FirstLook Windlight v1.18.5.73655

It looks wonderful to me so far. The only problem I have encountered seems to be that the way Draw Distance works now it appears to only have half the range. What I used to see at 256m I now have to set to 512m to see.

looks great. crashed after about 3hrs(3gigs ram).
and yes draw distance seems diminished.

yah, see if at nighttime you experience a lot of 'alpha echoes' in semi-transparent materials... most of my 'skylab' is like this and picks it up pretty well...

also yah, i agree some sort of culling process (set to 1023 instead of 1024?? or 0-inclusive? is cycling in-screen textures and contributing to my 'alpha-echo' effect... maybe not everyone's seeing that yet.

p.s. only one 'fullbright' object of mine seems to be appearing 'off' (not complete 'off', just meaning 'not looking quite how i'd expect a full-bright object to look')... but i dunno, for now i can live with it and see how it rides out... the 'alpha echoes' though seems serious (if only 'seriously disconcerting

I am getting 50% less fps wth UHQ and when i let it to low i jump back to normal fps. This bad, does this mean you have to have a quad core running these settings. Gesh!


Second Life 1.18.5 (73655) Nov 13 2007 12:57:54 (Second Life WindLight)

CPU: AMD (Unknown model) (3015 MHz) 6000+ 125 watt
Memory: 3327 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 (Build 2600) ( japanese )
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce 7900 GTX/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW! 512MB
OpenGL Version: 2.1.1

Man this is really nice looking and whatnot, but..I cant stop crashing..I cant even open the client up anymore without it crashing..

My frame rates are probably 20% higher with Windlight, although I've not been anywhere with more than a couple of people. Looks amazing too, just need to get those glitches fixed. But then, that's the whole point of a First Look - it's not supposed to be ready for release.

ok your using Linux. which is a totally did animal in OS systems can`t compare dogs and cats Please read the whole message
Before...........70 fps , after with Windlight LOW setting, 70 FPS with Ultra Quility 33 fps<------ LOOK AT.............. THIS IS WHAT I REFERING TOO........


As you can see I said UHQ OR ULTRA HIGH QUILITY I am setting at when i have a drop in FPS........ When I am at LOW QUILTY my FPS are normal BUT ( and read this slowly) When I am at ULTRA HIGH QUILITY setting I have 50% drop in FPS.......clear now?

Been beta test First look from the very first beta issued so DOh everyone knows its what its for

Well, thanks for being so patronising. I'm on Ultra. So maybe I should YELL a little and TALK DOWN at you, too? ON ULTRA QUALITY MY FRAME RATES ARE 20% HIGHER. Clear now?

I wasn't saying you didn't know what you were talking about (although...), I was merely stating what my experience was with the new Windlight, exactly like you were.

No, what are your frame rates? You very fuzzy in your spec i had to read them off another thread to see what yu running........ please reread the last posting.......

No, what are your frame rates? You very fuzzy in your spec i had to read them off another thread to see what yu running........ please reread the last posting.......

For the love of...

/me backs away from the thread, smiling and nodding and maintaining eye contact.

Originally Posted by Usagi Musashi
ok your using Linux. which is a totally did animal in OS systems can`t compare dogs and cats Please read the whole message
Before...........70 fps , after with Windlight LOW setting, 70 FPS with Ultra Quility 33 fps<------ LOOK AT.............. THIS IS WHAT I REFERING TOO........


As you can see I said UHQ OR ULTRA HIGH QUILITY I am setting at when i have a drop in FPS........ When I am at LOW QUILTY my FPS are normal BUT ( and read this slowly) When I am at ULTRA HIGH QUILITY setting I have 50% drop in FPS.......clear now?

I'll say it once more. When I put it on the Ultra setting, I see higher frame rates than I saw with the standard viewer with all settings nearly or fully maxed out. That is all.

Yes, I'm on Linux, but I'm comparing it to Linux. On the same machine. And to be honest, I no longer care what your frame rates are. Ok?

Clear enough?

Mine



What is your FPS RATE? Please post them....... You didnt even post your specs of your computer? Or even the OS. Without nobody understans or can compare

This is the first time that I've had a serious look at Windlight. The day lighting makes things appear awkward but for the night hours, it's perfect.

You can always tweak the advanced sky settings if the default ones don't suite your tastes.

Go to World> Environmental Editor> Advanced Sky.

I understood. Stephen wasn't comparing his machine with other machines, he was comparing the performance of the two viewers on the same machine, his machine.

I'm getting a smoother performance with Windlight (ultra), too.

I absolutely love this, but it now creates another problem, albeit a nice problem: Builds and textures look different in each viewer, so do you make your work look as great as possible for the regular viewer, or Windlight? Doing either results in a compromised look in the other viewer. Decisions, decisions....

I think Usagi wants to know what that machine happens to be; how much RAM, what graphics card etc? Translation; "Post the specs please".
And precisely what those frame-rates were; after all, a 20% increase in frame-rate could be 6 fps instead of 5 =P

I was just pointing out that to suggest that no one can understand Stephen's post is not correct. I understand Usagi wanted more information to make more detailed comparisons, and perhaps the confusion stems from Stephen quoting Usagi in his reply, but he was making a simple understandable qualitative comparison of performance between the two viewers on his machine.

If it's of any use to Usagi, or anyone else, I'll post my details:

2 x 7800GTX, 680iLTSLI (not using SLI config - have been running SL on one card), 4GB RAM, Core 2 Q6600, Vista.

For both viewers I have all graphics options maxed out, 512m2 draw distance, and in a stand-alone sim with no avatars present. Although I do get a higher recorded FPS in the regular viewer (Regular = 30-50 FPS; Windlight = 20-40FPS), the 'experience' seems smoother with Windlight.

Yesterday I must have crashed 10 or more times throughout the day, and I suspect it's a Vista compatibility issue - I very seldom crashed with XP. I'm going to use Windlight all day today to do some building to see if stability is any different. I'll let you know how I get on.

Both of you thank you for adding your views! I really mean this it helped....... Problem is that person first post to me


well of course it is silly? thats why we at doing this testing to start with. Is my point. His assumption was more general speaking.

Another thing to report. A friend of mine has an ATI X1950 card. When she has the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) panel applet running, her SL looks like it's running in 256 color mode, and her framerates even on the lowest settings are miserable. When she disables CCC and then runs SL, it works pefectly, but she says she's not able to access her antialiasing settings along with the other advanced card settings.

Avatar faces have a very dark, overly contrasted or deeply shadowed look, unless they are directly facing a light source. A friend also complained about the same problem.

Water looks fantastic!

also, how do I view frame rates?

'View' (to the right of 'Edit' at the top) > 'Statistics Bar'

Much of it looks really nice, but my trees look awful. Actually any prim that not facing the sun, or god forbid is edge on to the sun is almost black.. The "direct lighting" from the sun is a bit too much.. It looks nice on a building at sunrise or sunset, but Avatars and plants look really strange.. Perhaps there are settings I can work to improve this. But the defaults have this problem.. I will play with them a bit when I get home tonight.

The water and sunrise/sunset are very pretty, but the prim lighting issues ruin it for me.

So....purrrrrty