what do you think?

forget it

I do not feel like being attacked, if I could delete the thread I would...

sorry

*attacks you*


(But just because you told me not to. )

The Forum Owners should be the ones who decide, but obviously they don't care anymore. If a thread is in the wrong place , or annoys you, don't read it. Don't post in it. Let it drop off the front page.

This thread is exactly what the OP is complaining about.

The best General SL Forum I've found is @ http://www.sluniverse.com/php/

I'm afraid that in their infinite lack of wisdom, LL has abandoned these forums and they'll eventually go the way of the Dodo.

a conundrum wrapped inside a query wrapped inside an enigma.

actually THIS thread is a question thread... what do we do?
should we fear loss of the forums?

it is not an off topic thread

*sigh*

and I thought I asked nicely to not attack me...
(I should have known someone(s) would want to jab)

*sigh*

I did NOT attack you. Wow. Sorry I even said anything.

Did I miss something? Was there some news about the forums that's caused this to come up again?

I think things have been fairly civil and possibly even productive here lately.

I gave up thinking for Lent

oryx, by saying my own post is the kind that I am complaining about, is in my book an attack

not a flame but an attack

it is like a little dig saying look, she can't even follow her own rules...

oh well I am just gonna walk away, I removed my post, even though you quoted it

I removed the original and can only hope that this thread just dies quickly

(the reason I started it was to see if I am the only one worried about the directly of the forums)

oh well, they will go where ever they go

*walks away*
*rejoins RL*

on the surface civil yes

what happens behind closed doors though, only those involved know for sure....

Firstly, I hope that you will consider my questions or opinion to be just that. You are asking, so I am answering (Resident Answers).



I haven't personally found it difficult to get answers to questions I have posted in the past. I also find it quite easy to find questions that I am able to help with, in whatever small way that I can. Please describe what you mean by 'so hard to find', I don't really understand, (I want to understand).



There is a middle ground. i.e. We might all interpret the rules differently (grey areas), but there's no need for us to throw up our hands and say the hell with it. That seems a little extreme to me.



By all means, everyone should be able to give their opinion on a thread being allowed or not. But, IMO, giving ones opinion is one thing - posting said opinion ad nauseum on the same thread, then accusing those who disagree to be part of some clique, or worse, saying they are deliberately ignoring posts because they are not being acknowledged seems silly and pointless. Never shy away from posting an opinion, but one should accept that there will be different opinions out there.

Kudos to you Rhao, for posting a new thread and asking opinions. The only thing that bothered me in the other thread, was the fact that some spoke of things which had nothing to do with the original subject - whether said subject was 'allowed' or not.

HI there!
(I still see your little green light on...I SEE YOU!

sadly speaking out causes pain a lot of times to the speaker

hi GG

(seems removing my original post was a little too late as it has been quoted in parts now LOL)

Here is what I had orginally said...
(now I am gonna go rejoin real life so if I do not reply you all know why.)

after the big hooha about what should and should not be posted in the RA, I see more posts being put out there, that really do not belong in the RA....

I understand it is all nice and stuff to say good stuff or announce rez days or anniversarys of whatever type... (not directed at anyone in particular)
however one should remember what the RA is for... right?

PLEASE do not attack me... I am just trying desperately to make a point and hopefully try to get ppl to understand that we could slowly be digging our own forum graves....

I wish we had a general chat forum

It is so hard to find posts where ppl need help, without having to wade through a lot of fluff threads these days

Again please do not attack me, I do not want anymore im's or pm's whatever you want to call them. I am not a bad person, just a person who is fearing the loss of the forums due to ppl not keeping with the forum rules

I want to know what others think. Is the RA pretty much general discussions now? Should we try to follow the rules of the forum, or just throw up our hands and say the hell with it.

who decides what should be allowed and what should not?
If ppl are going to tell one person that their thread doesn't belong, is it fair if same said person doesn't point this out to other posters who start threads which by forums rules, do not belong here?

I want to know if I am alone in the fear of losing the forums.

I'm glad you re-posted your questions.

What in gads name has spooked you so? Attack is such a strong word for me, (could be a language thing, I don't know). You have the right to post and have questions and opinions, as does everyone else. Disagreeing with you does NOT equal attack. It simply means they have another opinion. Even if some answers may sound flippant to you, remember that we are all very different people, and that we express ourselves very differently.

A forum full of 'Isabeau' posters would be quite boring/dull/and long winded at times

I don't think so, Rha. Just because someone disagrees with you and says so, doesn't mean they are "attacking" you. If you didn't want debate, especially given the very active "ALT Party" thread, you shouldn't have posted as you did.

Yes, I'm concerned about the future of the forums, especially RA. I wish we had Strife back. I wish we had ANY moderator, to help keep us in line, but I think Strife managed a good balance between hewing to the forum guidelines and allowing a modicum of general discussion and banter. I understand that several people have volunteered, but LL hasn't taken any of them up on their offer. And where the hell is HidingUnderARock Linden, the Linden who was supposed to be tne new Official Moderator?

There wasn't anything in the ALT Party thread that was, in itself, wrong. Info about an upcoming Forum event? No problem. Input into how to run said event? Fine. Debate about the proper forum to put the post in? OK, we've done that often enough before. Disagreement? No problem there, we can't all expect to agree on everything. Witty digressions? Love them, they make me laugh.

The problem wasn't any of those things. The problem is that the thread went on, and on, and on...it wouldn't die, and nobody was willing to let anyone else have the last word. The longer it went on, the shorter everyone's temper became. Strife would've closed it down somewhere around Post 200, I'd guess.

Based on my One Year of Internet experience, I've found that for some, a difference of opinion is taken as an attack, all too often.

i want to go on record as fully agreeing with Rhaorth. i hate that this RA has turned into the Days of Our Lives, Dear Abby, and Probes into my private habits (from "researchers" and general questions about my favorite "whatever".

i like to come here to learn, and lurk other forums for general chat if i am so inclined.

once again, the idea of a forum cartel forum seperate from here seems to be a good idea. yes, i know there are other forums, but they are not "this one" with this group of people (which i realize changes and expands daily).

i want this place to be RA only, and i roll my eyes at more threads to the point that i am just pissy and grumpy and curt. i even quit the cartel membership because i couldn't stand the fact that it can't be seperated from this RA website.

socializing is a big part (the main part) of SL... but there simply must be a techincal forum for questions that are not specific (like textures, building, etc), and we have lost that now.

i don't understand why people can't take personal thoughts to PM or inworld or anther forum, and leave this place for RA.

Fear of the forums closing?

Much as it pains me to say it, I think it's inevitable.
LL has paid little attention to these forums for quite some time.
The code has been "temporarily" turned off for over a year (or close to it).
The replacement moderator LL hired to cover Strife's sabbatical is no longer with the company (unless I misunderstood that part)...anyone heard if another is scheduled to be placed?

Sadly, I seriously doubt there will be a "General Discussion" forum added...as much as this place needs one.

Hopefully, all of the good stickies from these forums have been posted in some kind of a wiki somewhere...and hopefully, so have all the wonderful script examples people have been so kind to put in the Scripting forum.
(no, I've not done any of that myself...after all, everyone would want it done right)

I'm just glad that people who use the advertising forums here haven't discovered that there is no mod, otherwise, we'd be spammed up to our nostrils in new shoe, dress, and sex toy announcements on a daily basis.

These may be the final days of the SL Official Forums...and more than likely, it won't be a noble death.

Hi Rha,

Your motive is a good one for writing this post, your heart is in the right place...I understand what you are saying.

At the moment, we are left on our own in the forums; LL is busy with other 'more important issues.'

We can only HOPE they do not rid us of the RA.

I think if I were them, when finally getting back to moderating the forum, they may simply move, or delete inappropriate threads rather than getting rid of whole forums such as RA.

They don’t seem to overly concerned right now. I think we are walking in dread for nothing. Personally my world wouldn't suddenly come to an end if the RA were no more. It would help matters if there was a separate General section, but we are not in any position to force their hand to create one.

My personal view is the more we make a big deal out of it the worse it gets. You know, it got so bad with me today, that I muted two people. I didn't want it to come to that, but oh well, when I cool off I will un-mute them.

Wither we realize it or not we are a sort of family, rather dysfunctional at times, but a family nevertheless. I have had to back away from several family members from time to time, but that doesn’t mean they are not still family. We eventually come back together and reconcile our differences.

My opinion, ignore the fluff if it annoys you, if we all tried to burn the fluff balls away, we would eventually burn the whole bed along with it.

Rha, you will always be my friend, I do not turn my back on my friends, remember that...

Here's what I think. If anyone disagrees or wants to beat up on me, have at it. First, I want to be clear that I'm not attacking you Rha. I don't know what IM's you're getting, but if they are abusive, then that's WAY out of line. I disagree with your position in that other thread, but that is not an attack. It's just two people with differing views on an issue, and I respect your view completely.

I still haven't seen a question go unanswered in RA. Every time this issue comes up, I challenge the poster to produce a single thread where a question went unanswered. Directing someone to a resource is answering the question, BTW. I'm also not having trouble finding question threads to answer, although finding questions that I actually have the knowledge to answer is a different matter altogether. I don't think that aspect has been neglected.

That said, your point is well-taken. LL decided at some point to do away with a general discussion forum. That was a terrible decision, but they are recalcitrant to go back on it and do the right thing. If they really want this forum used exclusively for resident answers, then we are headed for trouble, and I would hate to see the forums disappear, because they are a great resource for people and they represent a really wonderful community of people. Maybe we need to police ourselves better. In the past, threads were not derailed until a question had been thoroughly answered. Very few new threads were started that weren't legit questions. Strife tolerated Forum Hangout threads because the Hangout was specific to this forum and it was intended to be a help to newbies, forum lurkers and non-certel members. Please, I'm not trying to re-open that debate. I'm just establishing the parameters of what was allowed when we had a moderator.

I really, really wish we had a general discussion forum. This is the ONLY forum I have ever been on that doesn't. I can't believe a company like LL that prides itself on being so cutting edge can't do that or is so closed-minded that they don't want to see some negativity that might be posted there. But we don't have one, so we need to self-moderate a little more. We need to temper that with community and humor a little, however, because if this forum becomes deadly serious and exists for no other purpose than to answer questions - no Friday threads, derailments, goofy stuff - than I'm leaving, and I bet a lot of others will as well. The forums will die faster than if LL decides to pull the plug

There IS a Technical Issues forum, down below this one. Not a whole lot of people go there to answer questions.... I see about 5 people actively answering questions there.

oh.

what was the original purpose of RA then?