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So, is Jamie Spears allowed on the adult grid now?

Sweet Primrose
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12-21-2007 20:06
Suddenly, with a shock of recognition, I learn where the forum derived its expression, "to go Godwin." LOL :D
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12-21-2007 20:21
Wow, was that the noobie I imprisoned last week on my isle of scottish bagpipe hits?
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Isablan Neva
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12-21-2007 20:38
Is it wrong that I am so tempted to write a "hilarious emotion-based post" just to tempt Conan into an eggnog induced flame fest?

I mean, Santa already knows I've been naughty...there wouldn't be any harm, right?
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Conan Godwin
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12-21-2007 20:41
From: Isablan Neva
Is it wrong that I am so tempted to write a "hilarious emotion-based post" just to tempt Conan into an eggnog induced flame fest?

I mean, Santa already knows I've been naughty...there wouldn't be any harm, right?



EMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
/me points and laughs at the emo


You could make up some rubbish about how you saw some furry porn when you were 16 and it messed you up, and that little cherubs should be protected from seeing teh cock. Then I can rant about how your silliness is everything that is wrong with the world and that it breeds the weakness endemic in the young today that is to blame for Linkin Park existing.

Or how 'bout we don't and say we did.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Janice Betsen
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12-21-2007 20:41
It has nothing to do with age, maturity or the ability to go potty all by your self.
It is everything about legal liability. Period. Who gets suied when Bobbie's parents catch him masturbating to interactive porn?

Do you honestly think the whole age verification thing is to insure 18+ only are allowed on the mature grid? It's about rolling legal liabilty off of LL and onto the land "owner". Period. That's it. If LL has to prevent people from accessing the grid it is because they gain more money for doing so.

Absolutely nothing is done in this world without a monitary reason. Anyone who tells you different is selling you something.
Conan Godwin
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12-21-2007 20:45
From: Janice Betsen
It has nothing to do with age, maturity or the ability to go potty all by your self.
It is everything about legal liability. Period. Who gets suied when Bobbie's parents catch him masturbating to interactive porn?

Do you honestly think the whole age verification thing is to insure 18+ only are allowed on the mature grid? It's about rolling legal liabilty off of LL and onto the land "owner". Period. That's it. If LL has to prevent people from accessing the grid it is because they gain more money for doing so.

Absolutely nothing is done in this world without a monitary reason. Anyone who tells you different is selling you something.


Quite right. It is very pragmatic of LL to do so. We the residents, however, gain nothing from helping them enforce this and should ( as I've said before ) keep our big fat noses out of other people's business.

Now behave you lot - I'm near to breaking my Christmas vow. Baby Jesus will cry bitter tears.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Adz Childs
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12-21-2007 20:50
Dear Miss

I believe you already know the answer to this question.
Possibly, you do not understand the problem, and you are not asking the right question. LL does not care about sexual maturity or (insert country here) society's take on when said maturity occurs. It does however care about protecting itself from lawsuits. Can you blame them? If the state of the laws affecting LL's policy bother you, I recommend you speak to your elected officials.

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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-21-2007 20:51
oh ok so this spears person is a celeb

ok and the big deal is??

I am so not a celeb kind of person

for instance last weekend, we were out having lunch and who walks into the restaurant....

mike tyson

so... hubby asks me do you know who that is.. I look around... who? asks I...

he says that guy, right there

me....

um no, should I know who it is?

hubby... you mean you do not know mike tyson...

me

oh the boxer?

hubby
Yeah... (strange look) you mean you did not recognize him, the facial tattoo gives it away


me

well not really a matter of not recognizing him as it was I just don't care enough to recognize him

about the same thing with who this spears chick is
as for getting pregnant at 16 so what?? I know kids younger than that who got pregnant and they are not messed up because of it.
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Janice Betsen
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12-21-2007 20:51
/me sighs.
I'm in bad need of some good drugs. Probably Midol.

Sorry. About the rant.
Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-21-2007 20:53
From: Janice Betsen
/me sighs.
I'm in bad need of some good drugs. Probably Midol.

Sorry. About the rant.



you ranted????

oh man if that was your bad side (rant) then I wanna be your friend cuz you do not rant all that badly hehe
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Conan Godwin
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12-21-2007 20:59
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
hubby... you mean you do not know mike tyson...

me

oh the boxer?

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and famous rapist.
Remember that time he told a female reporter he would "f*ck you until you love me."?

Not a pleasant man.
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From: Raindrop Cooperstone
hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Colette Meiji
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12-21-2007 21:00
The fact that the human race has a long history of sexually exploiting girls really shouldn't be lauded as an example why the 18+ restrictions on the internet need to be relaxed.

Fortunately the understanding of the biological and psychological processes involved with the maturation of children is better understood and the legal ages of consent are on the rise in most of the civilized world.

While of course teenagers will always experiment with sex, they shouldn't be doing it with adults.
Conan Godwin
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12-21-2007 21:04
From: Colette Meiji
The fact that the human race has a long history of sexually exploiting girls really shouldn't be lauded as an example why the 18+ restrictions on the internet need to be relaxed.

Fortunately the understanding of the biological and psychological processes involved with the maturation of children is better understood and the legal ages of consent are on the rise in most of the civilized world.

While of course teenagers will always experiment with sex, they shouldn't be doing it with adults.



Quite. However, SL is not experimenting with sex - it is experimenting with porn. There is a subtle difference.

Interestingly, the Netherlands has the lowest rate of teenage pregnancy in the world. Age of consent of 16. They are planning to change it to 18. My question is; why change something that is clearly working so well for them?

Anyway, we're slightly off-topic - back to this slutty, knocked-up Z-list celebrity.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-21-2007 21:09
From: Conan Godwin
and famous rapist.
Remember that time he told a female reporter he would "f*ck you until you love me."?

Not a pleasant man.


honestly did not know about that. (not nice at all)

I protected my ears when he went by though hehe

(seriously he looked like any other guy in the restaurant, average looking joe)

and no one bothered him and the ppl he was with
one couple went over to the table but with a familiarity that maybe he knew them or something
(I did not even know he lived out here)

NOW... if it were Alice Cooper I might look a few times hehe
hell I would go over and say hi then tell him about SL and get him addic... er playing too

(and alice lives somewhere around these parts)
but unless I am at Alice's restaurant, I highly doubt I will see him in someone elses hehe

not to be confused with Arlo Guthrie's Alice's Restaurant (awesome.... song? story? not sure what to call it hehe)

if you do not know about it, look it up (I never googled, ex hubby had the lp for it)
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12-21-2007 21:11
From: Cristalle Karami
Yeah, that 12 year old that gets knocked up is an adult. :rolleyes:

physically.... yeah. hey I dun make the rules...

a persons mental/emotional maturity is not always reflected in age or physical develoment. in fact if you take these forums as an example, it's no indication at all =P
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Colette Meiji
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12-21-2007 21:12
From: Conan Godwin
Quite. However, SL is not experimenting with sex - it is experimenting with porn. There is a subtle difference.

Interestingly, the Netherlands has the lowest rate of teenage pregnancy in the world. Age of consent of 16. They are planning to change it to 18. My question is; why change something that is clearly working so well for them?

Anyway, we're slightly off-topic - back to this slutty, knocked-up Z-list celebrity.


I wasn't comparing a 16 year old getting pregnant to accessing porn: the OP was. Like you said, a subtle difference.

Perhaps in the Netherlands they think it will help them further.

Unless its that the fact that the 16 year old girls having sex with adult men is why they aren't getting pregnant, the two are quite possibly not directly related.
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12-21-2007 21:12
From: Conan Godwin

Not a pleasant man.


Not a pleasant sport.
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Colette Meiji
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12-21-2007 21:14
From: Void Singer
physically.... yeah. hey I dun make the rules...

a persons mental/emotional maturity is not always reflected in age or physical develoment. in fact if you take these forums as an example, it's no indication at all =P


The ability to bear children is not the completion of a girl's maturation into a woman, either physically or psychologically.

It is only the maturation of her sexual processes from the inability to get pregnant to the ability to get pregnant.

Boys are capable of getting women pregnant before they are fully physically mature also.
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12-21-2007 21:19
From: Janice Betsen
It is everything about legal liability. Period. Who gets suied when Bobbie's parents catch him masturbating to interactive porn?
Well his parents wouldn't need to hire a lawyer to sue his butt for trauma if Bobbie had not been so flippant with losing his job the 80's so he would be living in his own appartment by now :)

I can't believe this didn't get even a LOL, now it's 3 pages back, it will never be seen a good line dissapears into the ether unsmiled at :/

Hmmm, I wonder if even the Moderators would ever read back here? If there ae any moderators of course?
I could write nearly anything about anyone without geting the thread locked :)
What if I started swapping my posts around between threads ? :)
I could write a blog in here perhaps?

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Better yet <dons toolbelt> I'm going to steal all this cool blue border, then the white bit will be loose and I can see whats behind it, I bet that's where they dump the Linden bodies :P

Captains log 23/12/3023

The Slentiprise crew are finally begining to adjust to being 18 hours in the future, the biggest problem seems to be with payroll who refuse to pay anyone for the extra 18 hours we got ahead by without working, but the Frengi union has protested, I fear all out mutiny.
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12-21-2007 21:20
From: Colette Meiji
The ability to bear children is not the completion of a girl's maturation into a woman, either physically or psychologically.


As far a nature is concerned, it is. Society is a different thing altogether.
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Colette Meiji
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12-21-2007 21:25
From: Isablan Neva
As far a nature is concerned, it is. Society is a different thing altogether.


No it isnt.

Most women grow several inches at least after their first period.

Boys grow even more after they are capable of getting a woman pregnant.

Other physical changes take place as well.

Without going into extensive detail the ability to sexually reproduce simply is NOT the conclusion of physical maturation into adulthood.
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12-21-2007 21:37
OMG another fine mess.
/me goes off into the corner and sits quietly, not my biz.. not my biz.. Thanks my lucky stars I am not her mum.
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12-21-2007 21:37
From: Colette Meiji
No it isnt.

Most women grow several inches at least after their first period.

Boys grow even more after they are capable of getting a woman pregnant.

Other physical changes take place as well.

Without going into extensive detail the ability to sexually reproduce simply is NOT the conclusion of physical maturation into adulthood.


EGAD I need sleep or... something

everytime I see the word maturation I see... masturbation

LOL weird how the brain can do that
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Colette Meiji
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12-21-2007 21:53
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
EGAD I need sleep or... something

everytime I see the word maturation I see... masturbation

LOL weird how the brain can do that


If shed stuck to masturbation, she wouldn't have gotten pregnant.
Sweet Primrose
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12-21-2007 22:10
"If shed stuck to masturbation, she wouldn't have gotten pregnant."

ie... played SL. :D

Incidentally, love and respect for you Colette :) But my mother certainly would take issue with your contention that she was sexually exploited. She was engaged at 15, married at 16 (two months after turning 16), and quite happily raised me and my brother. By her testimony, she couldn't have been happier. She finished her education. She ran her own small business. She and my father were happily married all the years of her life. Most of our grandparents or great-grandparents would tell the same story.

I still think it's our late 20th century culture which keeps people in a state of prolonged emotional/intellectual immaturity... we only THINK we take that long to incubate.

Post-colonial criticism would also take issue with the pronouncement that all marital/sexual forms which do not comply with post-modern, post-feminist sensibilities are de facto exploitive.

And back to the topic, surely if one HAS HAD REAL LIFE SEX, one is not likely to be traumatized by the virtual depiction of same. There seems to be confusion on that point. :) Cause, you know.... like..... only one of those has real consequences.

My criticism, of course, as most people assumed, is not at all directed at LL. It is a question about whether our purported festidiousness comports with reality. I'd say with a fair degree of confidence that it does not.

Incidentally, doesn't it strike anyone as odd that while an 18yr old can STAR in a porn flick, in my state, they'd have to be 21 to rent it? Um....protected from seeing themselves? *laughs*
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