Linden Lab Blog Changes to Give Residents More Choices

I was always amazed at what a good moderator Jeska was. She knew when threads had devolved too far, but didn't stifle peoples' passion.

I don't think there's enough money in all of LL to make her do it again, though.

Regards,

-Flip

There is no such thing as a totally unbiased stranger.

I to would rather have someone who actually knows what is going on as a mod.

I've seen a couple Lindens mention that stuff really needs to be added to JIRA to get noticed. Some people have a hard time navigating JIRA.

Maybe a "Is this a bug?" forum would be nice for people who want to report something but find JIRA alien and unfriendly. I'm sure there's plenty of residents around who would be happy to zip off a search or add bugs on behalf of others.

I have to ask, what is going to happen to the current ResMods? Will be stripped of their powers or will they be folded into the new system?

In general, I hope that there isn't going to be any breaking of existing links. Because that would break years of postings on both this forum and outside sites, and I'm afraid to say would likely be the last straw for me - all of those threads saying "please see this thread here to get your script" now suddenly invalidated.

(And no, it is not hard to maintain existing links, and if this third party company say that it is they are liars and frauds. I'm sure that they are not of course and will be saying no such thing.)

Well, I, for one, have to say this thread has totally changed my views.

A blog entry is posted, Robin makes a handful of sanitized replies, then nada.

Yes, this will go down smashingly.

I hope (and vote!) that they will continue on!! If they want to, anyway.

Either way, a very sincere thank you, Strife, for all you've done here. I know it's a thankless job that doesn't make you a lot of friends but I always thought you were spot on with level of moderation and always acted professionally. I really hope the new crowd is as competent as you.

what happened to the messages that use to be on the log on screen? I liked seeing them and decided what I need to follow up on,

Remove your threat that I will lose my in world assets and I MIGHT have something once again to say in the LINDEN LAB forums. Until then I will NOT. Nothing I say is worth risking the thousands of dollars I have spent over the past 5 years in Second Life; supporting Second Life; and subsequently teaching newbies how to do everything in Second Life that Linden Lab failed to do. My time and efforts are not worth losing over one ill thought comment. This is the same kick in the teeth it has always been by Linden Lab.

Worry about your company and providing a stable environment and I will leave my real feelings to my blog and the news media; where there is NO threat of retaliation and loss of income.

All Linden Lab has done in the past was to give carte blanche to the forum jerks. NO THANK YOU.

Martin Magpie
aka
Catherine Cotton

just put blog summaries back on the login page. Not having them there shuts down communications with the ordinary joe user, and there is no getting around that. Newer and smarter ways for the few to access communications wont help that.

I really dont mind how many blogs you have, maybe 15, so long as each has summary and link on the login page.


i missed the release candidate announcement. I missed a torley tute! cries

i am opposed to outsourced moderators. Its just going to be a money drain for ll, remember the outsourcers profit is almost exactly the amount you would have saved by not outsourcing and doing it well, and lack of understanding of the sl community by such moderators will surely lead to community dissent . the forums arent broken. the blog,is, we need those summaries back.

I have to say i agree with some people sentiments of a 3rd party company moderating the forums.

When i worked for Activision back in the late 90's they got several 3rd party companies in to moderate, they stuck to the TOS and forum rules to the L.E.T.T.E.R....no wavering, no bending, to the LETTER.

It got to the stage that community leaders were banned for speaking about other games (in general) or adding web links to other gaming sites (in general, like 3rd party sites). Outsourced moderators DO NOT CARE about the community they are taking care of, they are 3rd party, they dont care nor do they want to care about who is being banned for what reason.

If its gonna be 3rd party here looks like i'll be spending more time at the SLX forums...did Kingdon think of this idea? Given his track record it wouldnt surprise me...

I think the compromise situation of a forum ban could lead to an inworld ban, rather than a forum ban automatically leading to an inworld ban is a better position. The any reason or no reason TOS clause trumps all anyway.

I agree that a blog summary on the main page would be more useful, more people will be attracted to blogs if there's a central point of reference.

Bring Torley's vids back to the main blog!

Darian already set it, too little, too late.

If you had listened to your paying subscribers 18 months ago, you wouldn't have destroyed the forums for a blog, which you were hauled over the bunkers about but insisted you knew best.

You let down your customers at that stage, now is not a time to pretend you are doing something good. Try a little humbleness and acknowledge you should have listened to your customers all that time ago.

You lost me as a concierge customer and now I run a basic account because of your arrogance, yet you keep it up.

I still run a very successful business off your platform, but you get only a pittance from me compared to what you used to receive. If you had actually bothered with customer service in the past you would be in better shape and I would be happy to extol your virtues, but I and many other limber along with Linden Lab, with little enthusiasm or interest in your continued success, as new and far more responsive platforms develop.

The blog was a mess from the start and you were told it would be. But oh no, Linden lab knows best. You still don't listen to your customers and you still don't care, so why pretend you are interested in a 'better communication channel'. You don't, you never have and until you start to loose money, you never will.

I very rarely reply to your posts as they are the usual 'system dead' which is so wearisome, but your post acting as though the blog failure was something that no-one could have foreseen, is an absolute insult to all of us who were vociferous when you abandoned the forum and started your useless blog. As far as acting as though this is a new problem... Look at the early day entries and stop trying to pull the wool. The same issues existed then, as now.

Snow crash, no way, your company has crashed in the snow.

I liked the blog. I liked to find out secondlife from the secondlife website. i guess i love secondlife enough that eventually I will look at the wiki to find out where to find out about SL other than this website, but I really hope the summaries will come back.

Disabling comments forever on the blog with just a link to forums like this wouldnt be very nice but doesnt distress me near so much as losing the login page summary. I can understand wanting things to look pretty.

I really love playing second life, it is just so wonderful. Please dont make it complicated and hard to find out important stuff. Login page news was a brilliant, brilliant part of SL user friendliness. And i dont think it was only useful for people with cognative disabilities like mine, i honestly believe it was just great for everyone.

the Forums were too freeranging, too little moderation.
the Blog is a PR release, limited to good news or at least putting the best face possible on a bad situation.
maybe this will strike a happy medium.

2 good points:
the residents should be able to do this better than LL. although the Lindens should be welcome to contribute!
there should be a place for open, free ranging bitching!

I am totally opposed to the idea of third party contractor moderation.

I moderate on another large forum, and find that the community approach tends to work best. Having seen what third party moderation can do to forums, I suspect that the tumbleweed will be in here soon.

It would really be better if the posts show in reverse order, so that the newest replies show first in the blog, also I hope that this means that Jack Linden will stop closeing comments on his land posts due to what appears to be his dislike for responses to the current land situation in second life. We are commenting to try to help correct the land situation, it would be nice if he acknowledged our input about the subject, since we live here and own much land here. thank you

Ummm, Ellen?

The reason he had it comments closed on the land discussion, as he pointed it, is that he opened up an entire forum to receive feedback on the issue for quite some time. You can ready the thread here:

/346/d3/274884/1.html

Regards,

-Flip

A professional moderation team will have all the resources to identify and deal with trouble makers.

Sorry Shug, I agree on most of your comments but unfortunattely this is not a place for open and free bitching. Or more nicely said: "for open and free comments". It is simply too dangerous to vent your opinion here as you risk to loose your inworld account by saying something here that LL simply does not like.

A good deal of service providers will do the exact same thing I'm afraid - even if it means losing a business you posted using their web hosts.

It's an effective means of controlling those who cannot control themselves.