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Amity Slade
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12-10-2007 15:59
From: Cleowolf Merryman
i'm sorry, miss communication on my part.

the relationship in that story is to illustrate that i can compartmentalize between real life friendship and pretend romance. we both understand our real life relationship.

for me a prerequisite for real life romance is meeting face to face in person. other wise i consider it role playing. of which i've had long lasting friendships with role-playing buddies.

i read some of the other threads and found myself a little confused on this subject.

different communities have different customs and expectations from their members. for instance i would not go into a vegan diner and request a ham sandwich. i would like to avoid that type of faux pas in 2nd life. although it seem like i've already committed one.

could you cut this dopey guy a break who is trying to figure out local customs and taboos.

lindal and marin thank you for your responces, i'll tread lightly. :)

lindal you right about being surprised. this is an aspect of 2nd life i did not expect and am not sure how to respond to.

this is "undiscovered country" for me. i kind of feel like an 17th century explorer stumbling into a Māori island. :)


It sounds like you come here after experience in online roleplaying games. People who have that as a first experience find it pretty easy to accept that anything that happens online is purely roleplaying and game.

Some people come here though without that roleplaying game background, or with a background of using internet chat rooms to find real life hookups. Those people come with the general expectation that what you present online matches pretty well what you are in real life, or else you are being dishonest.

So people come to Second Life with different presumptions about what a virtual community is supposed to be. There's no real default rule in Second Life about how closely Second Life and real life match up, or don't match up. A lot of people write in their profiles what they expect, and that's probably a good idea.

You shouldn't feel lost though if you think there are some unwritten rules or presumptions that you have missed. There really aren't any. The best you can do is be open about your expectations, and be aware that others may not have the same expectations as you. Doing that, you should have no problem navigating Second Life to find whatever it is that interests you socially.
Cleowolf Merryman
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12-10-2007 18:35
From: Amity Slade
It sounds like you come here after experience in online roleplaying games. People who have that as a first experience find it pretty easy to accept that anything that happens online is purely roleplaying and game.

Some people come here though without that roleplaying game background, or with a background of using internet chat rooms to find real life hookups. Those people come with the general expectation that what you present online matches pretty well what you are in real life, or else you are being dishonest.

So people come to Second Life with different presumptions about what a virtual community is supposed to be. There's no real default rule in Second Life about how closely Second Life and real life match up, or don't match up. A lot of people write in their profiles what they expect, and that's probably a good idea.

You shouldn't feel lost though if you think there are some unwritten rules or presumptions that you have missed. There really aren't any. The best you can do is be open about your expectations, and be aware that others may not have the same expectations as you. Doing that, you should have no problem navigating Second Life to find whatever it is that interests you socially.



sounds like a plan. i'll be myself and roll with it. :) good advice. i'll remember that, no one roleplays here and they take things at face value.
Cherry Czervik
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12-10-2007 21:51
From: Lindal Kidd
It can happen. In fact, it happened before the Internet. People used to fall in love via correspondence alone. One famous case is the scholar and author of popular Christian apologetics, C.S. Lewis. Lewis met and fell in love with Joy Chant, the woman he would eventually marry, through a series of letters.


QFT

And even with the internet, it's just another form of communication. We're all needing communication, right?

Right.
Klang Wopat
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12-10-2007 21:59
From: Desmond Shang
*Desmond leans back in his chair, mind drifting back... back... he dreams..."


EDGE VIP CSLewis Pevensie: hai I am writer u txt bak to me pls?

EileenJ0y Chance: I am 2. u got some $L sterling? I got to pay rent

EDGE VIP CSLewis Pevensie: no but say lets go campping

EileenJ0y Chance: kk

EileenJ0y Chance: I got 10L from mony tree lets go there 1st

EileenJ0y Chance: u get sum 2

EDGE VIP CSLewis Pevensie: rock on...

EDGE VIP CSLewis Pevensie: hey

EileenJ0y Chance: wut

EDGE VIP CSLewis Pevensie: u want 2 go 2 my place? I show u something ^^

EileenJ0y Chance: uh ok


... and the rest... was history...


Desmond, I'm shocked! Shocked! and glad that this happens all over the place.
Klang Wopat
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12-10-2007 21:59
Just remember, it is what you choose it to be.....
Panacea Pangaea
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12-11-2007 03:16
Most of it has already been well said.

My own experience is that, on the whole, role playing in SL is in clearly defined RP groups or locations, tho there are the occasional folks (like self styled SL Police RP-ers) who get the lines blurred now and then. The only time I've acted a part in SL was in the small amount of explicit RP that I've done in a well defined RP context.

But normally I take people at face value, and relate to them in the same way that I would relate to people in RL. I'm not play-acting, and I find most other people are not play-acting either. We have occupations, interests and hobbies, work and play, that are particular to SL - SL provides a context for it all; I may leave my RL at the login screen, but for me it is like my real self exploring another realm.

With relationships, anonimity often means folk will explore things that perhaps they'd never dream of trying in RL, but most would be able to tell the difference between exploring what it's like to be a Casanova in SL, and playing the role of Casanova in SL.

Or maybe not ... the boundaries can get a bit blurred at edges :-)

Another thing which factors into SL is the physicality of it. Though SL is a visual experience, it is the visual depiction of a physical being. And if one has even one iota of imagination, somehow the avatar can become an extension of one's own physical self, (perhaps in the same way that a very familiar car become an extension of oneself while driving), so that even physical feelings can enter into relationships in SL in surprising ways.

I can understand therefore how SL can encompass a whole range of relationships, from the authentic or even sublime to the phony or truly ridiculous :-)
Cherry Czervik
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12-11-2007 03:22
From: Panacea Pangaea
I can understand therefore how SL can encompass a whole range of relationships, from the authentic or even sublime to the phony or truly ridiculous :-)


You say what you like ... so I have feelings for my coffee machine. It's not a crime ... we're not harming anyone! Not even virtual coffee plants, water treatment centres or the virtual nuclear power plant used to power the coffee machine. I am not ashamed. Some of us have ... unusual ... desires ...
Sandy Carver
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Join date: 7 Nov 2007
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12-11-2007 03:33
A Little Romance in My Life


I cannot explain the way I feel about you
Girl, you're always on my mind
Everytime I often think of you
I get a funny feeling that
I'm so in love with you
I want to give you all my love
Let me show you that I'm real
The love that I have shall never fade away
I'm tired of being broken hearted
I need a little romance in my life
Can't you see I need little romance?
Take my hand
May I have this dance
No one can love the way that I can love
I'm telling you
I need a chance
I need a little romance in my life

Keith Williams

(Ahhh a romance thread - never let it be said that I'll pass up an opportunity to look off into the distance and weep)
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Panacea Pangaea
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12-11-2007 03:40
I personally would have classed a deep relationship with the coffee machine as sublime, so I hope you don't feel I was in any way disparaging your feelings Cherry
Kelly Kuiper
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12-11-2007 03:54
From: Sandy Carver

I need a little romance in my life

Keith Williams

Ooooooh matron.

Kenneth Williams
Sandy Carver
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12-11-2007 03:56
From: Kelly Kuiper
Ooooooh matron.

Kenneth Williams


Stop ruining my romantic atmosphere :)

Carry on Weeping
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-11-2007 04:10
From: Cleowolf Merryman
sounds like a plan. i'll be myself and roll with it. :) good advice. i'll remember that, no one roleplays here and they take things at face value.
I agree with Amity, whose post you were commenting on, but am a little curious of your 'nobody roleplays here' stance.

Excellent post by Panacea too but Sally quoted from page one "there are almost as many answers as posters". This is it really. The crux of the matter in a partnership whether you 'marry' or not, is finding that like-minded soul who understands the sincerity or fiction of what you perceive to be.

I have two RL friends I brought to SL. They both have had broken RL marriages. One, an internet DJ 'staged' a marriage on-air to a fellow DJ for a stunt. My other friend was invited to the wedding as a guest but was horrified at the aspect of the institution of marriage, even in SL, being treated as a joke. I was stuck between them - what a day that was!!

SL is a microcosm of RL, differences in physics and visual/biological signs aside, it's a communications medium. Some will say it's a game. Some will say it's a toolbox. Only you can say what it is to you.
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-11-2007 04:11
From: Sandy Carver
Stop ruining my romantic atmosphere :)

Carry on Weeping
Oh, get a room you two!!

:D
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Deira Llanfair
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12-11-2007 04:32
From: Lindal Kidd
It can happen. In fact, it happened before the Internet. People used to fall in love via correspondence alone. One famous case is the scholar and author of popular Christian apologetics, C.S. Lewis. Lewis met and fell in love with Joy Chant, the woman he would eventually marry, through a series of letters.


...and, the UK broadcaster, Cliff Mitchelmore, fell in love with his future wife's voice, whilst they were working together on a radio programme - Mitchelmore being overseas and the lady radio presenter in London.
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Deira Llanfair
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12-11-2007 04:41
From: bilbo99 Emu
Oh, get a room you two!!

:D



Or maybe Sandy and Cherry should "Carry On" over the Coffee Machine .... now who is it that makes the SLmovies here?
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Sally Silvera
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12-11-2007 04:45
From: Deira Llanfair
Sandy and Cherry

:eek:

/me thinks Deira may be sending the wrong two people to the coffee machine :o
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Deira Llanfair
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12-11-2007 04:57
From: Sally Silvera
:eek:

/me thinks Deira may be sending the wrong two people to the coffee machine :o



Thinking more of the movie plot Sally - it will need an eternal triangle situation - hence Kelly gets a co-staring role. (I shall audition for the bit-part of Office Cleaner & Gossip, dealing with the broken down coffee machine.)
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bilbo99 Emu
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12-11-2007 06:09
From: Deira Llanfair
Thinking more of the movie plot Sally - it will need an eternal triangle situation - hence Kelly gets a co-staring role. (I shall audition for the bit-part of Office Cleaner & Gossip, dealing with the broken down coffee machine.)
We need Trout directing of course!! I can be the crowd outside! ;)
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Conan Godwin
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12-11-2007 06:29
I'm saying nothing.
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hateful much? dude, that was low. die.

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Cherry Czervik
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12-11-2007 06:53
My coffee maching is sacred.

(Note for Chris Morris and Jam fans ... possibly wrongly) Richard Madeley is not allowed near it or any of the cleaners around here.

(Note for my own amusement) They won't keep me from my lovers!

/me giggles mischievously.
Cherry Czervik
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12-11-2007 06:54
From: Sally Silvera
:eek:

/me thinks Deira may be sending the wrong two people to the coffee machine :o


Oh I agree there! Poor Sandy.
Sonia Nagy
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12-11-2007 07:16
From: Cherry Czervik
Oh I agree there! Poor Sandy.

Yes, both fighting over that coffee machine. Sad.
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Cherry Czervik
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12-11-2007 07:24
From: Sonia Nagy
Yes, both fighting over that coffee machine. Sad.


It's a hetro machine and Sandy is a boy ... plus he's not on access list yet :)
Sonia Nagy
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12-11-2007 07:26
From: Cherry Czervik
It's a hetro machine and Sandy is a boy ... plus he's not on access list yet :)

Wait, so the machine is a boy also? Wow, that really is sad. Pinning for someone who can't or won't return your love, at least beyond platonically.
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Cherry Czervik
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12-11-2007 07:28
From: Sonia Nagy
Wait, so the machine is a boy also? Wow, that really is sad. Pinning for someone who can't or won't return your love, at least beyond platonically.


/me looks really baffled ...
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