How much further will favoritism at LL go?
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MarmelaGramela Doesburg
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06-14-2009 07:18
I'm really pleased to see that Azure islands has the honor of being officially advertised in the LL login screen now. Maybe we stupid normals should just bow to this and return our islands to make room for more Linden-powered players? While I already expected favoritism in the selection for the so called land-expo, this is like a slap in the face to the rest of the landowners and seems to prove me right. I am so disgusted, I can't phrase it right.
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Lindal Kidd
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06-15-2009 14:35
I sure won't ever rent from Azure Islands. I don't know if it's owned by a Linden alt or not, but the blatant favoritism combined with their overpriced offerings make me sick.
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Jesse Barnett
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06-15-2009 15:43
From: Lindal Kidd I sure won't ever rent from Azure Islands. I don't know if it's owned by a Linden alt or not, but the blatant favoritism combined with their overpriced offerings make me sick. If favoritism is happening in this instance, then it is coming from the lab. The blame should be laid on the source, not the receiver. Adam Zaius probably is fic, not saying he isn't, but I have seen nothing to state that he mistreats his tenants. And he has done more then his fair share giving back to the community at large, ever heard of Opensim? just saying...........................................................
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06-15-2009 16:06
You're all idiots.
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06-15-2009 16:26
From: Jesse Barnett If favoritism is happening in this instance, then it is coming from the lab. The blame should be laid on the source, not the receiver. Agreed, I'm not sure why the estate in question is getting stick, LL have said they won't be the only estate to get such promotion and in July it will move to smaller estates. This is a Linden Lab decision, point your fingers in the correct direction.
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06-15-2009 17:07
wut
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Sindy Tsure
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06-15-2009 17:12
No offense to Desmond, one of the cooler people around, at all but if the MOTD had been for Caledon, would the reaction here have been the same?
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06-15-2009 17:14
From: Jesse Barnett The blame should be laid on the source, not the receiver. Really?
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Jesse Barnett
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06-15-2009 17:17
From: Lias Leandros Really? Yes really, just as in any case of favoritism. No one can be blamed for homesteads, or the new adult continent, or the new stupid forum or any other idiotic decision that LL has made EXCEPT for LL.
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06-15-2009 17:30
It is a surprise that pay more means get more? What planet are you from?
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FetedInner Core
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06-15-2009 17:45
fwiw i don't think this has anything to do with being 'in' with the Lindens and everything to do with LL's immediate short term motives in regards to land (and the best way to foist customer service off on a middleman rather than dealing with the increased load).
Any other estate owner could have been chosen for this experiment - it's just unfortunate Azure was the first.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-15-2009 17:48
From: FetedInner Core fwiw i don't think this has anything to do with being 'in' with the Lindens and everything to do with LL's immediate short term motives in regards to land (and the best way to foist customer service off on a middleman rather than dealing with the increased load).
Any other estate owner could have been chosen for this experiment - it's just unfortunate Azure was the first. Perhaps they wanted to go from A to Z right off.
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Aki Shichiroji
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06-15-2009 18:17
Ah well. In that case, poor Anshe for not making the cut. I will weep tears of sorrow. 
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06-15-2009 18:18
From: Aki Shichiroji Ah well. In that case, poor Anshe for not making the cut. I will weep tears of sorrow.  Perhaps she should have chosen her bedmate more carefully.
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Nina Stepford
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06-16-2009 00:36
qualify that. if it is not favourtism, what is it? From: Siggy Romulus You're all idiots.
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06-16-2009 02:37
From: Nina Stepford qualify that. if it is not favourtism, what is it? So Siggy pulling an idiotic stunt for which he was called out on in SLU for, that is the reason that LL did this? The group against group infighting is the idiotic part. We form cliques, it is in our human nature that dates back to the time that it was necessary for human survival. I am part of a clique myself and this episode really has me thinking. Recently had someone come into Scripting Tips who was generally being a butthead. We pretty much well universally jumped him for it and in hindsight it was the wrong thing to do and not justifiable. The word "they" is the single most dangerous word in our vocabulary.
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Nina Stepford
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06-16-2009 05:05
i am turning over your words in my mind, seeing if perhaps changing the order can make sense of them. i have no idea what you are on about. 
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Lindal Kidd
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06-16-2009 07:30
Sure, I blame LL. But Azure Islands deserves a share of the ire, too. I haven't heard of them telling LL, "hey, we didn't ask to be promoted like that, take us off." If they're willing to accept the exposure, they have to take the bad with the good.
LL has yet to learn that they are SERVICE PROVIDERS. As such, they should provide a service, not promote certain customers, not compete with other customers. Mainland competes with estates. Bay City and Nautilus compete with themed builds by Residents.
Above all, they should be CONSISTENT. Favoritism like the Showplace and the MOTD ads is INconsistent. Changes in policy like the Homestead seesaw and the Adult Content mess is INconsistent.
LL, you provide a service. People depend on that service, some of them for their livelihood. STOP WAFFLING, dammit.
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Brenda Connolly
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06-16-2009 08:10
From: Lindal Kidd Sure, I blame LL. But Azure Islands deserves a share of the ire, too. I haven't heard of them telling LL, "hey, we didn't ask to be promoted like that, take us off."
Bullshit. Would you? I wouldn't. If you had a RL business and the Government offered you a tax break or other incentive, would you say "No Thanks"? LL is supposedly going to feature ALL Estates that total 250+ sims to start. I don't know how many that is, but are all of them going to be on your shit list as well? This is evidently the beginning of a program that will include ALL Estates, regardless of size. LL chose the largest Estates first. These people pay a lot of money to LL in tier, so I don't see anything wrong with that. Premium Members are justifiably asking for more for their money, I see this as no different. Granted LL is likely to screw this up as usual, but the hysteria and indignation this is causing is laughable. RL's entitlement mentality has firmly been entenched in SL, it seems.
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06-16-2009 08:39
From: Nina Stepford i am turning over your words in my mind, seeing if perhaps changing the order can make sense of them. i have no idea what you are on about.  Sorry Nina  Misread intent.
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06-16-2009 09:09
From: Brenda Connolly Bullshit.
Would you? I wouldn't. If you had a RL business and the Government offered you a tax break or other incentive, would you say "No Thanks"? LL is supposedly going to feature ALL Estates that total 250+ sims to start. I don't know how many that is, but are all of them going to be on your shit list as well?
This is evidently the beginning of a program that will include ALL Estates, regardless of size. LL chose the largest Estates first. These people pay a lot of money to LL in tier, so I don't see anything wrong with that. Premium Members are justifiably asking for more for their money, I see this as no different.
Granted LL is likely to screw this up as usual, but the hysteria and indignation this is causing is laughable. RL's entitlement mentality has firmly been entenched in SL, it seems. This. I'm a bit baffled by the outcry over this one. Why shouldn't LL give something back to those who (a) have stuck with it the longest and (b) have supplied its larger sources of revenues? Businesses do this all the time. Rewards and special treatment for your largest or most loyal customers. It's a no-brainer.
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06-16-2009 09:31
From: Madhu Maruti This.
I'm a bit baffled by the outcry over this one. Why shouldn't LL give something back to those who (a) have stuck with it the longest and (b) have supplied its larger sources of revenues?
Businesses do this all the time. Rewards and special treatment for your largest or most loyal customers. It's a no-brainer. Reward is one thing. No one is arguing against a business giving it's VIP customers extra services. But LL runs a world with an economy in which their customers compete against each other. To promote one specific business above others, to actually manipulate the marketplace to such an extent, goes far beyond special treatment, it actually damages the core service they offer to all their customers.
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06-16-2009 09:33
From: Madhu Maruti This.
I'm a bit baffled by the outcry over this one. Why shouldn't LL give something back to those who (a) have stuck with it the longest and (b) have supplied its larger sources of revenues?
Businesses do this all the time. Rewards and special treatment for your largest or most loyal customers. It's a no-brainer. For some of a particular mindset, "No Brainer" seems to be a way of life. Anyway, you can pack up your torches and pitchforks from outside of Azure, now. Today Anshe is the lucky target.
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06-16-2009 09:35
From: Sin Toshi Reward is one thing. No one is arguing against a business giving it's VIP customers extra services. But LL runs a world with an economy in which their customers compete against each other. To promote one specific business above others, to actually manipulate the marketplace to such an extent, goes far beyond special treatment, it actually damages the core service they offer to all their customers. They are not promoting one above another in this case.They set a criteria, and everyone who is in that group will be featured.
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06-16-2009 09:43
From: Lindal Kidd I don't know if it's owned by a Linden alt or not  
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