Changing a modify outfit in a graphics program

How do i get an outfit that is modify to a graphics program so i can alter it, i hav ebeen trying and i can't seem to figure out how to take the texture from the outfit and change it

Modify outfit != free to modify texture.

The modify flag only concern the IN SL sliders. Not the texture.

You do need the actual texture to be able to modify it.
Then it's a simple matter of saving the texture file to your harddisk, do the mods and re-upload.

Trouble is, if you could do THAT then you could take any moddable piece of clothing, download it, then edit it, and upload it and sell it as if it were your own creation. That wouldn't be a good thing, IMHO.

this user agrees.

In other words, Dove, there are ways you can do it, but you shouldn't. That's not what "modify" means, with respect to SL.

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That.

"Modify" means shorten the pant legs or skirt hem, or resize a prim skirt to fit.

"Modify" does NOT mean change the textures. Textures on purchased objects are generally No Mod

Or tint...I tint a lot.

Right.. tinting is perfectly fine. Not everyone has the same skin tone.

I believe the no-mod trend is only hurting legitimate SL consumers in the long run.
If someone wants to steal anything in SL , they already can. (Hello, heard of copybot?) so all this no-mod trend does is hurt legitimate users who want to modify and sometimes even fix something they purchased. Assuming they will resell it is false. I can't tell you how many times something has looked good in the picture but has flaws or doesnt fit right.

So to the point, if copybot already allows any dishonest person to full-perm copy anything, then who is all this "no-mod" trend hurting? Not the dishonest people, thats for sure.

I don't buy no mod items unless they're a) cheap enough that I don't care if I need to trash them or b) absolutely in love with whatever it is.

You are talking about being able to modify an outfit with sliders and tints and moving/coloring/resizing prims. The OP is talking about taking a clothing texture (the picture of the clothing item itself) uploading it and modifying it. Many designers will allow you to modify the clothing that you buy, but you should NEVER upload and change a clothing texture.

Just because there are programs out there that allow some people to steal clothing textures doesn't make it right by a long shot.

What "no-mod" trend? I haven't noticed it... then again, I never buy no-mod, so maybe I just subconsciously skip over that stuff, LOL. It's funny that I buy only modifiable clothes, now that I think about it, because I never actually get around to modifying it. Heh. *shrug*

No, I'm talking about textures as well. If I buy something and find out the designer was in a rush and there are flaws in the clothing texture, are you saying i shouldn't be able to fix the clothing I just bought? I take issue with calling this stealing.

Yeah, I see exactly the opposite trend. Thank god. When all the no-mod and scripted-resize creators are finally defunct, customers will have good reason to rejoice.

When you say 'texture' are you referring to the 'fabric' on the outfit or the actual outfit itself (for example, if a seam doesn't line up or something)?

You might be perfectly honest and only fix what irks you, but that doesn't mean the rest of the grid will do the same. If a designer were to make their items mod to the point of allowing changes to the basic textures, someone somewhere WOULD claim it as their own and resell it...probably faster than you can say 'content theft.'

But you already know the problem with that: Any texture you modify, you'll upload with full perms and with yourself as creator. So, the SL permissions system keeps the texture separate from the clothing article(s) based on it. So, in order to get at the texture, you'll (almost always) be doing something to circumvent the SL permissions system.

Now, if you do this just for yourself and never, ever, distribute anything derived from the texture, who's gonna know? Still, technically, it probably is infringing because (as much as one may wish otherwise) it almost certainly does not fall within the very limited legal definition of "fair use." (And it's surely against the ToS.)

Should RL manufacturers release ownership on their patented designs, because I can go into a foundry and duplicate most any item I can buy from the hardware store? Are you telling me that the SL consumer should have the final say on how a creator's content looks, functions and behaves? That the term "intellectual property" should have little to no meaning whatsoever?

You seem to forget that a rather disproportionate segment of SL consumers are themselves content creators. Yes, you can use copybot and grab all the content you like. However, most people have scruples and morals, and do not thieve the designs of other folks for their own use or profit. Many artists, designers and creators feel they should be compensated for their efforts, whether you agree with that sentiment or not.

Here's an interesting concept: if you feel you're adept enough to alter things enough to suit your needs, why don't you simply learn how to make the things yourself? You'll save money, and perhaps create something better than what you would have bought, and have something nice you can sell yourself.

when you buy clothing, you aren't buying the textures used to create that clothing. You are buying the finished clothing with the texture already applied to it.

If I make a shirt, I sell a shirt, which is a wearable item. The 'picture' of the shirt that I used to create it remains safely in my inventory. You can make any changes you want (in my case) to the wearable item that you purchased but you may NOT make changes to the picture that I drew and applied to that wearable item.

If you purchase a wearable item and it has a flaw, then you should contact the creator. For one, they may have missed it, and will want to correct it so that no one else buys the flawed item. We are human, we do make mistakes. If you purchase a wearable item and the workmanship is shoddy to the point where you feel the item is unusable, and the designer can't/won't help you, then don't buy from them again.

If your photoshop skills are good enough to make someone else's work better, then maybe you have missed your calling and should start making your own things.

The artwork that we use to create wearable items is just that...artwork. Whether that artwork is 'good' or 'not good' is a moot point. It belongs to the artist and unless they give you permission, you shouldn't be doing anything to it at all.

If they wanted to steal it and resell it they already can (at their own peril). The only thing stopping them is their decency and common sense. Anyone who is dishonest already has the tools to steal. Yet the honest user is left unable to easily fix things they buy.

Take the tiny avatar I bought for example. I can't make proper clothes for it because I cant link them onto the prim no-modify limbs. Did the original avatar creator really want to prevent me making clothes for the avatar? The system is just too restrictive and stifles legitimate creativiity.

Thank the gods for decency and common sense.

I don't know what to tell you about your tiny avatar, since I know nothing about them other than they are cute. I have seen clothing sold for them though...maybe artful use of attachment points?

I guess you've never bought an Apple computer. Go ahead, try working on one of those things yourself. You'll soon see that proprietary hardware protects the company's interests in selling you more hardware later - and that tiny avatar's maker wants you to buy the clothes they create for it.

If that really bugs you, make your own tiny! What's the hard part?

Hehe. That's a skewed analogy. Here's mine : Should RL clothing designers prevent you from adding a patch to your jacket or coloring on your jeans?



I'm wearing clothing, not advertising for a designer. Yes I do believe I shoud have say on how I make it look after I purchase it. If I want to wear it upside-down then I will.



If I'm not reselling it, that's REALLY exaggerated. The exaggerated counter to this is.. do you think purchase and ownership of an item means nothing? The purchaser can also call the item 'property'. In RL buying something gives me the right to paint it, smash it, or bake it in the oven at 400 degrees. In SL, i can't even link another object to the item I purchased. There has to be a happy medium.



You must have missed all the parts where I said I purchased items that i wanted to modify and that I did not want to re-sell them.



I'm doing just that, but like most people, I learn fastest by examining working designs.

Limitations of the platform. If you don't like it, take it up with Linden Lab, don't get cranky with the creators for trying to protect themselves.

And, in RL, you wouldn't be able to make an unlimited number of exact duplicates of the item in question with just a few clicks of a button.