Age Verification Question (at least a couple of them)

Or perhaps I should title it Identity Verification.....

Does anyone know if one can provide the required age verification data to be "verified" but still keep the information out of one's profile?

Or in other words, can I prove I am over 18 without disclosing in my profile I am 25, 45 or 90 years old; a male/female, or I live in somewhere USA?

I just prefer providing such personal information to ppl I know and trust.

Thanks

As I understand it, all that LL will keep and be able to display at this time is a Yes/No flag for "Is verified as being 18 or older?". So no, people won't see that you're really 29, or 50, or male, or from Brooklyn...

Not yet, anyway.

They say that eventually the system might allow you to choose other info that you are willing to disclose. But as being tested by the Concierge clients right now, it's just a single yes/no flag for "18 or over?".

Many thanks. So perhaps, eventaully, no different from now in the sense that one can disclose such information in the narrative of the profile (say under RL tab). The only difference I guess is that such information would be 'verified".

I'm not sure what a Concierge client is.

I am one, but I don't know why! *grin*

You can include your RL details in your profile if you want to. You do not have to though.

And whose to say its true. That's why I get a laugh when I see people asking how old someone is and such.

I enjoy the company the av and assume the person behind it may be totally different. Sorry, I digress...

Sorry, I meant that via the identity verification system you will be able to provide id verified information if you choose to. Not just a few words written by you, this is linked to id verification.

I am STILL not giving my personal details to ANY third party company.
When this was first mooted the overwhelming response was that the comunity would rather cut off their arms than provide this kind of information. That LL have gone quite about this is a clear indication that they are backtracking on the proposal, a smart move, although, a clear statment scraping the whole idea whould be a braver way to go. And would end this debate once and for all.

Can someone tell me where I go to do this? I have looked and can't find any links.

Some interesting news. You don't have to give any personal information.

Read here: http://www.gridgrind.com/?p=179

It would seem the system only pretends to verify the information, but will accept info that is entirely made up, or belonging to dead people.

Way to go, LL. The children are a lot safer now

/me verifies as

Hilda Whitcher
SSN: 078-05-1120

What it interesting to me is to able to be "verified" this 3rd party company must already HAVE your information or be able to get it in order to verify you. If this is the case then all this bitching about giving info away is a waste of breath because they already have it.

Now if they do not have your information and can't get it then what are they verifying?

I have a question.

I'm reassured that all I have to do is to provide "over 18" verification, and no other information needs to be provided.

HOWEVER. Surely this verification can only happen on the assumption that I registered for SL under my real name in the first place?

But, as someone who lives in perpetual fear and dread of the 21st Century's most growing crime - identity theft - I NEVER give my real details when registering online. This provides me with all the protection I need and gives me peace of mind.

How, then, will Integrity be able to verify my age if I never gave my real name in the first place?

They'll aim their mind scanning rays at you..or perhaps send over a Vulcan to mind meld.

Very good question because I'm awaiting answers from the UK Passport office and driving licence authority as to how in hell can Integrity Aristotle get hold of my details to verify them.

ok i can't say that article is true or not, what i can tell you is that it did NOT take my current address but took my previous one as i moved within the last 18 months. so to me that just shows that its accurate.

If you want to know what information is actually REQUIRED to verify with Integrity...

http://www.aristotle.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=113&Itemid=145

Use the map to find your own country - mouse over it and you should be able to see the requirements. In the UK, for instance, Integrity only require your name, address and date of birth, all of which are publicly available information. The same goes for the U.S.A. In many European countries a phone number is also required.

Apparently there is no need for SSNs, DL#'s, Passport numbers to verify. I'm guessing because Integrity have NO information outside what is publicly/commercially available.

Of course, since this information is freely available, it means that anyone can verify as anyone, making the whole process totally worthless.

Hmmm, I wonder if George Bush's name, address and DOB are on the public record...

Max

D:

Required:
First and Last name
Postal Code
Date of Birth

This is so ungodly WRONG!
Most 12 year olds know that much information about their GRANDparents.

I'm totally registering as Hilda Whitcher (or Elvis or Nixon, found their SSNs too, and their DoB should be easy to find). Either make a logical guess on the zip (Hilda: New York) or just keep hitting it up until it lets you through.

I want to be verified that I look exactly like my Avatar!

Me too, but then, I look (something) like this in SL:
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/~mmj29/temp/silvermoon_conbadge_sm.jpg

Ciaran - Australia, like the UK doesn't require passport or drivers licence for Aristotle ID verification - just first name, last name, postcode and DOB so they probably only have access to the electoral rolls - which are public documents. I guess the bigger question is why they don't go for the lowest common denominator and have those minimum requirements for all countries and the rest optional. It does, for example seem strange that Canada requires a phone number, whereas the US, Europe and Oceania do not. The other fields are just 'suggested' so you can for the most part choose your level of disclosure.

It is unlikely they even have full access to those. In the UK you can opt out of the edited electoral register, and only appear in the full register for which (since 2002 anyway) "copies can only be supplied for certain purposes, such as elections and law enforcement. Credit reference agencies are also allowed to use the full register, but only to check your name and address if you are applying for credit, and to help stop 'money laundering'"

(see http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/your-vote/access.cfm)

Matthew

Which allows anyone to register as just about anyone they know.

What 12 year old DOESN'T know his parent's date of birth?

That will not be LL's problem though, so the fact that people were pointing out how ridiculous this system was even when we thought we'd have to provide passport numbers, LL are absolving themselves of responsibility.

I'd still like to know what Integrity Aristotle are getting out of this.

Im 30 and I dont know my parents' DOB. Hell, my mom's been lying about her age for as long as I can remember. I'd have to drug her to get to her purse which is always less than 2 feet from her, and THEN spend 3 hours digging through her 20lb wallet to find her ID.

And as far as I know... her DoB isnt on my birth record, though im sure I could check if I really needed to.

I do know her SS# though.



I do know that my children know my DoB, and could very easily access my SS# as well as my husbands - as well as insurance information, bank account information, credit card numbers, etc. Sure, this may be irresponsible to some, but as far as Im concerned even as children these things could very well come in handy at some point in time if by chance there was ever an accident or emergency in which someone (other than myself or my husband) needed to have the information readily available... therefore, everything is kept together and they're very aware of where it is.