512 m2 Lot: Can it Handle?

You may also want to consider making another account premium, which is what I did. Actually, it is worth it to get another 'free' 512: at the current market rate your stipend alone is worth about $60/year.

Anyway, the reason I suggested 2 accounts is you can form a group (add in a free alt or two to make sure it never dissapears). Then you donate both 512s to a group. A magical thing happens now: you get a 10% bump and suddenly you have 1126 m2. Six of that is unusable since you can only buy land in 16 m2 increments, but now you can shop for 1120 m2 of land.

Between doing low-prim building and a lot of my building being for other people (so that stuff is not on my land's prim count anyway) I have never hit my prim limit.

You should read a bit about megaprims. Some sims don't allow megaprims, but that is mostly the huge ones used to grief neighbors. I have trimmed down the prim count on a skybox that had over 100 prims.

The roof and floor is both 16 x 24 meter. The floor and roof was both made of 6 prims. I was so lucky that I found a megaprim size that was just 16 x 24. One prim 16 x 24 x 0,5 for the floor, one for the roof. That's 2 prims instead of 12, also 10 prims saved. The ceiling had a lot of beams, I replaced those too. I haven't changed the walls yet, since I don't have a good texture. Megaprims can look bad if the texture isn't clear, or it has to be a tileable texture, so it can be used multiple times on the big prim instead of stretched out.

The tricky part about megaprims is that they can't be resized. If you try, they will snap down to the maximum default prim size. When you know that limit, it is very funny to build with them.

Search Xstreetsl for megaprims and sort by prize, low to high. You should be able to find multiple boxes for free. And do it quick, before all freebies are pulled away from Xstreet.

I also used megaprims for my swimmingpool that had 28 prims before I started. Now it has 6. I used a hollow megaprim for the frame, a sculpt for the inner part so it had a softer edge, a prim for the bottom and a prim for the sculpted stairs. The water is 2 prims, I will try to replace it with a 1 prim water. The stairs pack is so cleaver made that I don't need to use a invisiprim to walk up, if I had to use that it would be 1 prim more.

I've got three skyboxes and a small shop on my 512. No joke. (Do a search for Mypod.)
I haven't started selling anything in the shop, yet, but I plan to sell my brother's original artwork for him, so it will be more like a small gallery. We will also have a little lounge area in the upstairs part of the shop. Very cozy.

Try and search for megaprims and residential structures. It is some builds, I saw some decent looking skyboxes down to 30 - something prims. Some lower too, but then we talk about things that are maybe too plain.

That's not a concern to people with premium accounts.

Non-griefing prims that is. If you put up something like a 16x32x40m prim at ground - well, I've successfully AR'd 3 of those in past. Granted all 3 were made by the same person but on 3 different roadside plots. And only the smallest of them was 40m tall...

But use of mega-prims is otherwise a very smart way to maximize what you can build. My cloud cafe (the image on the left side of my sig) works its floating platforms that way, and my skybox uses a couple of megaprims. I could lower a prim count even more by removing some of the window design and making the walls of the main floor a giant hollow prim - but that would really hurt the look of the place. I figured 32 prims (+3 if you rez all the texture controllers and leave them out) was still low enough.

You won't find my skybox or any other products on xstreet anymore. They're available in-world and elsewhere - but the xstreet fees are not viable for me.

one more question! Ive been looking at lands for sale, and some of them have something called "Simulator Primitive Usage" in the objects tab of land info. Can someone share what that is? Thanks

That's telling you how many prims are already bring used and how many total can be used.

The total will be 117 after you buy it - if you buy mainland 512 . It might look higher now because the total often adds up the totals from all land owned on that sim by the landowner. So if your land merchant owns several plot, it will look off.

Prims used might also look off, if the landowner has a sign there or a sign or more on another plot in the sim. The moment you buy it, you can remove anything there not yours and get all 117 prims for your own use.

Keep that 117 number in mind constantly. Don't get too close to it if you can help it.

I was 20 prims under the first time a guest came by and we tried out my 'bed'. I rezzed the candles and saw a little script error thing pop up - but I was new to land and objects so I didn't know what it was, it just looked like a funny piece of paper popping out of my bed for a second. I also failed to notice that only 3 of my candles rezzed...
- But i sure did notice later on when we tried to use one of the 'toys' in there and it never rezzed... in fact because the bed I had bought was no-copy no-mod... that toy was deleted...

...and I had to get the maker of the bed to come by and give me a new one.
- which can leave you blushing when you're trying to explain to somebody how you broke your sex-bed.

(this had surprised me because the bed was 9 prims, and I didn't realize that it was actually a good 30 prims if all the toys were rezzed - and that those toys were not temp-prims but regular prims, so that rezzing them put me past my limit).

That's why you want to buy low-prim furniture, low-prim skyboxes / houses, low prim plants, and so on...

Learn quickly how those prim totals work, and check that object usage after every time you rez something you didn't make, just to be sure of how many prims you used and how many you have left.

There are a few places that have double prims in Zindra and Bay City and maybe elsewhere - but it will be obvious that these places are unusual - they tend to be in semi-structured downtowns and are annoyingly ugly flat land that you can't rough up or terraform, not even enough to dig a pond.

ah ok, so that simulator prim thing i don't need to worry about, thanks

And thanks for the advices. Ive been renting an apartment with my partner for a few weeks with 125 prims, so I know a bit about being prim-careful lol

One more set of tips:

Check for protected land adjacent to the plot you want (in Fietzo where I'm at, I think there is still 1 512 next to the road - but I might be wrong).

That's one way to be sure of at least one side being a preserved view.

Likewise water.

Also be wary of plots listed as being next to protected land or water that actually are not. This is VERY COMMON. Do an about land on all the adjacent plots to be sure.

Yes, be aware that furniture that rezzes pose balls when touched do add a prim per ball to your total. IE, a sex bed when "off" is two (or more ^_^) prims less than when "on."

Some other furniture uses the mlp like system. Look for stuff with the sit scripts embeded to help keep those prims under control.

Actually Simulator Primitive Usage tells you how many prims the parcel owner (individual or group) has available on the entire sim where the parcel is located. The parcels can be any size, located on any part of the same sim, touching or not even in view of one another.

So if you owned 512 sqm in the northeast corner, and another 512 sqm in the southwest corner, your simulator primitive usage would be 234, because you would own a total of 1024 sqm on that sim. You could put all the prims on one plot and leave the other empty, or split them between the two plots. If you only own one plot on the sim, this number will be the same as the number of prims available to your parcel.

However, if you own a parcel on the northern border of Sim A and another adjacent to it on Sim B, you would NOT be able to combine the prims, even though the parcels are touching.

Well if the poseballs are rezzed as temp prims, they will raise the number of prims it claims you are using, but they will still be rezzable even if it blows you past your prim limit.

Yes, but sadly I have just checked my mlp stuff in inventory, and none rez as temps (poseballs that is).

Question. Can you sit on a temp prim? The thought never occured to me before your post.

Yes, megaprims can be a real pain. A huuuge prim can be rez'ed on a plot and cover a whole sim, as long as the center are on the offending plot. I hope you AR'ed the owner, because it's him/her who placed them there. The creator just made them.

I have a gigantic prim that cover both my and my neighbor's plot. But we are in agreement about it, I bought some "Athol coral reefs" and used one of the small ones sinked a bit down under LL water. He liked it and asked where he could buy one. I said I had plenty in many sizes and could set up one that covered both.

They are really smart when used like that. They can make a place look really cheap if used everywhere, for walls and window details it's best to spend a few prims. But in a skybox shop that should have vendors on the wall, it would be a real primsaver.

What image?

Yes, I have sigs turned on. I see a broken url tag but not an image one.

Not to mention, at least in Bay City, the land is exorbitantly expensive unless it's decreased quite a bit lately. You *do* get the double prims, but still too expensive for my wallet.

(I do like Bay City, just no-can-do money-wise.)

I'll second that

Speaking of megaprims, get a copy of the SALT HUD. It lets you search for specific size megaprims, and have them sent to your inventory. It's somewhat more convenient than unboxing 30,000 megaprims.

It's on XStreet for the time being

You can also get a copy in the freebie section of Builder's Brewery in-world.

Yes you can, and it will stay rezzed as long as it's sat on, but it gets cleared away after about a minute if it's not sat on.

Yes you can. There's a gazebo at the ground on my plot that I bought from a '1-prim items' shop - the entire thing is a temp prim, and you can sit on it. It won't de-rez while sat on, but if you get up it cycles out every 45 or so seconds.
- such creatures are claimed by some to create lag, but my testing has shown it to be near-non-existent. Further the shop I got it from is an entire sim full of temp-rez items - in which lag is very low.



This image:



aka: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/3966893624_c0b50f6956_o.jpg


Or just visit the actual place and look at how I put it together:
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fietzo/102/175/211




Yes of course. I do an about land and AR with that. And if a mega-prim is being used over linden land, I look for the base prim's location and AR the land-owner there.

To address a further concern; if someone is foolish enough to leave no auto return and allow strangers to build on their land, then they are also responsible for what those strangers put there.