Darling.
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Jcool410 Wildcat
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12-11-2007 15:22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacyi think that some of the people here need to take a look at this article. From: someone A fallacy is a component of an argument that is demonstrably flawed in its logic or form, thus rendering the argument invalid in whole. In logical arguments, fallacies are either formal or informal. Because the validity of a deductive argument depends on its form, a formal fallacy is a deductive argument that has an invalid form, whereas an informal fallacy is any other invalid mode of reasoning whose flaw is not in the form of the argument.
I have seen From: someone Proof by verbosity, sometimes colloquially referred to as argumentum verbosium - a rhetorical technique that tries to persuade by overwhelming those considering an argument with such a volume of material that the argument sounds plausible, superficially appears to be well-researched, and it is so laborious to untangle and check supporting facts that the argument might be allowed to slide by unchallenged.
as well as From: someone Appeal to ridicule: a specific type of appeal to emotion where an argument is won by presenting the opponent's argument in a way that makes it appear ridiculous
You can have more purposeful debate about any subject if you can only learn to avoid the use of faulty logic. If you cannot avoid the use of faulty logic in a argument, then you end up making the entire thing flawed in its reasoning. I expect I'm going to get flamed for critisism though, wouldn't suprise me considering the very arguments you have presented. On the subject at hand the actual "backdoor" was never a backdoor, it was a exploitation of a device created pre-llGetObjectDetails that stored the input channel in the description, for who knows what reason, and allowed a target to be inputted more than once (for who knows what reason). This could have been avoided had the device been written so that it disabled the input of a target multiple times during the course of its session. This has been patched[\b] in a Quantum Core update, and will not function. It is now merely good as a excessively laggy way to know who orbited you. This is also unnecessary as TAP is collision activated, although nonphysical, therefore you could simply add a check to any existing collision based detector without the sensor.
[EDIT]woops, meant input channel not key (stored in the description)
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Void Singer
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12-11-2007 15:58
please welcome our new sponsor "Meta post LLC"
serously, if there is a way to exploit something to someones advantage, some else will prbably find it, use it, sell it, and maybe even publish it... that icludes exploiting the exploits
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Tyken Hightower
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12-11-2007 16:18
Darling made a product with code that relied on an assumption, and the assumption became invalid after the point of release. Whether she was prompt in patching the hole in an update and whether it deserved to be exploited is in the realm of opinion, which is in dire need of leaving the public discussion table, or at least this one.
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Jana Kamachi
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12-11-2007 16:23
Besides being wrong on that point, an unmodified older copy of QC will simply move to the corner if given an invalid key, according to what you yourself said, why would you have it randomly attack someone if given an invalid key?
Also, everything past darlings first flame post will be removed and the thread locked.
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Jcool410 Wildcat
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12-11-2007 22:37
Hrm, everything past her first post doesn't seem locked OR removed yet. . . I'm just going to assume thats not happenning, until it actually does, in which case it won't matter. xD
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Darling Brody
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12-12-2007 02:03
Jana is taking her bat and ball, and going home because she dosnt like loosing.
In future when we speak of charactor, I will remember that you like to rewrite history when you dont get your own way. Off you go Jana. Do your creative editing. Delete only the posts that make you look bad.
As you delete posts remember you are also deleting your last shred of credibility.
Darling.
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Jesse Barnett
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12-12-2007 03:43
From: Darling Brody Jana is taking her bat and ball, and going home because she dosnt like loosing.
In future when we speak of charactor, I will remember that you like to rewrite history when you dont get your own way. Off you go Jana. Do your creative editing. Delete only the posts that make you look bad.
As you delete posts remember you are also deleting your last shred of credibility.
Darling. Do you have any idea how many people will never buy your product now after seeing your conduct here? Instead of coming in laughing, joking, making light of the security hole and maybe even congratulating someone for pointing it out. Then you could have fixed the problem and increased your fan base. Remember you are trying to sale a product. Every single thing you do is an advertisement for that product. Is this the kind of adspace you want people to know you by? Try looking at the response from the creator to the (edit; TY Void) Force Prophecies alignment backdoor thread here in the forum.
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Void Singer
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12-12-2007 04:19
I think you meant FP  my personal hats off to those that have earned it... Credit for discovery, Credit for coding, Credit for taking the high road. sort out amongst yourselves who gets what, multiples are available.
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Shyan Graves
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12-12-2007 04:51
From: Jana Kamachi Also, everything past darlings first flame post will be removed and the thread locked. You are not seroius about that, are you? I thought this is a open forum, where you can discuss controversial and the free speach is respected. Any kind of censorship is bad. If you do not want this thread to be continued, then you are free to lock it, but do not delete anything. Shyan
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Jana Kamachi
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12-12-2007 05:19
From: someone You are not seroius about that, are you? I thought this is a open forum, where you can discuss controversial and the free speach is respected. Any kind of censorship is bad. If you do not want this thread to be continued, then you are free to lock it, but do not delete anything.
Your welcome to continue this discussion in another thread. This was a post linking to a script, and I don't see how Darling complaining about her own poor coding is on topic. I Have requested it be removed. Edit:: From: someone I thought this is a open forum, where you can discuss controversial and the free speach is respected.
I'm sorry, what fantasy world do you live in?
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Shyan Graves
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12-12-2007 05:56
From: Jana Kamachi Your welcome to continue this discussion in another thread. This was a post linking to a script, and I don't see how Darling complaining about her own poor coding is on topic. I Have requested it be removed. I do not want to continue this discussion here. That could truely be initiate by the ones that want to in onother new thread. I only could not believe that you will let it be deleted. I can understand if you let it be locked so no further comment can be posted. As I understand this forum your psting here was an invitation to everyone to discuss, quote and answer to you script. That may include complaining from the creator of the stuff you "break" (I don't thing it was breaking at all) with your script. From: Jana Kamachi I'm sorry, what fantasy world do you live in? SL  No, to be serious I think that is not a good way to handle it. For me that has something bitter in it, like "delete what I do not want to hear". Not saying that this is you intention or feeling, but it has this effect on my side and I do not see anything to odd or rude in this discuss, what deserves deletion. I think it would be better to let the comments there and let everybody judge by himself the pros and cons. Like I said before, lock it but do not delete it! But OK, maybe I live in a fantasy world about that, but I think the world would be better if it were that way! But be pushed to reallity, I will rethink my understanding of this forum. Shyan
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Darling Brody
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12-13-2007 20:12
From: someone Do you have any idea how many people will never buy your product now after seeing your conduct here? Instead of coming in laughing, joking, making light of the security hole and maybe even congratulating someone for pointing it out. Then you could have fixed the problem and increased your fan base. Lets get a few facts straight here. Fact 1) The so called "hole/hack/bug/exploit" was already disabled in the beta version. Fact 2) The beta version went to the public upgrade server 2 days after Jana posted this script, and only 4 hours after I had seen this script. So, with a 4 hour responce time, why would people not buy from me? Try getting that kind of responce time from other creators. I dont think you will find many who respond that fast. From your comments it seems you might have missed those two facts. The way some people here are complaining, you might have mistakenly though it was not fixed. Espcialy when most of this forum has been people complaining that *jana's* script isnt working because I disabled it. While it is true that some people may still be running the old version of the Quantum Core, it is also true that they can get an upgrade at any time by pressing the UPGRADE button on their HUD. (Which will deliver the latest QC to them immediatly) In fact I send out upgrades once a week with new stuff in them to encorage people to keep up to date. I will continue to immediatly disable any script made by Jana, or anyone else, that is designed to interfear with the normal operation of products I have sold. It is my right to maintain the integrity of my products for my customers. Darling. ps. Some creators might use an ALT to post the kind of things I post from my main account. I am openly honest about my identity and opinions.
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Jesse Barnett
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12-14-2007 03:37
From: Darling Brody Lets get a few facts straight here.
Completely missed the conduct part or ignored it. Look back at your posts here. Think about the image you want to project. I give up and am going back to what we do here. We help people learn scripting.
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Jana Kamachi
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12-14-2007 13:33
"ps. Some creators might use an ALT to post the kind of things I post from my main account. I am openly honest about my identity and opinions."
Care to clarify? How about your "Soolar Alter" account that attacked me with TAP-based weapon, with your name on it as the creator, yet unreleased so far as I can tell? Oh, how about when in Rausch, you, not even bothering with an alt, used the "Safe Zone TAP Killer" weapon, which just from the name is a violation of TOS?
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Haruki Watanabe
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12-14-2007 13:45
without the intention to «attack» anyone here - but I think that this thread has become wayyyyyy off topic  Bury your Tomahawks, pholks and have a peace-pipe 
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Jana Kamachi
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12-17-2007 15:06
Sorry to bump this again, but I've been notified that this is the QC default foe list. From: someone [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: **** Listing Foes **** [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Stuipid Yifu - ffaec767-7c87-4ff2-b985-d1d51f8a882b [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Whispering Hush - a33ffbac-b47b-4a79-b6ee-74c810861c60 [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Ammo Infinity - 221b6466-4a8d-4212-b8b3-5f6ea879448c [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Solar Alter - 06575d09-bde6-4d44-9a64-703fb3dbf6a1 [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: SubtleSara Oh - 5e0d208f-a8a8-4c01-8f36-ccf4a1ebff49 [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Jana Kamachi - 20c5cf82-ca1b-4fb2-ab3e-8db3368a7dbd [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: Winter Ventura - 145b5e86-fcb2-4351-877a-0dfe65e80518 [1:40] Quantum Core - v3.00.03.00.31: **** End of Foe List ****
I find it ammusing that Darling thinks having her huds automaticly attack anyone she doesn't like is "mature." Personally I believe having your weapons attack people without telling the object owner is utterly idiotic.
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Gordon Wendt
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12-17-2007 21:38
From: Jana Kamachi Sorry to bump this again, but I've been notified that this is the QC default foe list.
I find it ammusing that Darling thinks having her huds automaticly attack anyone she doesn't like is "mature."
Personally I believe having your weapons attack people without telling the object owner is utterly idiotic. I question her coding abilities if people are even able to get at that list without brute force checking against any av she might have a grudge against (which from her replies on this thread there seems to be a lot of th em). Incidentally, I totally support you violating the no naming names rule in this case so that people who are being targetted at least have a heads up that she's targetting them (no pun intended).
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Void Singer
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12-17-2007 22:58
slight confusion here, the naming names policy is about targeting specific names for the pupose of singling them out (advertising/slamming). not that there aren't a million other reasons to AR the thread(s)...
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Azurescens Herouin
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12-18-2007 05:23
rofl if anyone did that with my product, i would add him to the default enemy list too. maybe you should have asked, before you release your script. if you don't, then you have to deal with the consequences. action -> reaction. no action -> no reaction. how about you give us some backdoors to your and your friends products @ jana? seems that you are ok with exploiting features of other products for your needs, so it should be ok, if we exploit your stuff too? or are exploits only ok as long as it concerns other users scripts? then why are you surprised that darling is pissed @ you? btw Ammo Infinity should be on every enemy list, SL wide. 
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Conveyician Morigi
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Some Unsolicited Advice
12-18-2007 08:15
"SL Weapons Huds Cause Griefers - Just Like Flies Cause Garbage" Get a life People! and quit crying because you can no longer Pwn SL residents. Scripters Like Darling Brody, Azurescens Herouin, and April Heaney are considered to be the Upper Echelon of SL Scripters. No matter how hard you try, you will NEVER meet or beat the quality and Complexity of their products-->  Jana). They have our respect, because it has been earned. Can you see how and why? I doubt it. Back doors to the weapons huds? There are too many as it is , I don't think Darling will let that happen, possibly because it's considered a "Stacked Deck". Is that all why you hate her so much? and Whimpering Hush is incorrect in HIS ass-umption that QC says he is attacking it's user. It does not work that way at all. It simply notifies the QC user that a listed "Foe" (and Fake Female AV's) that are within scanner range. To Whimpering Hush The Forum Troll -> It's a Well deserved position you are in right now. I remember your attacking me without provocation in a sandbox where you had admin rights. I also remember your filthy, foul hateful mouth when I asked you WHY you attacked me. I see your still up to the same thing, a year later! This is "Sweet Justice" seeing you squirm and cry about your perceived unfair predicament. things have come "FULL CIRCLE" on you. I'm lovin it! Might I suggest an ALT? like maybe a suitable Male AV? > 
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Qie Niangao
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12-18-2007 09:03
From: Conveyician Morigi Scripters Like Darling Brody, Azurescens Herouin, and April Heaney are considered to be the Upper Echelon of SL Scripters. Well that settles that then.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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12-18-2007 10:11
From: Qie Niangao Well that settles that then. Quite; I might as well hang up my editor.
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CrystalShard Foo
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12-18-2007 11:30
From: Jana Kamachi (To anyone with a collision detector or sensor for detecting attacks on your person, the only way to fix this at the moment is to remove ALL calls to llDetectedName() since this crasher works by sticking 16kb of data into an objects name. When another script tries to read it, instant heap crash.) In the case that this is true: Dear Darling Brody - please stop crashing my Scan-Foo customers. Thanks ahead!
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Aki Linden
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12-18-2007 12:45
I'm closing this thread as it's obviously gone off topic a few times. Please review the forum guidelines. Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences or communicate – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Also, threads that are addressed to a single individual or group are inappropriate on the forums, this includes slander or "naming names" in a posts title, starting polls about a particular resident or group, etc. /invalid_link.html
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