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LittleMe Jewell
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08-04-2009 13:17
From: Melita Magic Oh but when you get into 75 to 125 ('real dollars') and up per alt per month...Does stipend still balance it out?
Wouldn't it be better to own land on one av for 195 USD, instead of 3 or 4 at 125 each?
Not much of a business head (me). sigh.
I wish there were business classes in SL, for SL. If my memory serves correctly from back when I did the calcs, the adding of premiums to offset the tier costs are only beneficial up to 1/4 sim. For 1/4 sim done with one account would cost $972 per year ($75 * 12 mths) plus the $72 premium fee. OR Deed the 1/4 sim to a group and since it is a group, you only need 14,877 tier. It would take 30 premium alts donating their 512 to the group to cover that. If you pay the premium quarterly and assume an exchange rate of L$265 per U$1 for the stipends, then the net cost of each alt is only $31.14 per month and that comes out to $934.20 per year. Since that savings is only about $30 per year, it might not really be worth the hassle of 30 alts, but for smaller amounts of land, and therefore smaller number of alts, it can be worth it.
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Darion Rasmuson
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08-04-2009 13:25
From: LittleMe Jewell If it is all deeded to the group, then your landowning alt does not really own it anymore -- the group does. If the total land the group owns is 3040 sqm, then the group needs 2764 sqm of tier (2764 + 276 (10 % bonus) = 3040).
So if your contribution is 1834 (this is tier contribution), then someone else (amybe the alt) must be donating the other 930 of tier into the group. The total land the group owns is about 7000. The 3040 are parcels I bought on the alt and then deeded to the group. Everything I read when getting the land is long forgotten.. -_- Finally found something about group-owned land in the knowledge base, so will have to see what I can figure out from there... |
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-04-2009 15:08
From: Darion Rasmuson The total land the group owns is about 7000. The 3040 are parcels I bought on the alt and then deeded to the group. Everything I read when getting the land is long forgotten.. -_-
Finally found something about group-owned land in the knowledge base, so will have to see what I can figure out from there... Once you deed it to the group, the group is responsible for the tier, so somehow the group has to have at least 6364 tier donated to it in total (since it is a group it will get a bonus of 10% of the total tier donated). If your contribution is 1834, then someone or multiple someones are donating the rest to the group. You can see the donations on the page that lists the Members and Roles -- shows each person's donations to the group.
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Chris Norse
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08-04-2009 15:46
Just a quick sneak in, PARTY AT LINDAL'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Claire is bringing the beer.
Rio is bringing the bewbies.
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Darion Rasmuson
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08-04-2009 15:58
From: LittleMe Jewell Once you deed it to the group, the group is responsible for the tier, so somehow the group has to have at least 6364 tier donated to it in total (since it is a group it will get a bonus of 10% of the total tier donated). If your contribution is 1834, then someone or multiple someones are donating the rest to the group. You can see the donations on the page that lists the Members and Roles -- shows each person's donations to the group. Hehe yes, my partner has deeded the rest, so that was not what puzzled me. It was the difference in what land i actually deeded to the group compared to the land contribution showing in the group info. I would have imagined that number to be higher. I'm guessing the amount shown maybe matches what was *required* for the group..? Gah, this is all giving me a headache  |
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Elora Lunasea
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08-04-2009 19:28
Lindal caved in and rebought land?
You just convinced me NOT to sell mine (I was toying with it, since i haven't been inworld much lately).
Congrats! Welcome home!
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Briana Dawson
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08-04-2009 19:55
I see what you did there Lindal.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-05-2009 03:24
Is that an admission of hypocrisy, Lindal . . .
Pep ( . . . or just fickleness?)
PS Will *anybody* take what you say seriously from now on, do you think?
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Avion Raymaker
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08-05-2009 11:23
From: Lindal Kidd Thank you, Nika! I'm not sure yet. Probably something contemporary, a Pacific Northwest seaside sort of thing. The current build there is by Avion Raymaker, and I'm a bit reluctant to just erase it right off. He does awfully nice work, even though it doesn't quite meet our needs.
By the way, the Greek village at Lebettu is no more, but CX and Allegria and their partner Spar have built a really nice Louisiana Bayou build, complete with swamp and shotgun shacks. It's a bit like the changes at Ray's Liome...different owners, different vision, but both great.
(As for who is "we", that would be me, my wife Cindi, our senior wife Evvie, and our sisters Sophie and Leo. Plus my growing army of alts.) Thanks, Lindal -- that little beach house on your plot was actually built by someone else; the hotel complex next door is all my build. I'm going to sell that hotel and the prim-land all together as a business -- It makes decent money when promoted and attended-to properly. So, best case, the new buyer will want to buy the hotel business as-is and won't even change your neighborhood. I look forward to seeing how you fix up your plot. --Avion |
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Miles Beck
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08-05-2009 13:11
From: Lindal Kidd By the way, the Greek village at Lebettu is no more. I was wondering about that. It was gorgeous, Lindal! |
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Lindal Kidd
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08-07-2009 08:03
From: Pserendipity Daniels Is that an admission of hypocrisy, Lindal . . .
Pep ( . . . or just fickleness?)
PS Will *anybody* take what you say seriously from now on, do you think? No, it's an admission of defeat. Hi, I'm Lindal (Hi, Lindal!) and I'm a primaholic. But I'll tell you what...I'll add you to the parcel's ban list, and then you can just pretend I don't own land.
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Eli Schlegal
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08-07-2009 08:06
From: Lindal Kidd
But I'll tell you what...I'll add you to the parcel's ban list, and then you can just pretend I don't own land.
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-07-2009 08:06
From: Lindal Kidd No, it's an admission of defeat. Hi, I'm Lindal (Hi, Lindal!) and I'm a primaholic.
But I'll tell you what...I'll add you to the parcel's ban list, and then you can just pretend I don't own land. A rather pointless gesture.  Pep (rather like refusing to consider sharing your bottle of wine with a teetotaller.  ) PS My previous PS obviously applies. 
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Seven Okelli
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08-07-2009 08:08
From: Pserendipity Daniels My previous BS obviously applies. Fixed it for you! .
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-07-2009 08:10
From: Seven Okelli Fixed it for you!
. On the contrary, the extensive BS *all* belonged to Lindal . . . Pep ( . . . as she has admitted. I have cut straight to the nitty-gritty of her *absolute* loss of credibility.) ETA 'absolute' as suggested by Seven below.
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08-07-2009 08:13
How absolute the knave is!
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Lindal Kidd
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08-07-2009 10:16
/me puts Pep on Double Strength Ignore.
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Clarissa Lowell
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08-07-2009 10:24
From: Pserendipity Daniels Is that an admission of hypocrisy, Lindal . . .
Pep ( . . . or just fickleness?)
PS Will *anybody* take what you say seriously from now on, do you think? Of course. I will. After all, my flamingo was released. It's the happy endings that count! |
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Nimue Jewell
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08-07-2009 10:26
I'm a little late to the thread, but sincere congratulations on you new land, Lindal, and your happy SL!
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Pserendipity Daniels
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08-07-2009 12:04
From: Lindal Kidd /me puts Pep on Double Strength Ignore. Denial is just a river in Egypt eh, Lindal? Pep ("The truth doesn't hurt if you can't hear it. Lalalalalalalalalala . . . ", did you say?)
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Maureen Boccaccio
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08-07-2009 12:12
From: Lindal Kidd For months now, I've ranted and railed at LL for their insanely stupid Adult Content policies.
I put my money where my mouth is. I downgraded to Basic, sold my land, tiered down to zero.
But I'm here to confess, I couldn't sustain it. I missed having land of my own, and a lot of prims to toss around.
Yesterday, I bought a beautiful mainland parcel, with protected waterfront on the Blake Sea. I didn't pay a rock bottom price, but given the nature and location of the parcel, I think the deal was fair to both parties.
And not only did I go Premium again, all my alts did too. It turns out that it's cheaper in the long run to use that free 512 tier donation, and to use the weekly stipend to offset the cost of the Premium accounts, than it is to to pay tier. I ran some numbers and it appears that this 12,288 m2 parcel, plus my weekly shopping allowance, will wind up costing me about $32 US per month. That's my ENTIRE monthly SL cost, including paying several premium subscriptions.
Once we get our new place set up, I hope y'all will come and visit. /me just wants to know when's the housewarming party.  |
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Brenda Connolly
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08-07-2009 12:19
From: Pserendipity Daniels Denial is just a river in Egypt eh, Lindal?
Pep ("The truth doesn't hurt if you can't hear it. Lalalalalalalalalala . . . ", did you say?) No, she said she lives on the Blake Sea...weren't you paying attention.?
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Meade Paravane
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08-07-2009 12:52
/me thinks the only thing better than a forked tongue would be a sporked tongue. Saves time doing dishes!!
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Chris Norse
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08-07-2009 13:16
From: Maureen Boccaccio /me just wants to know when's the housewarming party. I asked the same several pages ago, but I have missed a bunch of stuff lately. I wonder if a topless shooting range would work on mainland or is that Zindra material all the way?
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Brenda Connolly
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08-07-2009 13:37
From: Chris Norse I asked the same several pages ago, but I have missed a bunch of stuff lately.
I wonder if a topless shooting range would work on mainland or is that Zindra material all the way? Define topless. Where shooting is involved, it can have a different meaning.
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