List of bad camping places

i have started listing these places in my "picks" on my profile and as i accumulate more places, ill be posting them on a website that ill be setting up soon and leaving the "picks" reserved for the worst places.

the places that i have listed so far, i have experienced multiple occurrences of interruptions over the course of several hours and several days.

i would appreciate it, that members of this forum do not flame me or this post for providing this information here, as its provided for those members who actively camp.

thanks.

Oh to be gay

Bad camping places? Every single one of them is bad for SL generally.

while i agree with you, whatever reason an owner may have to set up camping, people will camp regardless of tenure and type and in my opinion, camping will continue to exist in SL regardless of whether it increases traffic numbers or not.

Wouldn't putting them in your picks just give them more publicity in search?

I'm not convinced actually. Camping is not for anyone's benefit except to increase traffic and skew the figures.

Remove traffic, you no longer have a reason to pay people to increase the traffic figures to make your store/club look popular.

Thus, camping dies.

Until it's replaced by the next way to abuse whatever replaces traffic - if anything.

Actually putting them in your picks gives them more inbound links so they come up higher in search results, sending more people there. It would be better to make a pick at a neutral location, rename it "List of Bad Camping Places", and type in the names of the places to avoid in the info box.

That is just what I was thinking. Having them in your picks raises their position in the search>all.

It's a bit of a poinltess exercise putting so much research effort into evaluating places where you can earn a max of something in the region of 12L$ per hour if you're lucky. That's about 5 UK pence, 10 US cents or maybe 8 Euro-cents.

I think that's a good idea. Or maybe make a notecard and tell people about it on your profile page. If people are interested, they can ask you for one.

I've never camped but I would not waste one of my 'picks' for a list of negative stuff, no matter how horrid your experiences have been with some of them. Better to use them up with things that bring you joy.

suggestion taken.
thanks.
ill put it on the website instead.

Yeah, camping is bad, but it is better than all the other options.

Pay per ad? Nothing but a money sink, puts nothing back in to SL. The lindens paid go back to LL instead of helping a new player get started.


Number of unique AV's visiting? So sorry if you are a new place, you will never climb into the rankings that way.

In alphabetical order? Yeah, then all the stores can be named............"XXXXX" or what ever will get them at the top of the list.

The current mishmash that is the "All" search? I haven't seen anyone happy with how that works. Seems to give a lot of false positives when looking for certain terms.

in case anyone might be interested, i have the website up and running.

it will take some time for the new DNS records to propagate through the internet so the page may not come up for you.

the website will list bad camping places, good camping places, a list of avatar names that have been used as bots and some landmarks of peak interest.

i am currently working on the content of the site at this time.

http://nyc.myvnc.com

um...

wouldnt it be more productive (and make more all-around sense) to create a list of the BEST camping places?

oh, wait, then everybody would go there, and all the spots would always be taken, and then you could never camp. :X

what is the big deal about not having cash in SL to begin with? When I first came here it took me 3 months to save and scrrimp and save shcrrimp to have 5 K linden for a new skin.

Whenever i've come into money..(and yes there were two people who gave me 1000 linden) i took that money and used it to create..to start buisnesses..which compounded into more friendships which compounded into more oppurtuinities which compounded into more money etc. etc. etc. It's a social networking experiment. First thing that comes into my mind is "How can i turn this into more"...THEN..."Theres a sale at ETD"

Absolutely everything that a person could want or need they can make! I think alll money trees and all camping places are bad..its a hand out that's bad..not a hand up..someone asks me for Linden I show them how to build a chair..I show them how to use slexchange (which is free)...and BAM theyre making their own cash.

whats the addage?.."feed a man a fish.. you feed him for a day..teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"?...These camping places arent teaching folks NUFN.

When did Second Life become a place to "take" money rather than "make" money?

~Lana Tomba

Precisely. I may not be the best builder on the grid, I haven't got a clue how to do clothes, and I've never even tried sculpties... but everything I've ever made ... is unique.

I have spent some money on stuff that I either haven't had the time, or inclination, to make - but at the moment my L$ balance is about 450 and that's more than I need right now.

But, before anyone asks, no you can't have it

Camping is the same as a job working the counter at McDonalds is in the real world. The campers are providing a service in exchange for a small wage. You may not like it, you may not want to do it, but it is just as valid as your building of chairs.

Some people cannot put money into SL. Maybe they don't have a credit card, maybe their spouse would think they are crazy for buying virtual money.

And some of us do not have the skills or inclination to build.

As someone who used to actively camp, I can advise that you not waste your time. Sure, there are some people who pay campers forever, but most camp sites are temporary in nature, so why put that kind of energy into maintaining a list that's probably outdated the very next day?

Well, I mean, unless you have nothing but time on your hands to go around checking each and every campsite

Not everyone in SL is a 3D modeler or a graphic artist. So, saying that you can make anything you need, while technically true, just doesn't work for many people.

How about this... instead of going to McDonalds (or equivalent) today, make yourself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and use the money you would have spent to just buy some L$. Do that once a month and you should be able to not only buy what you nead but even rent a modest house to put it in.

Camping is just so not worth it.

Initially...SL was a community of "artists"

Then..the "wal-mart" mentality moved in. Websites sprung up selling the stuff that alot of the artists made and plazas and mini mall sims sprung up selling what the artists made.

All of a sudden people could buy Linden...for cash...this fed that mentality...buy buy buy.

Second Lifes face changed from a "Community of Artists" to an "online Store front face" for major stores in RL and alot of the artists followed suit by charging RL prices and rates for "services rendered".

This sent out a message to the public saying "hey Secondlife is a "fancy schmancy social chat friendly virtual world" where there is some type of social stigma attached to having and owning things..such as islands and stores and clothes. Please come invest your RL cash." and that drew in a plethera of people who were "buyers" not creators.

Then came in the "carpetbaggers" as I like to call them..the con men...adfarmers and the like...and also people with legitimate stores but who realised they could artificially alter search results by falsely increasing traffic in the stores sim by paying people to "sit".

To me..Campers are an unfortunate result of carpetbaggers who were abusing the system to begin with.

The fact that these people convince themselves that campers are needed...doesn't make that assertion true.

As far as people not being able to build...well.hey...thats the main "crux "of the game.That's like saying "hey..I wanna play WoW..or EQ2..but I'm going to buy my character and never kill anything.."cause Im not good at it" and expect to get the same respect from others in the game who actually worked for their levels.

(and I don't look down on anyone for not choosing to build) I simply refuse to accept that the human "ape" is so limited in his imagination and creativity that they can't take advantage of "one" of the many tools provided to them by Second Life.(I include myself in the human ape comment )

Please don't take anything i said personal..i just get really vested when people don't give themselves enough credit and choose to take money from doing nothing...and by doing that nothing theyre helping someone artificially change traffic results falsely.

~Lana Tomba

Yes but, personally, I don't want to. I'd rather be a consumer than a creator...you lot need people to appreciate your work!

Of course, I have no problem buying L$ either. *shrug*

Under your circumstances. Don't put everyone under one blanket.

I know this will never happen but in my world part of Orientation Island would be a tutorial in how to make "something".

~Lana Tomba

For YOU, not necessarily for everyone else.



I play WoW. I don't , however, do battlegrounds or run instances if I can avoid it...I'm not interested in that part of the game. I view my lack of desire to build/create/whatever in SL similarly.

I'm not flaming...I'm providing a service.

errr......"ACTIVELY CAMP" ????



oxymoron

Main Entry: ox·y·mo·ron
Pronunciation: \ˌäk-sē-ˈmȯr-ˌän\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ox·y·mo·ra \-ˈmȯr-ə\
Etymology: Late Greek oxymōron, from neuter of oxymōros pointedly foolish, from Greek oxys sharp, keen + mōros foolish
Date: 1657
: a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness); broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements