Camping dance pads hogging sim resources

They do away with certain things that are beneficial to sl residents but camping which should of been abolished long ago still remains. How in the world would you camp hours on end for a few measely lindens? It's beyond comprehesion not to mention embarassment if you really think about it.

Getting rid of camping is the one issue people here should get together on instead of the usual whining of ban lines which seems to be the norm here.

I'm not convinced that camping per se needs to be totally eliminated. If done responsibly, it can increase traffic and draw new customers to malls, stores, clubs, etc. When I was a noob, I did it for a little while (until I realized how worthless the measly few Lindens I was earning was.) That being said, your argument that, since it's a waste of the camper's time, it should be abolished, doesn't hold water. If everything that was a waste of time in somebody's opinion somewhere were abolished, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

I suspect that the new Search is going to make traffic numbers a lot less important soon, anyway. So maybe the problem will solve itself.

Are we ARing people for having campers now?

When did that become a breach of ToS?

If it is an unreasonable use of resources, it is a violation of TOS.

Are there any set guidlines on what is reasonable, or is it an arbitrary decision on a case-by-case basis?

I think LL should just do away with traffic altogether - it's gamed to the point that it has next to no meaning at all.

I think SL is doing a jolly fine job of eliminating traffic. Half of us can't get in and the half that can can't move.

Governments have been looking for the solution to gridlock for years. They should just go to LL and ask them how it's done.

Easy. Close the roads and stop selling petrol!

I'm guessing that permanently filling the entire region so others can't get to their homes, as was happening in Quigley from what I saw, would be considered unreasonable.
That's just a wild guess though.

Sally, your answer was reasonable and to-the-point. It also displayed a knowledge of the subject at hand. One could even hazard a guess that you had actually READ the TOS, specifically the section dealing with disrupting regions.

You have no place in this thread. Get your stuff and get out.

So, to clarify, if someone made a regular club that was really really ace and lots of people wanted to go just to dance and hangout - that would be an ARable offence too?

I'm pretty sure it has happened, but probably not often with simply a club and surely a sim-maxing club experience isn't at all ace, if I'm using the term correctly. Lots of events get a bigger turnout than the organizers and their neighbors bargained for. I'll bet LL has fielded plenty of ARs on that account, and the fact that it's camping chairs that result in official action makes perfect sense to me.

My point is that whether it's camping chairs with the promise of payment, or just really good music that attracts people, it should make no difference - people build a place and want to encourage as many people to come. It shouldn't matter whether those people are on dance pads or buying pants in a store, 55 avatars is 55 avatars. It's the presence of the avatars that causes the lag, not the dance pads' scripts (that causes some, but is dwarfed by the amount caused by the mere presence of the avatars). So any place that encourages large numbers of people to congregate for whatever reason should be treated the same.

The community standard for disturbing the peace is fairly broad. Examples are given but there is no exhaustive list supplied. If you use up all the resources on an isolated private region, whatever, it's your tier to waste. If you own all the land on a mainland region, again it's not going to affect others so much, provided that the mayhem is mostly kept within the sim borders. But once you're sharing a region with other land holders, it becomes a much bigger deal because it can become a denial of service attack. It would be easier for LL to find a reason to take action for camping pads than other more "natural" crowds, because there are scripted objects to point at and little room for doubt.

Actually, it does make a difference. In the camper club, there is little to no actual interaction going on between avatars.. they're all mindlessly dancing. In an event/great music club, people are there to BE there, and are usually chatting, interacting in some way or form.

Of course, the latter form of club tends to buy their own sim to be in after a while.. in consideration to the neighbors.

If I don't like what's going on a certain region (especially if I don't live there) I would't complain. I just look for a region I like, and hang out there.
I found a COOL little island kept secret for a reason. We don't have the dance pad problem on Rasta Island, as a mater of fact there is no camping here; its just good folks chilling and dancing, getting an even tan, scuba diving, sailing just relaxing in the sun and surf, making new friends... OH! Live DJ's playing the best Reggae practically every day! We have little to no lag on Rasta, unless of course you count when the large crowds show up and start clamoring to get a spot on the dance floor...Peace, and a big Rasta grin.