New Property, New Neighbors, New Problems and a Hopeless Question
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Kidd Krasner
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03-25-2008 07:45
In the interest of fairness and consumer awareness, let me mention the HomeSecurity Orb by Psyke's Defense Systems, another very popular security system. This is the one I use, and it also has the ability to limit scanning to the current parcel.
I haven't compared it with the hippoSecure, so I can't say which is better or what their relative advantages and disadvantages are. As with any purchase for something this critical (even though the prices are low), it's worth shopping around.
I have no relation with either Psyke or HippoTech, other than as a satisfied customer of the former.
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Kidd Krasner
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03-25-2008 07:48
From: Sling Trebuchet I wish LSL could write to notecards. It would make it so much easier to create wizard scripts that could take people through setups.
The Psyke system I just mentioned does indeed have a setup wizard. While there are some benefits from being able to write notecards in this situation, it's not critical.
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 08:16
There are no ban lines ... the PARCEL has been banned. Call me a noob, but I don't know what that means.
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Lindal Kidd
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03-25-2008 08:27
From: Adana Ember There are no ban lines ... the PARCEL has been banned. Call me a noob, but I don't know what that means. Neither do I. Unless you mean that you, specifically, have been banned FROM the parcel. In that case, there would not necessarily be ban lines. You'd just get a "you're banned" message. re: trademarking "Hippos". I don't think Our Hosts can get away with that one. It's a word in common usage, and they've never used it to designate a product...only an error condition.
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Cherry Czervik
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03-25-2008 08:31
From: Kidd Krasner In the interest of fairness and consumer awareness, let me mention the HomeSecurity Orb by Psyke's Defense Systems, another very popular security system. This is the one I use, and it also has the ability to limit scanning to the current parcel.
I haven't compared it with the hippoSecure, so I can't say which is better or what their relative advantages and disadvantages are. As with any purchase for something this critical (even though the prices are low), it's worth shopping around.
I have no relation with either Psyke or HippoTech, other than as a satisfied customer of the former. /me adds my support to Psyke. I've found him incredibly helpful, even when I accidentally reset the orb's scripts (knowing very well I shouldn't but being mousepointer happy and dopey). He laughed at me for being a dingbat, but still helped all the same. The docs warn you of configuration which can cause you to fall foul of the ARs ... frankly, neighbour safe should not even be an option, it should be automatic - a lot of cheaper systems don't even bother with the option. Psyke rocks.
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Madhu Maruti
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03-25-2008 08:32
From: Adana Ember There are no ban lines ... the PARCEL has been banned. Call me a noob, but I don't know what that means. I'm not sure what that means either - where did get that phrasing from, was it a message you received?
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 08:45
From: Madhu Maruti I'm not sure what that means either - where did get that phrasing from, was it a message you received? I went back in to get a screenshot to show you, but now the security system is back, the ban is no longer in place and so far the security system seems to be restricted to his land ... so far ... *crosses fingers* I've never considered using a security device myself, but it has occured to me that putting one on my skybox might not be a bad idea. I don't really want visitors up there because I use it to change clothes and try out interesting new gadgets (maybe I should go shopping for those poseballs  ) ... hmmm ... this could all turn out very beneficial.
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Raudf Fox
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03-25-2008 08:46
From: Sling Trebuchet It's always worth offering to help people set up such things, even if only in one's own interest.
I've had success in helping people to set up orbs, AO's and other devices that I was not familiar with. I just ask the person to pass me copies of the documentation and any configuration notecards. Generally, the information required is in there, but sometime takes a bit of digging.
Then it takes some slow pedantic coaching to take them through the checklists. It's definitely worth the effort when the person in question is a neighbour was going to give up and use ban lines.
I wish LSL could write to notecards. It would make it so much easier to create wizard scripts that could take people through setups. Don't get me wrong, Sling. I didn't say they couldn't be helped, only that they didn't WANT to be helped by their neighbor. So they took the simple approach of using the ban lines, which might only last as long as it take for them to figure the system out. Edit: Which is apparently what happened! So says the one that doesn't ask for help, but would rather sit for hours and read the manuals before digging in.  And I'll agree, it'd be great if we could write a wizard for setting up products in SL.
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 09:16
From: Raudf Fox And I'll agree, it'd be great if we could write a wizard for setting up products in SL. What about a wizard that asks for coordinates of an area you want to be protected? All the user would have to do is find the opposite corners length, width and height, and the gizmo would set itself. I suppose some people would have a hard time figuring out what it meant when it asked for these coordinates.
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Dekka Raymaker
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03-25-2008 09:23
From: Adana Ember What about a wizard that asks for coordinates of an area you want to be protected? All the user would have to do is find the opposite corners length, width and height, and the gizmo would set itself. I suppose some people would have a hard time figuring out what it meant when it asked for these coordinates. you expect the average land owner to know how to do that?
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 09:26
From: Dekka Raymaker you expect the average land owner to know how to do that? hehehe ... yeah  ... if a nitwit like me can figure it out ... 
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Sling Trebuchet
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03-25-2008 09:31
From: Adana Ember What about a wizard that asks for coordinates of an area you want to be protected? All the user would have to do is find the opposite corners length, width and height, and the gizmo would set itself. I suppose some people would have a hard time figuring out what it meant when it asked for these coordinates. A decent product would rezz a probe, go looking for the boundaries of the parcel that it was in, and set those as a default starting set. That would work at any altitude or on rough/sloping terrain. I always use a Conover's Gadget when doing a new build on ground or in the air. That builds a wall or corner sticks in seconds from which I can both see the boundary and read off the coordinates.
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Trout Recreant
Public Enemy No. 1
Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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03-25-2008 09:34
From: Adana Ember Dear Neighbor, While on my search to find your security device so I could mute it I scanned my camera through your house. It is very beauiful, by the way. I was facinated with the throne-like chair in your foyer. Do you use this to greet guests? ... I mean the ones who don't get orbited off your property? ... I also noticed the bathing facilities upstairs ... and the poseballs ... I understand why you would want to keep people out now ... anyway, I found your security device. Very clever of you to put it on the upstairs balcony ... it took me a while to find it ... probably because I kept going back to look at those poseballs ... ... anyway, it occured to me that in order to avoid getting orbited off your property, I could "sit" on one of those poseballs. I'm not familiar with security systems, but once upon a time when I did all my building on sandboxes I would "sit" to avoid getting orbited while I worked. However, then I realized those poseballs were too far away, and all that would happen would be I would fly around for a few seconds before your security system sent me to the moon ... which might be kind of fun if I get bored ... ... which may very well happen. It has also occured to me that many of the people I was hoping to attract to my land to visit me won't be coming now because of the nagging security system. I suppose I could ask everyone who comes to try and mute the security device ... I know, I'll hand out notes ... Dear Guest, I apologize for the security system of my neighbor. He has advised us that if we don't want to listen to it we should mute it. In case you don't know how to do this here are some instructions: 1) Activate your camera controls. I usually do this by clicking View >> Camera Controls 2) Stand sideways to his property directly beside the waterfall 3) Using the Camera Control move towards the house 4) Pass through the house ingnoring the poseballs (Under no circumstance should you "sit" on the poseballs unless you have already received a landmark so you can return easily after being orbited). 5) Find the Security Device on the front balcony (unless he's relocated it in which you shall have to scan all over his house to find it ... which may prove interesting, it's a very pretty house). 6) Right click on the security device and click "More" until you find the "Mute" 7) Click "Mute"  Return quickly without clicking on the pose balls ... unless you like being orbited ... yes I know, a bath would be nice ... feel free to take a dip in my fountain. Adana Ember This is really well done! Excellent effort.
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 09:58
From: Sling Trebuchet A decent product would rezz a probe, go looking for the boundaries of the parcel that it was in, and set those as a default starting set. That would work at any altitude or on rough/sloping terrain.
I always use a Conover's Gadget when doing a new build on ground or in the air. That builds a wall or corner sticks in seconds from which I can both see the boundary and read off the coordinates. See, I knew there were smarter people then me  ... I'm gonna get me one of those.  From: Trout Recreant This is really well done! Excellent effort. Thanks ... I actually sent it to him ... then added a comment at the end that a friend of mine had been evicted off MY land by HIS Security System. Maybe that inspired him to fix it.  ... I can only hope
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3Ring Binder
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03-25-2008 11:35
From: Adana Ember I woke up this morning to check and see if my neighbor had fixed the problem only to find that the security system was removed and his parcel has been banned. What does that mean exactly? Is he banned from SL or is everyone (or just me) banned from his parcel. I have checked and no one is listed on the banned list for his land. I didn't AR him, but I think a friend of mine did on my behalf. He thought I was being too soft of the guy. BTW ... three sides of my property have empty parcels ... is anybody looking for land? I really, really, really would like some nice neighbors  he doesn't want you interacting with him in any way. place your property so that this side of your land is the least desireable to visit and ignore him. ban lines are a fact of life so just get used to it. i wish they were invisible. where's your land?
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Adana Ember
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03-25-2008 12:17
From: 3Ring Binder he doesn't want you interacting with him in any way. place your property so that this side of your land is the least desireable to visit and ignore him. ban lines are a fact of life so just get used to it. i wish they were invisible.
where's your land? No ban lines, thank goodness. I'll send you an LM in world  ... anyone else want to visit? Ping me and I'll do the same. The thing that sold me on this property is that if you have your draw set to 256 or better you can see an awsome sim with old wooden sailing ships from a sim with an old timey naval battle going on. I can watch it for hours. Or I could before someone put a house between me and it, but I can still see it if I fly up a bit.
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3Ring Binder
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03-25-2008 12:20
that does sound pretty cool.
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