Shadows?

Try doing a search in world for Ursula ... you may be suprised how much has allready been done

Exactly. Out of ten log ins into second life only one or two will log in for a second time, the rest leaves you and your high end toys alone. Oh, yes, it is the new web, isn´t it. IS it?

If you wanna play shooter games, go for high end. SL is not a shooter game and the vast majority ppl who try it are not interested in shadows, windlight kitsch and all this, but in anything else a VR has to offer. And if a company fails to deliver the goods which are demanded by the customer because of some silly wannabe competition with major game software developers (which is pointless, anyway), this company is misplaced in the market.

Um actually if Sl was good for shooter games then we would be using SL for it, but the fact is the the physics and graphics are so far behind modern gaming we don't, the same physics and graphics ou proclaim are too "high end" for average users to run apparently, because the average user wants and immersive realistic virtual worlt that will run on a bottom of the range laptop or 5 yo office clunker.

I bet.



Nonsense, WoW has a few million paying customers, not a bunch of onetimers and havenothings and steady fluctuation cause of steadily raised hardware demands, as Second Life still has. Maybe because the most pupular modern online game worldwide is "so far behind" that it even runs flawlessly on a 2001 word processor?

The avatar shadows, like people mentioned above, appear incomplete. But you can see them for about a minute or so at a time before they break up by going into 'appearance' and exiting it. Then you shoud see really good avatar shadows on the ground and even shadows on your avatar cast by arms or even by nearby objects. Only for a minute or so, mind!

I would dispute this. I think most people would welcome improvements to graphics. If people want cartoony low quality graphics, there's quite a number of low-end virtual worlds to choose from.

I think the best thing LL can do is to provide all these enhanced graphics features - the shadows really do make SL look a lot better. But they should continue to make all these features optional so that SL still works on older computers - in the way they do now with WindLight. LL needs to be ready for the next generations of PCs, as more and more people update.

Dear me.

No, no.

No, no, no, no.

Tut, tut.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

That's a terrific generalisation. Like everything else to do with SL, I figure just as many would be interested as those who wouldn't. The only quibble I have with Windlight is that they should have implemented the option for estate owners to set local weather and lighting with it by now.

I want shadows. I want reflective surfaces. I want rain and snow that bounces of objects. I want shooting stars and occasional thunder storms. Lightning too. I want peace and harmony between all the nations of the world ...

Yeah, then LL should wait with releasing the latest and greatest until enough of their customers have saved enough funds for buying a new high end machine - beside of paying the rediculously high priced LL fees. Inmidst of a worldwide recession.

Go RL.

What's the download URL?

Matthew

Why?

In 2008 laptop computer sales were greater than desktop sales in the US. Since most laptops simply aren't as robust as a desktop in the same price range, I think it is safe to say LL should be concentrating on development for laptops more so than the highest end gaming machines.

imo just use in windows DirectX engine than GL to DX wich really not so good for shading things and graphics but awsome for multiplat.its been 5years since I seen second life and still its not changing that much on what todays game and other community games out there ,I feel like its stuck in the past . another thing I want to see on second life is using the multi thread many ppls thesedays are using dualcore even in laptop and Desktop dont get me wrong ,only old peoples are using the pentium 4 thesedays.

Why dont you go play Geocities or LISTSERV then

...just saying

Cause i don´t meet any crazy 3D high end addicts there.Too boring.

i did this and all i got was an odd rendering of only the objects in the sim, no land or water. the textures were all blank and the odd color shimmer like sculpty maps

Wait, what colour shimmer? "Like sculpty maps" doesn't describe a shimmer, as they are static textures, with RGB values for every pixel. They don't change colour, or anything of the sort. Do you mean that your prims are coloured in static rainbow things, or flashing colours?

Anywho, sounds like your graphics card (Or system) can't handle it, whether it's because it's below the minimum specs for shadows, or because it's just not a currently supported driver, etc. I can't quite recall, but I think that particular effect is from an unsupported graphics driver.

What are your system specs?

I'd like to try this new "Pulled" version, just to see how it runs (just interested)

Does anyone have a download link?

Second Life 1.22.11 (113976) Mar 6 2009 16:05:03 (Second Life Release Candidate)
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3510348128/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3510348194/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3509535941/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3509535985/


after looking at the pictures again, i realized anything with alpha, including avatars aren't showing at all either

and 2 pics of my avatar

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3509559619/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22848506@N08/3509559487/

That version doesn't have the shadows feature. The 1.23.0 RC is the one with shadows. Lindel Lab has pulled it from distribution. 1.23.1 RC should be out real soon now.

aah ok, i didn't even notice which rc i installed lol. i didn't know the 1.23 was pulled. that was an interesting result i got though lol

1.23.1 is on the downloads page now.

http://secondlife.com/support/downloads.php

If anyone else was trying to enable shadows and instantly crashing... First turn off anti-aliasing entirely, then try enabling shadows. Also at least with Kirsten's previous shadow viewer the screen would also turn entirely black for some people, if they didn't disable anti-aliasing first.

Could someone post a picture of one of the popular crossed-prim trees with shadows and the sun near noon?

I suspect people will soon start adding an extra horizontal "shade prim" to the center of these trees.

I suspect if they really care about their landscaping they'll use better trees, not just because of the shadows.

Here you go:

Noon, 4-prim freebie cherry tree & Linden Oak for comparison



and @ 10:00AM



Taken with Kirsten's SD2-R7 because shadows and snapshots are both badly broken in the 1.23RC