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Kara Spengler
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10-10-2009 18:14
From: Tegg Bode
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! (btw, it is Wolfram)

But to anyone actually thinking they could put something like this in their pics and it will have any legal standing:

"feed the trolls, two-pence a flame ...."
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Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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10-10-2009 18:30
From: Kara Spengler
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! (btw, it is Wolfram)

Fixed, thank you for submitting the approriate form clearing you of any liability caused by failure to report this error :)
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
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10-10-2009 18:32
From: Smith Peel
Epic LOLz...
PS - I was too scared to quote you :D

You can quote me under clause 10 providing it doesn't cause a violation by failing to comply with clause 1 or 10 or 500 or 600 :)
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Dick McMinnar
Call me Richard
Join date: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 127
10-10-2009 18:56
From: Tegg Bode
"Legal or para-legal blatherings"


I am SO stealin that!
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Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine
“I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.”
Originally Posted by Lias Leandros
"In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
Argent Stonecutter
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10-10-2009 19:02
By IMing me you're giving consent to having your toes nibbled.
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Dick McMinnar
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Join date: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 127
10-10-2009 19:07
From: Argent Stonecutter
By IMing me you're giving consent to having your toes nibbled.

Well yuh, that's a giwen
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http://tinyurl.com/ml5x3u
Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine
“I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.”
Originally Posted by Lias Leandros
"In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
Dick McMinnar
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Join date: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 127
10-10-2009 19:10
From: Kara Spengler
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! (btw, it is Wolfram)

It's not "Dewey Cheatem & Howe"?
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http://tinyurl.com/ml5x3u
Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine
“I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.”
Originally Posted by Lias Leandros
"In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
Benski Trenkins
Free speech for the dumb
Join date: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 547
10-10-2009 19:17
From: Mischievous Jinx
I am clearly stating to you, that by IM'ing me, having read or not having read these statements, you consent to being logged and that those logs can be used at my discretion without any further notice beyond these statements in this "Pick".

Under NO circumstances whatsoever do I give anyone permission to record any conversation with myself. Doing so will be a direct violation of the terms of service agreement and will result in an abuse report.

If you do NOT wish to be recorded, please let me know prior the conversation or do NOT message me.


You seem to miss a little detail.

At some point, all of us had to agree to the TOS and the CS. No remark in your profile will change that.
Sorry, remarks like this are totally useless.

Also consider this: you bought something and need support... But the creator will not answer your IM because he saw this. What ya gonna do then?

I had such a situation not so long ago. And solved it by simply stating the person that they agreed to the TOS and CS and just followed up with the support asked from me. But the next person might simply follow your 'advise' and not IM you.

Simple said: yes record as much as you like, after all it's allowed. But publish, make public or anything else you are trying to get automaticly permission for... Can't do... Remember... You promised not to do that already.
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Dick McMinnar
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Join date: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 127
10-10-2009 19:27
From: Benski Trenkins
But publish, make public or anything else you are trying to get automaticly permission for... Can't do... Remember... You promised not to do that already.

Not quite true. You only aren't allowed to publish in SL or on serers controlled by LL. Anywhere else, they haz nu say oer it.
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Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine
“I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.”
Originally Posted by Lias Leandros
"In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
Ceka Cianci
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Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 4,489
10-10-2009 22:10
Actually they could Ban you for posting logs outside of an LL platform..
Remember they can ban you even if they feel like it for no reason at all..So if someone decides to post up something that someone has said in a log and they happen to be a good friend of a linden..It could still come back on them hehehehe ;)
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Ann Otoole
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Join date: 22 May 2007
Posts: 867
10-10-2009 22:25
From: Tegg Bode
"1) Whether you
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Wolfram and Hart Lawyers,

Representing our client Tegg Bode"

That will not fit in a profile pick.
Ann Otoole
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Join date: 22 May 2007
Posts: 867
10-10-2009 22:27
From: Ceka Cianci
Actually they could Ban you for posting logs outside of an LL platform..
Remember they can ban you even if they feel like it for no reason at all..So if someone decides to post up something that someone has said in a log and they happen to be a good friend of a linden..It could still come back on them hehehehe ;)

And if they had a fart detector they could ban you for farting at a gathering where the great leader Rosedale is speaking too.
Rhonda Huntress
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Join date: 21 Dec 2008
Posts: 1,823
10-10-2009 23:10
From: Argent Stonecutter
By IMing me you're giving consent to having your toes nibbled.

For free? Most people have to pay extra for that.
Dick McMinnar
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Join date: 27 Aug 2008
Posts: 127
10-11-2009 00:09
From: Ceka Cianci
Actually they could Ban you for posting logs outside of an LL platform..
Remember they can ban you even if they feel like it for no reason at all..So if someone decides to post up something that someone has said in a log and they happen to be a good friend of a linden..It could still come back on them hehehehe ;)

If you must look at it that way, yeah they could. Thay could also ban you for following the rules and not breaking a single one, een by accident.

I'm not gonna worry about *that*, that way lies madness.
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http://tinyurl.com/ml5x3u
Originally Posted by Stroker Serpentine
“I’m not some kind of noob,” Catteneo said. “My name isn’t on file. I don’t even have a permanent address either.”
Originally Posted by Lias Leandros
"In the United States the courts ruled no child is involved in avatar depictions on the internet. Wat are you talking about?"
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
10-11-2009 00:14
From: Ann Otoole
That will not fit in a profile pick.

No but it does fit in a Forum post.
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Ceka Cianci
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Posts: 4,489
10-11-2009 02:40
From: Dick McMinnar
If you must look at it that way, yeah they could. Thay could also ban you for following the rules and not breaking a single one, een by accident.

I'm not gonna worry about *that*, that way lies madness.

I'm just looking at them as human not as someone that doesn't play favorites..we all know they play favorites..
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Ceka Cianci
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10-11-2009 02:45
From: Ann Otoole
And if they had a fart detector they could ban you for farting at a gathering where the great leader Rosedale is speaking too.

i'm safe from that happening..it's not like i would ever go to one lol ;)
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Conifer Dada
Hiya m'dooks!
Join date: 6 Oct 2006
Posts: 3,716
10-11-2009 03:02
It's a bit pointless putting the TOS in picks in your profile because 99.999% of people you see won't read it anyway.
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Francesca Alva
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Join date: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 507
10-11-2009 04:46
From: Ceka Cianci
I was always told to never divide 0 with 0..Bad things will happen.


From: SuezanneC Baskerville
I don't think you are even supposed to say "divide 0 with 0".

What you heard must be true, because bad things are in fact happening.


I heard that if you look in a mirror and say "divide 0 with 0" three times, a Linden appears. But I think that MUST be an urban legend. If it were that easy to summon one ...
Francesca Alva
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Join date: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 507
10-11-2009 04:48
From: Desmond Shang
It's bollocks.




WOW! Is this really The Guvnah? /me rubs eyes in disbelief. But I agree!

/me picks up the teddy, the rattle and the dummy (pacifier to my US friends) and puts them back in the OP's pram
Francesca Alva
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Posts: 507
10-11-2009 05:16
From: Dick McMinnar
It's not "Dewey Cheatem & Howe"?


BWAHAHA!

Don't they act for that building firm, Reckitt, Bodgit & Scarper?
Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
10-11-2009 06:04
From: Francesca Alva
Don't they act for that building firm, Reckitt, Bodgit & Scarper?
Long-time Bostonians may remember "Boyd, Dewey, Cheatham & Howe," before that Unfortunate Incident involving the senior partner.
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Desmond Shang
Guvnah of Caledon
Join date: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 5,250
10-13-2009 09:11
From: Francesca Alva
WOW! Is this really The Guvnah? /me rubs eyes in disbelief. But I agree!

/me picks up the teddy, the rattle and the dummy (pacifier to my US friends) and puts them back in the OP's pram


Aye, I'm embarrassed to say that was me, alright. Was having a stupendously bad day, followed by much ridiculosity in reality that kept me busy for days. I think it's all settled now though.

Apologies to all, especially the original poster. While it's now utterly undeniable what I actually think about such commentary in profile picks, I didn't need to put it quite that way.

I'll do my best to keep things cheery :)
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RockAndRoll Michigan
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Join date: 23 Mar 2009
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10-13-2009 15:24
From: Mischievous Jinx
According to Linden Labs, disclosure of logs without prior consent in a violation of the ToS.

I am clearly stating to you, that by IM'ing me, having read or not having read these statements, you consent to being logged and that those logs can be used at my discretion without any further notice beyond these statements in this "Pick".


Simply by signing in to SL at all I've already consented to you logging anything I type in your presence. Voice is another legal issue altogether, however. So you don't need to even say anything about consent to be logged, that consent already exists.

Consent to use those logs at your discretion without any further notice than that statement in your picks? Even if they read the entry in your picks, no such consent still exists. If you wish to use those logs "at your discretion" you'd better make sure you get explicit consent, not any implied consent from any published statement. Otherwise there is no consent and nothing you say will ever change that basic fact.

From: Mischievous Jinx
Under NO circumstances whatsoever do I give anyone permission to record any conversation with myself. Doing so will be a direct violation of the terms of service agreement and will result in an abuse report.


Assuming such conversation is limited exclusively to text, you absolutely do give your permission to have conversations with you recorded. What's done with that info after it is recorded, is the real issue. Note that this does not extend to voice conversations, recording those is, again, an entirely different legal matter.

From: Mischievous Jinx
If you do NOT wish to be recorded, please let me know prior the conversation or do NOT message me.


This is actually the only part of this whole statement which has any place in your picks. The rest, as the esteemed Governor of Caledon has already stated, is bollocks.
Francesca Alva
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Join date: 17 Jul 2006
Posts: 507
10-13-2009 16:08
From: Desmond Shang
Aye, I'm embarrassed to say that was me, alright. Was having a stupendously bad day, followed by much ridiculosity in reality that kept me busy for days. I think it's all settled now though.


/me passes the Guvnah a tumbler of Caledon single malt.

From: Desmond Shang

Apologies to all, especially the original poster. While it's now utterly undeniable what I actually think about such commentary in profile picks, I didn't need to put it quite that way.

I'll do my best to keep things cheery :)


Guvnah Jekyll and Desmond Hyde, LOL
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