"What happens if I don’t flag my restricted content?"

Colette ..... The chances of ANY company BUYING to provide a service is non existant.

The chances are the same as LL paying you to come to SL so they can sell you virtual nissans *wink*. Whats more likely is that Linden Lab approached Integrity etc and asked for quotes for identiy verification, they then quoted and then LL decided as to which system they wished to employ. I am unsure which details you wish private etc BUT in the UK its illeagal for ANY company to sell on your information under the " 1998 Data Protection Act " without your prior concent, and certainly supplying LL with your details does NOT give LL the ability to operate a data sales system either directly or indirectly. In the UK we have a system where the information has to be requested.... even sales people arnt allowed to contact you without prior arrangment. Is this relivent .... well yes .. it is, because LL "other" base is less than 10 miles fromm my front door in Brighton UK so they have to register as a company in the UK to operate therefor complying with UK data protection laws which would follow through to thier partners.

I for one cannot imagin any company paying to provide a service...your data just ISNT worth more sold than paid for to get it.

About as heavy as a "Are you 18+?" I'd say. (and *sigh*)

There would have to be a security device between the landing point and the content that booted unknown avatars.

I suppose a discreet sign warning/promising invited guests that there was restricted stuff below might be suitable in case one inadvertently invited a non-verified friend without first checking on their attitudes.

I have to disagree with some of this.

It has been comon practice in the US for years for some companies to sell Mailing and telephone lists.

Even before the internet.

IF Aristotle did pay LL to be the verifier it makes a HUGE difference than if LL payed Aristotle.

Since the only motivation Aristotle would have to pay LL would be to get at this data that they could turn around and sell.

It doesnt sound profitable when its one person. You think "Wow they paid 5 cents to get 10 cents worth of data"

But if its a fee to get at Hundreds of thousands of people's data the dynamics change.

You pay $1000 dollars to get $2000 worth of data, and so on.


Now I dont know this is true - its just whats been tossed around on these forums - add that to the claim of someone that their data was sold, and its enough for me to not want to be in the first wave of lemmings off the cliff.

Ill make sure its a low cliff first, thank you very much.

Yes as I have said before it is providing a weapon to crusading vigilantes. Oh well, nothing to be done about that. I personally think the 700m solution is the easiest way to avoid the vigilantes, rather than pushing the issue on the ground level, if one plans to leave the land unflagged.



Not so well under laws designed to protect minors, who may in many cases be seen as not being capable of providing a valid "waiver".

Meh ... that would be about right. Still, I am torn. I want kids kept out of areas they shouldn't be in.

That of course is the Main Grid. I want adults kept out of TG more tho.

I have to back Marty up here.

In the UK we have VERY VERY stringent Data Protection Laws.

We also have the various preference services ... Telephone, Mailing, Fax etc. If you are bothered by someone when you are part of this scheme, they are pretty merciless about it.

Of course in the UK we like to be all interogatory and strict ...

But Aristotle is an American company and so is LL. If Aristotle did pay LL to be the Verifier it wouldnt be doing it under the way things work in the UK.

In the US we have basically the Do not call list - thats it. Our data protection is nothing like yours.

Which is why Integrity can verify the adult data entered by a minor in the USA (40% of SL residents?), but have no way of verifying such data in other parts of the world.

Both Colette AND Marty are right, for their respective countries. The UK privacy laws are light years ahead of ours. Our names and numbers have been a highly traded commodity here long before the internets. Telemarketers and the such prey on The Poor, The Uneducated, and The Elderly. Many play to the lonliness of people, over time getting them to hand over their life savings on scams, or at the best useless garbage. While a name and phone number may seem like something trivial, it can be a gold mine to these vultures, and reap far more than the price paid to obtain it.

Thanks for that perspective.

Of course that happens here too ... sadly.

I'm hoping that most other readers realized this is so obviously an urban legend that they didn't think it even worth responding.

But for the benefit of those who may have believed this, please see http://www.snopes.com/legal/lawsuits.asp .

And of course our "Do not call" lists are toothless, allowing politicians and "charities" to continue to bug us.

I've asked Robin about this and I haven't heard a reply. If anyone in the UK willingly provides information to a company who are operating outside the data protection act, you're not covered by it. In that case, you'd be correct to suggest that we aren't doing it under the way things work in the UK.

This really should have been clarified before verification was rolled out.

You KNOW the correct answer to this one, right?

I know you do.

And you get to annoy politicians and "charities" about flightless birds ...

I should clarify that I was just backing up what Marty said, not necessarily in this context

She didnt respond or just didnt answer?

Seems like a simple question.

Did Aristotle pay LL to become its ID verification provider.

Or Did they charge LL for a confidential ID verification service.

Should be answerable without divulging any finiancial details.

She said she'd get back to me but she hasn't as of yet. She's a busy lady so I'm not complaining that she hasn't got back to me but Integrity themselves should be at the forefront of explaining whose rules we're adhering to.

If I visit the mastercard and visa websites, they point out that information provided there isn't covered under the European data protection act.

I hate to say this, but i posted something along these lines back in May, I think... It occurred to me when they were going to charge premium accounts the amazingly awesome total of 10 (TEN) linden dollars for the verification. Nobody verifies or checks anything for ten linden. It is a token amount. Ergo... that meant that nothing was going to be checked... Ergo, it was a data *gathering* exercise.. not a verification exercise. And there aint no such thing as a free lunch... some money was changing hands somewhere... In my ever so humble opinion.

a Nice little earner for someone....

imogen

I can just see ground level building, except for basic shops, come to a halt, and sky cities emerging at 700m....

Everyone will live in the sky, and TP to the ground only for necessities (like new hair). The people still living down on the ground will be ridiculed and ignored.

"Time Machine" by HG Wells, anyone? Or that original series Star Trek episode "The Cloud Minders?"

And when that day comes the pervs will have hill and dale ...

Can I be a Troglodyte? I always thought those cloud people were stuck up asses.

Brenda Queen of the Morlocks!

Sure! You can hang out with all the unverifieds, and we'll all point and laugh when all the 13 year old kids poke you with their primnises...

As long as they match

But they will all have mystitools and be right up there!