Observation

Interesting that this forum is allowed to exist, since most of the posts are negative to Linden Labs. Mind you I have posted my negative comments here to. This forum exists because LL wants it to. If they didn't want it, it would be gone. hmmm

So should we be greatful now or what you are trying to say?

That's what's called 'anger chanelling'. Give us a corner to whine, and ignore us. Before you know, it will be over and forgotten.

Linden Labs has never had a problem with dissenting opinions. They rarely seem to consider or act upon them, but they don't have any issue with them, conceptually.

That's what I figure, they'll just ignore it back here and wait for it to (hopefully) go away soon and only act on people who hijack other threads on the forums, especially unrelated Linden discussion threads, and spam RA with new threads on the topic.

It's going to work too because while not everyone will give up it will soon be down to just a handful of hardcore people who will at that point will be fairly marginalized and when Katt finally decides to shut this down either the people who still haven't gotten over it will have no place to legitimately post and will either have to go somewhere else (groups, 3rd party forums... etc) or post threads in RA which will either die quickly on their own or will be closed as being offtopic.

This is one of Linden Lab's saving graces. They do give us a place to speak without censorship. Doesn't make the OS actions any less heinous, but for freedom of speech, LL does have the best attitudes and forums for such.

Open Spaces - 67 monthly tier price jump, still heinous and borderline criminal.

Freedom of Speech/Expression - excellent. One of the few things about LL that might keep some people around even with all the shafting going on with land prices.

Bliss

Is that REALLY true?

My thread here /354/92/294588/1.html which was active got closed for no apparent reason! I never antagonised anyone (I actually asked people to stop discussing things that were potentially damaging to SL and LL), I never insulted anyone, nor did anything inappropriate/broke the guidelines of their forum.

I'm considering contacting the forum moderators asking them to reopen it. I don't know why it would be closed besides the fact that they want to sink the thread into the mud to avoid people seeing all the places they are literally forcing into closure by raising the prices on us for openspace land.


there's another thread called "closed threads"? With people listing off threads they changed the names of, closed, or deleted altogether... Can be found here (unless the mods delete it like they have some of the others) /354/9f/296153/1.html

Is that really freedom of speech? Doesn't seem like it to me. seems a little more heavy-handed than simply forum moderation...

I have to agree with you here several friends and myself were and have been suspended from posting and several threads like the one where the Attorney generals office was discussed were removed.

LL does act and with a heavy hand when people complain, its just its not always seen. I think LL acts very heavy with things they don't want others to see or that they disagree with. Thank god we have other 3rd party forums to post in

This is not meant as a nasty post, I HATE what LL stand for now, they have cost me thousands of dollars with their attitude.

However, SL is not the only game in town, When LL do something that bad, do something about it. I have opened accounts in two other open grid platforms, my donations there are helping them to get to a point where they will be as stable as SL.

As we all know, there is no way that we could just leave SL without a home to go to, but the otheres are getting to the point where they soon will be a viable alternative.

Why be tied to only one town

you make me laugh here lol .... since when SL was ever stable???

Ah, now I never did say completely stable, merely as stable as SL ))

How unreasonable for a company to feel that their own website was not the right place for people to organise legal action against them. LL should be ashamed of themselves.

LL does allow a bit more open speech than other forums. IMVU for example, won't even let you discuss legal issues, and IMVU banned me from forums for having a link in my post for SL forum for a thread that discussed how builders/sl might be interested in developers/imvu. The ban reason was having a link to a competitor site. :rollseyes:

Is LL great with free speech? Not great, but better than other places. If I had to do a hierarchy chart of doesn't suck to suckiest, LL would not be the suckiest. However the business of bait and switch like dealings, ie Open Spaces at one set of pricing to lure people in with nonrefundable deposits, then a few months later slamming down a 67 percent increase on ongoing fees, that is extremely the suck.

There is now enough suck that I'm spending the money that I would have spent happily in SL, in completely other grids.

Bliss

Its the way it is done not whether or not its done. They penalize some people and leave others posting far worse alone. At least have some continuity in what you do as a company, something LL has big trouble with

LOL don't believe it! The majority of the posts have been deleted and a many people suspended from posting here! Fascism is alive and well - the trick of that regime is to make it seem like a democracy and then to enforce the dictatorship from within.

Thanks... my sentiments exactly!

I'm not sure why you don't believe it. Dick Turpin at least had the decency to wear a mask.

Almost all the company forums I've seen have been full of ranting and pitchfork-and-torch wielding customers. Some people like to post on forums but the majority of people only post after having experienced something that sends them into a rage.

What evil lurks in the hearts of men.... oh wait that was Lamont Cranston.

Stand and deliver.