Jack and M. Dont destroy our dreams

If I wanted to build in mainland, and deal with sexclubs suddenly appearing in the north and solid banlines to the south, I would already live on the mainland. I prefer renting from my group on the islands, where we have estate controls better suited to the task than in mainland.

LL taking setup fees then refusing to supply the product purchased makes me unwilling to buy any land from them ever again. If they refund the setup fees and start over, I'll consider that fair. But if they steal money from their customers like this, then not one more bit of land will I buy. Period. I'll be a freeloader who wakes up in the street before I'll reward LL's bait and switch tactics with my hard earned money. There's no trusting them to not jack prices higher everytime the interest rates at their Porsche dealer goes up.

Not only does LL not care as the previous people on this thread and the literally dozens of other threads on the topic have stated but the rest of the residents don't really care and all these whiny threads and the hijacking of other threads by the pissy whiny vocal minority of people effected by this serve to do is to do is piss off your fellow residents who have other things to deal with.

My point is that now that you've all resigned yourself to the fact that LL doesn't care why don't you shut up and stop whining and let it die.

It is rely nice that you call it whining wen i try to fight for a fair solution. Instad of support all you have is insult? Thank you a lot!

You'll note that I have no issue with people who are actually using the proper thread for the Q and A or making constructive threads on ideas on how to make this work just the people who keep making complaining threads and the ones that are popping around to every thread no matter what the topic and derailing it to whine about openspace and how LL screwed them over with it.

I see some people posting things that will neither; help us with the current battle, or help us grow as a community.

I think some people should really think about how their words are taken by others. There are a lot of hurt people reading these threads and poking at them will not help.

It may also be wise to note that ones behavior on these and other forums do effect your inworld reputation and, for those that care.....Sales......

this post is aimed at no one, and everyone

Alisha

yes you it read it correctly

Not that I am jumping on the "Kill the estate owner" wagon.

But, it is curious that the new Homestead price is(will be) the same as entry concierge...

I would think that these(homesteads, not OS) will be available to non full sim owners as the price changes.

And I think you're probably right. As I said elsewhere, LL will charge more to provide support to people than estate owners do.

It is very interesting as I see many posts here complaining that with the "fees" the estate owners will charge on top of the LL monthly charge many will not be able to afford a Homestead and this is all the fault of LL.


Have people not stopped for a moment and considered that maybe the estate owners should cut the extra amount they slap on top of the LL monthly charge? The fee currently is $75 yet I see that some are currently paying an extra $50 - and just what does this extra $50 actually give you as a customer? Is an extra $50 fair?

My own estate owner is absorbing the first increase - when the LL fee changes to $95. When it increases the second time to $125 they simply can't afford to asorb this and the fee I pay will increase accordingly but not anywhere close to the amounts I see quoted around here.

Some estate owners out there are charging far more "fees" for a Homestead than others - shop around. If you find one cheaper tell your estate manager this and that you are moving because the other place charges less for exactly the same thing.

$50!!! Wow. My friends who had an openspace only had a $25 markup on theirs. Crazy! Guess it does pay to shop around.

from what i have seen most estate owners take 15-30$ wich is ok for me in my case even less the to own one and pay vat

The above quoted by Ceera...is how i see things with LL and explains some of their unpopular decisions.

Too late. My dreams have already been destroyed by this change in openspace policy.

I started taking up my stuff tonight on my openpspace ready to get rid of it

Oh, and as if to rub salt in the wound SL borked as I was picking up a no-copy item and I ended up losing it

sad to hear but ask the creator most of them (me too) replace lost no copy items

I have been following these posts since the announcement, and I think that Josselin really hits an important point regarding the reason people spend money on LL's "virtual" land: because we have DREAMS of creating our own little utopias. And as a good company, LL gave us a product and tools to do just that...however, this is all being threatened now that LL has decided that those of us renting (or owning) OS sims are somehow abusing the resources extended to us and also now blaming us for creating the content and community that has made their company successful.

We still don't know what constitutes this "abuse" of OS. We still don't know about the final limitations of a Homestead. This is ridiculous. Is LL saying they don't know the network and processing demands of the products they are offering on their own equipment? That seems very farfetched. What are they waiting for? And as has been posted repeatedly, and never satisfactorily answered, why give people 3750 prims in an OS if you thought that 700 was what they should be? It seems like you just decided that your product became much more popular than you had anticipated and decided that you wanted to cash in on that popularity. This explanation of “resources” seems to be a red herring...but perhaps I am reaching this conclusion in error...I can't really say because no one at LL is giving us any real details or specs on what constitutes "abuse" of our OS sims. Communication please?

I love our island. I will be sad to have to leave it. I can't imagine leaving SL, but I know that I spend a lot more money in SL since we bought our OS island...when that goes, my spending will decrease. The dream of having your own private space in SL having been attainable kept me online and happy. Take that away, and I will have less incentive to contribute to the economy and the community.

I know you (LL) can weather our displeasure at your actions (judging by the proud 3rd quarter report recently posted) but I hope that you will find a better way to treat your existing customers and users. We create content and build communities that make it attractive for new users to set up accounts. So give us the courtesy of replying to peoples' concerns. And don’t be afraid to admit your mistakes and change your mind. The goodwill of your customers is a more valuable commodity than you apparently think. So re-think your decision and talk to use frankly about your conclusions and the possible options.

Honesty, Communication, and Courtesy.

diptheria (dip) Glas