Anatomy of a Fail

I hate spam too. It's just that I'm not stupid enough to think that all unsolicted communication is spam.

I'm goING to KILL YOu, SPAm mAN!

Bring it on

It's called "principle". I refuse to knowingly buy from people who game the system in that way, or who promotes their business by spamming, whether by email or leaflet drop (for which reason, in the more material world, I have a 'no junk mail' sticker on my mailbox). There are plenty of other ways to legitimately promote a business.

For sure, plenty might think that I cut my nose off to spite my face, but it's rubbish to say you're denying yourself something you want - the behaviour of the vendor renders the product undesirable, although I know that's a concept hard to grasp by people inured to gaming or spamming. I'm with Isablan in believing that people who resort to those tactics most definitely "fail".

P.S. I see you've just mentioned 'principle' above LOL. Yep, that must be me, then, with the bees buzzing all around my head!

It's surreal having both parties to an argument in your ignore list.

They're talking about trains and social networking tools. It's really great!

a slightly ironic aside is that the bot mania has completely got out of hand on the grid.

The other day I was on the build platform of what will be our house lot when we reopen, working on a script and minding my own business. A total stranger appeared next to me and accused me of being a bot. I said it was unlikely since I owned the place. He said anyone that doesn't have prim hair and a good skin is a bot. I said if I was a bot would I be talking to you? He said I am reporting you as a bot and vanished.
I am still laughing at the idiocy of it all.

So are you a bot?


We should perform the Turing test on everybody. Maybe LL should make bots that go around testing everybody with cunning questions.

"Please do not tell anyone, we just want clean oil and good schools for our botlings."

You're not alone in the idea of it being better to do without what you would like, for that reason, and voices in the wilderness can make the speaker feel good.

Success takes different forms. In business, a high degree of customer satisfaction, and a low degree of customer dissatisfaction, can be considered a success, for instance. But the biggest success of all, in business, is counted in profits. That's what businesses exist for. Nobody can please everyone all of the time but in this particular case, bots increase success, both in customer satisfaction and in profits.

A few people feel satisfaction from not buying from bot-users and I suppose they may consider that to be a success, as the OP does. But it's not a success at all. It may generate some satisfaction for a short time, but they go away empty-handed, whereas the bot-user makes more profits because of the bots and, in so doing, provides a higher degree of customer satisfaction (more satisfied customers).

o rly.

HAHAHAHAHHA
I guess now days anyone with slider skin and hair (even if its not default) is immediately suspect. Also I suppose its now illegal to build/script on a platform above a business you own even if you are the only one there.
I notice that I have not recieved any notice of disciplinary action so I am guessing LL had a good laugh and chucked the AR or it was never filed at all

It's very simple. I have always been consistent on this.
If an unsolicited email is sent in bulk, it's spam.
UBE - Unsolicited Bulk Email


I get unsolicited email that is not spam. These would be one-off approaches for a business deal and which are clearly not part of a mass email broadcast.

"So, if a new manufacturer of ballpoint pens emails information of their new product to wholesalers of ballpoint pens, ..." it's spam.
The fact that the content of the spam might be related to our business is neither here nor there.

You talk in riddles, Sling. On the one hand, it's ok to send unsolicted emails to you if they are one-off approaches for a business deal [concerning the business you are in], but on the other hand it's spam for a new ballpoint pen manufacturer to send a one-off email, offering a business deal, to ballpoint pen wholesalers. What can I say to such stupid reasoning?

ETA:
I think what you are trying to say is that it's ok if a company writes to you (your business) personally, offering something that isn't being offered to other businesses in your field, but that it's spam if they write offering the deal to each of the others in the field as well. Again, what can I say to such stupid reasoning?

At the root of all this is the mindset of the gamer.

Someone who games search or transmits spam is cheating in the same way as they would be cheating at cards in a social setting.
No matter how good their offering looks - no matter how charming and personable they might appear - they have a fatal flaw in their character.

They can never be trusted.
Some day, when it is in their interests to do so in a situation, they *will* cheat. They are built like that. They are simply not trustworthy in business or socially.

Such people should be given negative feedback at all opportunities.
Such people should never be rewarded for their cheating.

True - they might consider that they are winning. An observer might see the only the outcome of their cheating and conclude that they are winning.
In the end however, they are a fail.

No Phil, She didn't find what she wanted because she was looking for content from an honest creator, worthy of being showcased. The bots actually made her search more difficult.

LMAO! You forgot to mention that they will also eat your babies if they get the opportunity! And they laugh at displays of sheer stupidity that you are so good at, Sling

Are you sure you've got a job? I mean, somebody actually employs you? With a brain like you have?

I use "one-off" in the sense that the sender has sat down and composed an email specifically intended for my company. The content is sent once only, and only to a singe username at my company.

You use "one-off" in the sense of the same email sent to a large number of recipients at one time.
That sort of "one-off", when sent unsolicited, is spam.


There is no inconsistency or conflict in my view.
Your mindset simply leads you to misunderstand or misrepresent the view.

But she did find what she wanted. She was about to IM the creator because she found she what she wanted. And then she went away empty-handed - with nothing.

I added to the post to that effect.

So it's not spam if someone sat and personally wrote to someone in your company. I suppose then that it wouldn't be spam if the person sat and wrote a similar email to someone in another company, and another, and another, and so on. But perish the thought that the person might copy and paste it to another company, changing only the name it is sent to, because that would be evil spam.

Sling, your views on spam don't surprise me at all. They display the same lack of common sense that you display in your bots stuff. You have it your way, a few will have it with you, but the rest of the world uses common sense.

No, she *thought* she found what she wanted. The bots wasted her time.

I can't wait for the bit where he shoots himself.

She found items that she wanted but went away empty-handed.

Precisely