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Keira Wells
Blender Sculptor
Join date: 16 Mar 2008
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04-17-2008 10:16
Oh hey.. got logged in on SLeek(At school) only to find a totally empty friends list.they're all offline >.<
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Sexy Partridge
Registered User
Join date: 5 Feb 2005
Posts: 208
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04-17-2008 10:19
Ok I love sl or I wouldn't still be around but come on this is nuts. I just looked at the past blogs and in the past 18 days we have only had 5 days without some sort of issues...and heck some of those had rolling updates or some other issues but I didn't count those.
When can we have our game back to working more then it's not working. Second Life In-World Service Issues Thursday, April 17th, 2008 at 9:31 AM by: rheyalinden [Resolved] In-world Issues Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 at 7:50 PM by: rikalinden [Resolved] Temporary interruption of services Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 5:03 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Database struggles, interruption of several inworld services Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 8:20 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] More Database Unpleasantness Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:43 PM by: Twilight Linden [RESOLVED] Failed Teleports and Region Crossings Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:17 PM by: Twilight Linden [CLOSED] Login issues and some In World Features not available. Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 7:14 AM by: Chiyo Linden [RESOLVED] ~700 Regions Offline Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 11:43 AM by: Twilight Linden [RESOLVED] Regions Down Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 7:41 AM by: sejonglinden [Resolved] Grey Profiles Reported Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 5:21 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Logins & Transactions Working Intermittently/Peak Hours Info Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 2:44 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent inventory and login issues Sunday, April 6th, 2008 at 3:40 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent Region Issues Sunday, April 6th, 2008 at 12:06 AM by: Elle Linden [RESOLVED] Second Life is currently down - logins are disabled Saturday, April 5th, 2008 at 12:55 PM by: Teeple Linden [MERGED] Various Inworld Issues Saturday, April 5th, 2008 at 5:25 AM by: sejonglinden [Resolved] Various Issues Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 PM by: Joppa Linden [Resolved] Various Inworld Issues Tuesday, April 1st, 2008 at 12:05 PM by: rikalinden [Resolved] Second Life In-World Service Issues Monday, March 31st, 2008 at 2:33 PM by: rheyalinden |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-17-2008 10:20
Gads..
Everyone keeps picking on LL for using [RESOLVED] in the blog posts. I mean, what part of RE-SOLVED escapes you monkeys (apologies to the non-monkeys out there who probably "get it"  )???  OK. I agree they could put up [REBORKED] to make the parity a little clearer, but, meh.. you people honestly ask too much of the poor Lindens!  |
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 2,032
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04-17-2008 10:20
only idiots will believe that as we ran befor havok4 with 50-60k people online without a hickup (excluding the normal lag) Good to be an idiot. Havok4 has got nothing to do with the problems we all experience, thats one thing I do believe. Havok is a physics engine and doesnt relate to any of the problems that are reported. The problems did arise even before Havok4 was introduced, and I am pretty sure they are a result of the number of people logged in and what they are doing. Still, it is getting irritating, especially since there are no problems deducting the lindens from my account for useless classifieds. Marcel _____________________
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Alicia Sautereau
if (!social) hide;
Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
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04-17-2008 10:21
< ... > even better, fromg the blog Second Life In-World Service Issues Thursday, April 17th, 2008 at 9:31 AM by: rheyalinden [Resolved] In-world Issues Wednesday, April 16th, 2008 at 7:50 PM by: rikalinden [Completed] Services and Logins will be down for ~30 minutes Tuesday, April 15th, 2008 at 11:49 AM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Temporary interruption of services Monday, April 14th, 2008 at 5:03 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Database struggles, interruption of several inworld services Sunday, April 13th, 2008 at 8:20 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] More Database Unpleasantness Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:43 PM by: Twilight Linden [RESOLVED] Failed Teleports and Region Crossings Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 11:17 PM by: Twilight Linden [BUMPED] Object to object emails failing in-world Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 6:54 PM by: Matthew Linden [CLOSED] Re-enabling Services Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 3:04 PM by: Teeple Linden [CLOSED] Login issues and some In World Features not available. Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 7:14 AM by: Chiyo Linden [RESOLVED] Two Gremlins Bite the Dust Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 11:00 PM by: Teeple Linden [RESOLVED] ~700 Regions Offline Thursday, April 10th, 2008 at 11:43 AM by: Twilight Linden RESOLVED - Upgrading Central Database System Wednesday, April 9th 7:00 a.m. - 8:00 a.m. Wednesday, April 9th, 2008 at 7:00 AM by: Kate Linden **This didn’t seem to help much** [RESOLVED] Regions Down Tuesday, April 8th, 2008 at 7:41 AM by: sejonglinden [Resolved] Grey Profiles Reported Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 5:21 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Logins & Transactions Working Intermittently/Peak Hours Info Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 2:44 PM by: Kate Linden (Completed) Profile and Group Services Temporarily Unavailable Monday, April 7th, 2008 at 1:05 PM by: Teeple Linden [Completed] Profile and Group Temporary Changes 1:00 PM PST Sunday, April 6th, 2008 at 9:40 AM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent inventory and login issues Sunday, April 6th, 2008 at 3:40 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent Region Issues Sunday, April 6th, 2008 at 12:06 AM by: Elle Linden [RESOLVED] Second Life is currently down - logins are disabled Saturday, April 5th, 2008 at 12:55 PM by: Teeple Linden [MERGED] Various Inworld Issues Saturday, April 5th, 2008 at 5:25 AM by: sejonglinden Logins Disabled until Further Notice Friday, April 4th, 2008 at 10:22 PM by: Teeple Linden [UPDATED] Various Inworld Issues Friday, April 4th, 2008 at 7:33 PM by: sejonglinden [Resolved] Various Issues Wednesday, April 2nd, 2008 at 12:03 PM by: Joppa Linden [Resolved] Various Inworld Issues Tuesday, April 1st, 2008 at 12:05 PM by: rikalinden [ALL-CLEAR] Second Life Phone Support Issues Tuesday, April 1st, 2008 at 10:51 AM by: rikalinden [Resolved] Second Life In-World Service Issues Monday, March 31st, 2008 at 2:33 PM by: rheyalinden [Resolved] Live Chat Temporarily Unavailable Monday, March 31st, 2008 at 1:32 PM by: rheyalinden [Resolved] In World Services Down/Website and Support Sunday, March 30th, 2008 at 2:05 PM by: Kate Linden [All Clear] Transactions Timing Out Sunday, March 30th, 2008 at 9:39 AM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Support Phone Lines Unavailable Sunday, March 30th, 2008 at 9:23 AM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Inworld Money Transactions Problematic at the Moment Saturday, March 29th, 2008 at 2:30 PM by: Chiyo Linden [RESOLVED] Asset Server Issues Friday, March 28th, 2008 at 3:45 PM by: Elle Linden [All Clear] Inworld Issue Affecting Transactions Thursday, March 27th, 2008 at 1:13 PM by: Twilight Linden [ALL CLEAR] In World Service Disruptions Under Investigation Tuesday, March 25th, 2008 at 11:37 AM by: Teeple Linden [RESOLVED] Disruption in inworld services Monday, March 24th, 2008 at 9:30 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] Loading Issues Saturday, March 22nd, 2008 at 12:16 PM by: Joppa Linden Some Regions Currently Unavailable Saturday, March 22nd, 2008 at 5:37 AM by: Chiyo Linden [RESOLVED] Multiple Known Issues Friday, March 21st, 2008 at 12:49 PM by: Joppa Linden Region Data Corruption / Loss Problem Wednesday, March 19th, 2008 at 5:49 PM by: Kate Linden I see gray people… and they walk around like they don’t know they are gray. Wednesday, March 19th, 2008 at 3:00 PM by: Chiyo Linden [RESOLVED] - Some Regions Not Reachable Wednesday, March 19th, 2008 at 12:27 AM by: Matthew Linden [Resolved]Unable to Login Tuesday, March 18th, 2008 at 4:28 PM by: Kate Linden [STABILIZED] Reports of Stale Transactions Monday, March 17th, 2008 at 7:22 PM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Inworld Services Interrupted Monday, March 17th, 2008 at 2:30 PM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Login problems Monday, March 17th, 2008 at 7:05 AM by: Chiyo Linden [Resolved] Interrupted In World Services Thursday, March 13th, 2008 at 4:14 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Account Detail Reports Lagging by Roughly Five Hours Monday, March 10th, 2008 at 10:13 AM by: Teeple Linden [RESOLVED] A number of regions currently unreachable Monday, March 10th, 2008 at 7:00 AM by: Matthew Linden [RESOLVED] Events page not allowing residents to add new events Monday, March 10th, 2008 at 2:49 AM by: Matthew Linden [Resolved] In world services interrupted Sunday, March 9th, 2008 at 11:44 AM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Service Interruptions -L$ Transactions Sunday, March 2nd, 2008 at 3:30 PM by: rikalinden [Resolved] Support portal unavailable Saturday, March 1st, 2008 at 3:47 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Database issues - Transaction Histories not available. Friday, February 29th, 2008 at 10:52 AM by: Joppa Linden [Resolved] Billing Issues Thursday, February 28th, 2008 at 8:41 AM by: Data Linden [Resolved] In-world issues being addressed. Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 at 3:22 PM by: Joppa Linden [Resolved] Region Data Corruption / Loss Problem Saturday, February 23rd, 2008 at 2:10 PM by: Lotte Linden [ALL CLEAR] Rollback on Multiple Regions at 7pm PST Tonight Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 at 8:40 PM by: Teeple Linden [Resolved] Network Issues Affecting ~450 regions Wednesday, February 20th, 2008 at 6:59 PM by: Joppa Linden [Resolved] General network related issues Monday, February 18th, 2008 at 5:36 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Inworld Services slowdown Monday, February 18th, 2008 at 1:28 PM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] More DNS Woes Tuesday, February 12th, 2008 at 5:05 PM by: Teeple Linden [Resolved] Support Unavailable Tuesday, February 12th, 2008 at 4:15 PM by: Kate Linden Intermittent Issues with In World Voice Tuesday, February 12th, 2008 at 3:09 PM by: Teeple Linden [CLEARED] Some Residents Experiencing DNS Failures on Login Tuesday, February 12th, 2008 at 10:31 AM by: Teeple Linden [Resolved] Logins Unavailable/TP Sunday, February 10th, 2008 at 2:00 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent issues within Second Life and our website Saturday, February 9th, 2008 at 10:35 PM by: Frontier Linden [Resolved] Support Portal Outage Saturday, February 9th, 2008 at 5:27 PM by: Elle Linden [Resolved] Logins Unavailable Thursday, February 7th, 2008 at 5:06 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] More Intermittent Website Problems Thursday, February 7th, 2008 at 1:51 PM by: Teeple Linden [Resolved] Inventory Issues : Top Level folders from Library Wednesday, February 6th, 2008 at 2:41 PM by: Joppa Linden [RESOLVED] Stipends and group payouts late Tuesday, February 5th, 2008 at 10:29 AM by: Lotte Linden Region Data Corruption / Loss Problem Resolved Monday, February 4th, 2008 at 10:19 AM by: Hamilton Linden [RESOLVED] Land search and land sales not up to date - Rolling restart in progress. Friday, February 1st, 2008 at 6:30 PM by: Matthew Linden Map Search or Image May Not Be Available Thursday, January 31st, 2008 at 10:40 PM by: Kate Linden [Resolved] Inventory Database Unavailable For Some Residents Thursday, January 31st, 2008 at 4:39 PM by: Kate Linden Viewing Friends Online on Website Temporarily Disabled Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 at 8:09 AM by: rheyalinden [RESOLVED] Support Portal Unavailable Tuesday, January 29th, 2008 at 9:04 PM by: Kate Linden [RESOLVED] Intermittent website failures Sunday, January 27th, 2008 at 6:29 AM by: Lotte Linden [RESOLVED] Difficulties logging in to Second Life and connecting to secondlife.com Thursday, January 24th, 2008 at 2:54 AM by: Matthew Linden [Resolved] Logins Tuesday, January 8th, 2008 at 6:25 PM by: Kate Linden _____________________
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 3,593
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04-17-2008 10:22
is it true that the entire grid, its objects and agents are all running off a few asset servers ? it seems they can add more servers for estate sims and mainland, but they cant add more servers for the assets ? sounds like "fix-a-flat" being used on a worn tire to me. One of the Lindens wrote an article describing how the back end is put together, and that can be useful to understand how all these problems fit. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Service_Disruptions _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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04-17-2008 10:22
Ya know, I can accept troubles. I can accept multiple days of troubles.
But I sure wish they'd tell us what's really going on, an what's being done to fix it. It would make it a lot easier to understand what's goin on. Mari _____________________
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Lias Leandros
mainlander
Join date: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3,458
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04-17-2008 10:25
Instead of closing the grid for updates on Wednesdays we get this. Is this better? Should we go back to the closed for updates policy? This new method screws with the economy too much for my liking. Time for Plan C?
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Sexy Partridge
Registered User
Join date: 5 Feb 2005
Posts: 208
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04-17-2008 10:27
Instead of closing the grid for updates on Wednesdays we get this. Is this better? Should we go back to the closed for updates policy? This new method screws with the economy too much for my liking. Time for Plan C? I would rather have once a week KNOWN outage then all these other ones. This is really hurting some of us small business owners...heck kills our fun too. Try to have a gathering with friends and poof there goes the game  |
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
Posts: 3,125
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04-17-2008 10:29
Good to be an idiot. Havok4 has got nothing to do with the problems we all experience, thats one thing I do believe. Havok is a physics engine and doesnt relate to any of the problems that are reported. The problems did arise even before Havok4 was introduced, and I am pretty sure they are a result of the number of people logged in and what they are doing. Still, it is getting irritating, especially since there are no problems deducting the lindens from my account for useless classifieds. Marcel every one says "it can`t be the physics engine" but how much code is it to go terrible wrong? all other improvements added with it running the backend? this was also "supposed" to smoothen sim crossing, there you have your database issues with handing off your avi from server to server along with all your stuff extra building hight upto +4000m, people have to use a "trick" to get that done with the old client, login with new client, set the hight, login with old client we all know that the old client tells the server to move the prim back to 768meters, but when locked, it can`t move it back, what sort of chaos happens between the client and the server? just an example as there will be a crapload of functions and not just "physics engine", then we have the gone haywire server version "upgrades" of 1.19 wich they had to rollback the entire grid for to revert and it went fubar after with patches and rolling restarts _____________________
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Alicia Sautereau
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04-17-2008 10:30
I would rather have once a week KNOWN outage then all these other ones. This is really hurting some of us small business owners...heck kills our fun too. Try to have a gathering with friends and poof there goes the game same here bettwe once a week down for a couple of hours but rest of the time "working" then daily f`ups _____________________
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Alicia Sautereau
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04-17-2008 10:31
One of the Lindens wrote an article describing how the back end is put together, and that can be useful to understand how all these problems fit. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Service_Disruptions nice for individual services but missing the "all" catagory heh _____________________
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Bec Sadofsky
Yup it's Iowa
Join date: 8 Jan 2008
Posts: 535
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04-17-2008 10:31
This isn't for the faint of heart: You have to look away from the monitor and around the room you are in. See the door? Go through it.. and keep going through doors until you get to a room that has no ceiling and is pretty brightly lit. That's called Outside. It's a horrible place, so be careful when venturing out into it. Once you adjust to being Outside, look around. See the other prim buildings around you, the ones that look like houses from in SL? Those contain your RL neighbors. Go and knock on a door and see what happens. Hopefully, they won't assume you are a griefer first... But it is cold and there is wet stuff falling from the sky... I heard once they call it rain? |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-17-2008 10:33
I think everyone missed Rika's gaff from yesterday's outage blog post.
"[16 April 2008, 2052] These issues have been resolved. Thank you for your patience." Note the date. Probably about when they will have them truly resolved. |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-17-2008 10:33
But it is cold and there is wet stuff falling from the sky... I heard once they call it rain? Inside, it is warm, and they call it a "shower". Try one sometime!  |
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Viktoria Dovgal
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Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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04-17-2008 10:33
These problems started well before Havok 4 was rolled out to the grid.
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Kathy Morellet
Registered User
Join date: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 809
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04-17-2008 10:42
[UPDATE 10:24 a.m. Pacific] Logins and in world services have been restored.
***** Until the next time... |
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Alicia Sautereau
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Join date: 20 Feb 2007
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04-17-2008 10:43
These problems started well before Havok 4 was rolled out to the grid. and pretty much went to daily after _____________________
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Kathy Morellet
Registered User
Join date: 26 Jul 2006
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04-17-2008 10:47
and pretty much went to daily after Actually, it was pretty much a daily occurrence for at least two weeks prior to the Havoc roll out. |
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
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04-17-2008 10:51
Tp's seem back up... I went over to your place Phil for those details.. But you weren't there... Oh well *shrugs* _____________________
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Phil Deakins
Prim Savers = low prims
Join date: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 9,537
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04-17-2008 10:53
I think everyone missed Rika's gaff from yesterday's outage blog post. "[16 April 2008, 2052] These issues have been resolved. Thank you for your patience." Note the date. Probably about when they will have them truly resolved. _____________________
Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices.
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/ |
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Talarus Luan
Ancient Archaean Dragon
Join date: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 4,831
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04-17-2008 11:07
The date was correct. He missed a colon out of the time, that's all. Yah. Thank you, Captain Obvious. |
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Tomas Gandini
Just Me!
Join date: 27 Jun 2006
Posts: 384
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04-17-2008 11:38
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Marcel Flatley
Sampireun Design
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
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04-17-2008 11:39
They DO read these forums. This time the issue was not solved, but closed
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Quaintly Tuqiri
Still learning
Join date: 18 Feb 2008
Posts: 220
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04-17-2008 11:43
Good to be an idiot. Havok4 has got nothing to do with the problems we all experience, thats one thing I do believe. Havok is a physics engine and doesnt relate to any of the problems that are reported. In one of the blog comments, somebody asked Sidewinder if crashes which used to be attributed to physics might still be occurring... that is - previously, the crash would have occurred anyway, but it just happened to crash on physics first. There were enough cases that the physics engine would spontaneously crash first that it is reasonable that it was masking other problems that would have showed up had the region survived the physics problem. http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/04/10/simulator-stability-improvement-and-crash-rate-reduction-results/#comment-596404 So that could be it. Because there are less physics crashes, everything continues and then a lot of other things start to go wrong... where before things would just crash so the other stuff had no opportunity to go wrong. It's nothing directly related to Havok4, but Havok4 could have precipitated it. |