SL 6th BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION: Hello?

I suggest an adult boycott of the "celebrations"...

Ari (Just helpin' ya out Pep)

Edited to add: Will this just get me banned from the forums or from SL altogether? Hmmm.......

Hang on - since when did that draft article on the proposed new definitions which LL have claimed in the forum is not correct, and which has a disclaimer on the knowledge base article, and which hasn't been officially announced in world, which is so different to the previous definition of PG that may current owners of PG land will need to move to mature, which is so stringent that even some Disney cartoons do not meet the criteria etc. etc. etc. become the "current" definition as opposed to the current definition people are actually using in world which is described here: https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=3954

Matthew

Don't forget the pie! Hmm, if all the sex people boycott it, that leaves more pie for Puppet! Woohoo!

That is, unless it's decided that I do not meet PG criteria, being a naked, fur-clad canine. At the rate it's going, I suppose it's entirely possible. If so, will one of the kiddies bring me some pie???

Well, if you don't make the PG criteria, you'll be in good company. Here's someone else who wouldn't make the criteria either: http://disney.go.com/vault/archives/villains/cruella/cruella.html

Matthew

It's called "Fiat Accompli". They decided to change it, and screw anyone who opposes it. Oh, and who needs to tell users about the change? They'll just bitch and moan anyway.

SL6B is going to be more G-Rated than a Disney movie, based on restrictions that are NOT officially part of current practice.

I will not be attending.

Concept for an SL6B build:

A 1024 M2 parcel, covered by what at least appears to be a single 30M on a side cube. Could be a megaprim or could be a stack of regular cubes, with the texture tiled across them.

Hovertext over the cube reads "Touch for information on upcoming changes for Adult content in Second Life"

The cube is black with white lettering that reads "CENSORED". Touching the cube gives a notecard that explains, as best we can determine, what is coming soon for Adult Content restrictions, with URL links to external websites hosting data on the Adult Content changes.

The hardest part will be wording the notecard so it tells the truth, but still meets the Ultra-pure-G-Rated requirements of SL6B.

Anyone who wants to have a go at it is welcome to use this concept as an exhibit, if you think LL will grant you permission to display it. I'll bet they won't allow it.

Following up a reference to the ESRB rating for video games, I think LL's definition of PG is roughly equivalent of the ESRB EC rating (Early Childhood, suitable for 3 year olds) - given that the next rating up (E - Everyone, suitable for 6 year olds) include games containing mild alcohol, tabacco or cartoon violence references.

Matthew

All —

Regarding ratings, it really doesn't matter what we call it today— the policy for this *particular* event, on these *particular* 20 regions is not related to the AO discussion currently taking place. That's a larger discussion that is happening elsewhere, and you are all welcome to participate in it. For this event, all you need to know is contained in this link --> https://support.secondlife.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=4417&task=knowledge&questionID=6010.

So, for this event:

* No depictions or incidents of violence or gore.
* No depictions or incidents portraying sexual activity or sexual suggestion.
* No depictions or incidents explicitly advocating or suggesting drug or alcohol use.
* No nudity.

If that is too restrictive for the exhibit you envision, you can use your plot of land as a portal to your more mature region, just making sure that the content *on* the fairgrounds meets the requirements and that people know the maturity level of where you are sending them.

Hmmm, I guess that leaves the gate open for anti-social use of alcohol.

Let the binge drinking begin

Dusty,

KB article 6010 is PRECISELY AND SOLELY related to the AO "discussion", one-sided though that has been, and it is NOT something that should be pointed to by your event as any sort of "Official SL Policy". It is a DRAFT of a document that has not yet been finalized or approved. By pointing your event to that document as a source of "Policy", you opened up a HUGE can of worms.

If you want the SL6B celebration to follow essentially those draft guidelines, and to be a "Cleaner than G-Rated" environment, all well and good. But PLEASE don't point to a draft document, that supposedly is in the process of being re-written and made less restrictive, as your "rules" for your event. What will you do if they revise that document, to make the rules far LESS restrcitive? What if they pull it completely again, which they already did once?

Sorry, are you now saying that we aren't allowed Animation Overriders at SL6B?

Matthew

You're right, this is a whole new can of worms and not to do with adult content (and please, AO is already nabbed, choose new initials )

I've never ever seen a PG definition as restrictive as this one.

Thanks for the clarification, Dusty.

Perhaps the blog post could be reworded so it doesn't imply a connection between the SL6B rules and the controversial draft guidelines? According to Blondin Linden, those are supposed to come into effect some time after Viewer 1.23 is released as the standard viewer, so it was a bit of a surprise to see them described as "the current definition".

Here's some further clarification of the previously not quite clearly clarified clarification.

Thanks, Argos. When I try to check that now I get "A network error occurred: ''".

The new Blog software is flakey as a box of instant mashed potato.

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Dusty Linden says: Whew! I don't know whether to laugh or cry about this one. You'll notice I did change the wording on the main blog post to reflect the current state of things in SL. Here's what happened: when I was given the link to the Knowledgebase article describing the current definition of PG, it was ID=6010. But due to some weird thing in the KB, both that pesky AO draft document AND the the current definition of PG report as that same url if you copy the url out of the browser bar. !!! Gawd.
Lord Sullivan had it right. The correct one is ID=3954. Even though, if you follow that link, then copy the url from the browser bar, it yields ID=6010. Weird.

My bad. I'm not hip enough to the "Ways of the Knowledgebase", apparently.

Final conclusion: the definition of PG has not changed, we are doing it the same as last year, and I'm sorry to throw everyone into a panic. Pure "operator error" on my part. Eeek. Thanks to everyone who made me look into it more closely..'

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Are 'Whew', pesky, gawd, Weird, my bad, not hip, operator error, Eeek, and 'look more closely into it'...words we really want to see from a Linden?

Where is the faith that this whole AC/AO/adult business has been seriously thought through by anyone? omg.....arghhhhhhhh

also when i first spotted the blog about the Six birthday party my eyes automatically read Sex.....such has been the emphasis recently lollllll

Hmm thought for the day...those without the stomach for a sixth birthday party can attend the sexth one instead as long as they bring a bottle....

Someone should introduce you to Torley sometime.

Would you rather everything posted by a Linden sound like it was drafted by a team of lawyers?

If they're accompanied by real action, like this was, absolutely!

Historically, real action tends to be associated more with words like this than with words like "wherefore" and "thereunto" and "party of the third part"...

(insert obligatory reference to the Cluetrain Manifesto)

Ok we submitted our proposals. The chosen theme (chosen by Linden Lab) is "The Furture of Virtual Worlds" https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/events/blog/2009/05/18/the-future-of-virtual-worlds

There is a disussion set up here https://blogs.secondlife.com/thread/1151

I added my two cents.

Now that no more proposals are being submitted we wait to see what response we get from our requests for space at SL6B.

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What's "Firture"?

Pep (Does it mean that there will be lots of Christmas trees on Ursula?)

Shameless plug! meh!

One wonders if "Your World. Your Imagination" can now be replaced with "Welcome to the Singularity, Resistance is Futile"

/me is in the "cross fingers" stage of the application process, and is glad for the mention of kid avvies in the SL6B "FAQ"

All,

Due to a large number of requests, we are re-opening applications for SL6B for 3 days. Starting now, (Friday June 12, 1PM SLT) you can submit a new proposal if your first was not accepted, or submit for the first time. Here are the rules for re-entry!

1: DO make your exhibit anything you like - AS LONG AS YOU ATTEMPT TO ADAPT IT TO THE THEME. We're asking you to share with us your vision of the "Future Of Virtual Worlds" as you see it applied to you. If you make pet animals, that's fantastic, stick an astronauts helmet on them! Explore the concept of animals in the future, have fun with it. Don't be afraid to play the game. Use the theme as your springboard, make the future what you want it to be.

2. DO explain what you intend to exhibit in your application. Not asking for a three page proposal justifying the necessity of every prim you rezz, but tell us what your vision is. Use the text space you've got! Don't simply say "Content I've created..." what is the content? If you have trouble explaining in English, please supply links or slurls to examples of your work.

3. DON'T utilize the Exhibit Info space to tell us all about YOU and nothing about your exhibit or your intentions. Your Exhibit info is not your bio. While we'd love to hear your life story, there is a dedicated section for that. The Exhibit Information section is not that place... unless you're exhibiting you and you alone as some form of Life art.

4. DO make sure where it requests your name to put in the name of your Avatar - not your real name. We don't need that info because as much as we like you, you're not on our Christmas card list in real life. We cannot contact your virtual self with your real life name. We can't drop you relevant notecards or send you an IM when the name does not exist in Second Life. By the way, if per chance you're getting odd inventory offers on your real life avatar, see a doctor about that immediately.

5. DON'T offer to put up a stage and invite musicians to sing. We have music coordinators who have gone to great lengths and invested great amounts of time to create a musical schedule on three stages for 24 hours of the day for the entire 7 day duration. If we let everyone have a stage to invite their favorite performers to sing, your neighbor with the Octo-Alien frog on his 512 beside you would be shooting death rays from his eyes at you and your 40 friends who have lagged the region to a standstill, and used up the entire allotment of avatars for the region.

6. DON'T tell us that the only space that will accommodate your vision is a half a sim. While bigger is always better honey, unfortunately the reality of this event and the magnitude of participation doesn't allow us the leisure of handing out full regions to anyone who asks - or anyone at all for that matter. We've tried to give you a diverse selection of plot sizes to accommodate as many ideas and installations as possible. Feel free to request the largest we have to offer, but make sure you justify the necessity! If you request a 2048 and your tell us your exhibit is simply "Cats." Well, that might not be a guaranteed sell.

7. If you choose to disregard these suggestions because you have to have a replication of Ma and Pa Kettle's cabin in the woods, I urge you to remember that a panel does review these applications and an application does not guarantee a parcel.

8. DO remember: This is ONLY a 3 day application extension in consideration of the many, many inquiries we've received. There will NOT be another. This is your last chance to participate. No further extensions will be made this year, there simply isn't time. Rest assured we want you here!

Apply here: http://tr.im/sl6bform2

Applications will close for review on this date: Monday June 15, at 1pm SLT

Bumping this back up so that people have a chance to see that apps are back open