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Yummy Freelunch
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10-15-2007 01:32
My club and my sim got hit, and hit HARD by someone that was able to spam EACH person's name at my club and send out something WITH their name and you had to click on it, or relog..and even relogging, had a billion boxes...i know you cant name names here...which really defeats the purpose to me..but how can we stop this P N group? They have made MORE than a nuisance of themselves..they are screwing up ppls pcs!!! Any suggestions besides bustin a cap in their ass??????
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Novis Dyrssen
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10-15-2007 02:05
Filing Abuse Reports and support tickets immediately? Multiple ARs from each person hit might result in fast action from LL...
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Ee Maculate
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10-15-2007 02:36
Get someone with concierge support to get on live chat as soon as possible...
Alicia Sautereau
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10-15-2007 02:42
if it`s ur sim, u can easilly cleanup with the estate tools
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10-15-2007 03:08
Well here's a cheering post by Ginsu Linden

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Grid-wide Attacks: Disclosures in Law Enforcement Investigations
In the last month there have been several attacks in which users of Second Life have intentionally released objects or taken actions intended to disrupt activity in the Second Life grid. These attacks result in substantial real-world economic harm, and Linden Lab intends to protect its interests using all legal means.

Although most people using Second Life are enjoying the fun and creativity that the platform provides, a few malicious individuals are intentionally acting to impair some or all of the Second Life grid. Please note that personal and account information of these individuals will be disclosed to appropriate law enforcement agencies for further investigation, including U.S. state and federal authorities and agencies in applicable international jurisdictions.

Again, we'd like to thank all of the residents who make Second Life such a great experience, and we are sorry that a few people choose to engage in harmful activity.
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eh? That was in November 2005
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10-15-2007 03:13
Thanks much!
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10-15-2007 03:35
The governance team pounce on situations where a flurry of ARs come from. Only thing you can do is ban them from the land/sim and AR them.
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N3x15
10-15-2007 07:32
From: Yummy Freelunch
My club and my sim got hit, and hit HARD by someone that was able to spam EACH person's name at my club and send out something WITH their name and you had to click on it, or relog..and even relogging, had a billion boxes...i know you cant name names here...which really defeats the purpose to me..but how can we stop this P N group? They have made MORE than a nuisance of themselves..they are screwing up ppls pcs!!! Any suggestions besides bustin a cap in their ass??????


Posting their avatar names would do no good, of course, since they make a fresh alt each time they go raiding.

We can't post their real life names here either, because that's a ToS violation. However, the diligent researcher would be able to search for N3X15 in the Second Life Herald and find postings that reveal this person's true identity. It is he who creates a special client for griefers called "ShoopedLife" which allows them to evade the hardware bans, and the fact that he is still out there doing that is the reason the PN exist at all. Without him, the hardware bans applied by the Lindens would actually affect their ability to enter Second Life.

This N3X15 person, because of the hacked client he maintains and distributes, is arguably solely responsible for the ability of the PN to raid over the past eight months or so. I can't imagine what his legal responsibility might be with any accuracy, but I'm betting its substantial.
Yummy Freelunch
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10-15-2007 12:06
well whats really wierd is they made each of us say this sentence
I AM A MEMBER OF THE PATRIOTIC NIGRAS, YOU LINDENS CAN SUCK MY NIGGER COCK. ALSO, YIFF IN HELL FUR FAGS
so there were 30 of us yelling this..how they did that, i dont know..but they shut us down for half an hour..i did file multiple ar's so maybe a linden cleaned it up, i tried, was impossible, couldnt delete the box it was coming from..man sure wish i could find out where they're holed up and bomb the place! apparantly they dont like lindens and furrys, well WTF are they even doing in SL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brenda Connolly
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10-15-2007 12:08
It's too bad we can't find the mothers of all these idiots and tell them what their little boys are doing in the basement all day.
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Yummy Freelunch
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10-15-2007 12:09
From: Brenda Connolly
It's too bad we can't find the mothers of all these idiots and tell them what their little boys are doing in the basement all day.

LOL! These kids are seriously scary!
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Dementia Obviate
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10-15-2007 12:35
From: Yummy Freelunch
well whats really wierd is they made each of us say this sentence
I AM A MEMBER OF THE PATRIOTIC NIGRAS, YOU LINDENS CAN SUCK MY NIGGER COCK. ALSO, YIFF IN HELL FUR FAGS
so there were 30 of us yelling this..how they did that, i dont know


At least one gadget I know of, the mystitool, has as one of its functions, "mimic". which allows you to choose a nearby av from a list of those in the immediate area and speak appearing to be that av. I'm not saying that this is the gadget that these greifers use, but it was probably a similar technology.
Ordinal Malaprop
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10-15-2007 12:42
Yes, I was just about to say, it is just an object changing its name to yours and then shouting. One can tell because the text is a different colour.

For instance, simply paste this script into an object and touch it:

default
{
touch_start(integer n)
{
llSetObjectName(llDetectedName(0));
llSay(0, "I collect eggshells and make them into trains!";);
}
}
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10-15-2007 12:46
From: Yummy Freelunch
LOL! These kids are seriously scary!


whats worse is thier parents most prolly think what thier kids do is funny...
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Jessica Elytis
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10-15-2007 12:47
All in all, this group has been a problem in the past and is sure to be in the future. Anyone albe to find a JIRA entry relevant to Banning from parcel/estate by Group Name? It's a feature that is sorely needed.

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10-15-2007 12:48
Thanks of repeating that insulting language by the P N for all the forums to hear.
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Yummy Freelunch
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10-15-2007 12:52
From: Bree Giffen
Thanks of repeating that insulting language by the P N for all the forums to hear.

Believe me, this has shocked me, also..im appalled at this behavior but it's reality! They are sending this to people and that's why they need to be stopped! I mean I'm no prude, but this is really bad stuff, and racist to boot.
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Ericka Nemeth
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10-15-2007 13:12
From: Yummy Freelunch
well whats really wierd is they made each of us say this sentence
I AM A MEMBER OF THE PATRIOTIC NIGRAS, YOU LINDENS CAN SUCK MY NIGGER COCK. ALSO, YIFF IN HELL FUR FAGS
so there were 30 of us yelling this..how they did that, i dont know..but they shut us down for half an hour..i did file multiple ar's so maybe a linden cleaned it up, i tried, was impossible, couldnt delete the box it was coming from..man sure wish i could find out where they're holed up and bomb the place! apparantly they dont like lindens and furrys, well WTF are they even doing in SL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


If you were to search them on youtube they have a propaganda video. According to this video, they are an african american colored (I say this becuase I am not completly sure that they are all african american) group that are homophobic. They associate furries as homosexuals and target them. In their video they state that furries are the root of all problems and are completly dangerous.... The reason they fill the area with those boxes are to shut down/crash the sim. They are the very definition of griefer.

But of course if you had a brain, you would know that accusation is completly false. They are probably a bunch of immature teens who have nothing to do at night.

Just AR and pay them no mind.
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Har Fairweather
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10-15-2007 13:22
From: Ericka Nemeth
If you were to search them on youtube they have a propaganda video. According to this video, they are an african american colored (I say this becuase I am not completly sure that they are all african american) group that are homophobic. They associate furries as homosexuals and target them. In their video they state that furries are the root of all problems and are completly dangerous.... The reason they fill the area with those boxes are to shut down/crash the sim. They are the very definition of griefer.

But of course if you had a brain, you would know that accusation is completly false. They are probably a bunch of immature teens who have nothing to do at night.

Just AR and pay them no mind.


Pay them no mind? Ok, will be happy to do so once I figure out how to divert them over to brainy, tolerant souls named Ericka Nameth. Until then, will be looking for other methods, as should we all.
Oryx Tempel
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10-15-2007 13:23
I just watched their video "Huge Boat" and I swear I nearly had a seizure with a huge red and blue flashing thing. Whatever. These guys are mega-losers. Just AR them and move on with life.
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Ericka Nemeth
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10-15-2007 13:28
Haha... Tell them I'm a furry.....

I love messing with griefers....

I don't know why you are so sarcastic Har.... while there is no concrete way to deal with griefers since alts are unlimited, I'm only trying to help.

The only other thing I could suggest, which would have to be a last resort is having an access only club. While it will prevent passer-bys from enjoying your club, it would prevent these ding-bats from ruining the fun for everyone. Hope it doesn't come to that though... I'll have to check out your club next time I feel like exploring (which is mostly all the time).
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Har Fairweather
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10-15-2007 14:22
Probably I misread your meaning when you wrote "the accusation is false." Sorry. I tend to get touchy because there are so many people who post in these griefer threads advising people to in effect tolerate them or respond in ways that will predictably enable griefing. "Ignoring" them mainly leads them to find ways to grief that cannot be ignored - like the OP's experience, or sim-crashing.

Yes, messing with them - effectively, meaning disrupting their attack or making their experience unpleasant and/or humiliating, and otherwise taking away their "lulz" - is what is needed.

Informing "PNs" that everyone in SL knows they are closet homosexuals and they should seek therapeutic help might be a tactic worth pursuing - people projecting their inner conflicts on othersw do not like to see their projections returned to them. Just a thought.

Fundamentally, LL's response to griefers is inadequate and sometimes misdirected. It will probably remain a problem as long as there are unverified accounts, and may continue to get worse until that weakness is addressed.
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10-15-2007 14:38
From: Har Fairweather


Informing "PNs" that everyone in SL knows they are closet homosexuals and they should seek therapeutic help might be a tactic worth pursuing - people projecting their inner conflicts on othersw do not like to see their projections returned to them. Just a thought.



:confused: :( :mad: :rolleyes:
Malachi Petunia
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10-15-2007 14:40
From: someone
I just watched their video "Huge Boat" and I swear I nearly had a seizure with a huge red and blue flashing thing.
Well, I can't exactly say "thanks for the pointer" as its greatest fault was being boring.

But it did bring to mind another short video* which speaks to the right to be offended. Penn and Teller also bring in First Amendment rights which aren't germane here, but I think it is an interesting take on personal offense and paternalism. [NSFW for explitives]

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPhje8wepyg
3.3 minutes
Oryx Tempel
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10-15-2007 14:43
From: Malachi Petunia
Well, I can't exactly say "thanks for the pointer" as its greatest fault was being boring.

LOL I never claimed it was an Oscar winner, just that it gave my eyeballs a twirl. :p
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