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Ciaran Laval

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01-12-2008 04:43

From: Cherry Czervik

I have expressions of disbelief about World of Warcraft, so that makes sense.

You've obviously never been in control of fear, immolate, conflagarate and shadow bolt!

Qie Niangao

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01-12-2008 04:45

Can't we all just chip-in, send the guy his L$30, and close the thread?

Cherry Czervik

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01-12-2008 04:49

From: Ciaran Laval

You've obviously never been in control of fear, immolate, conflagarate and shadow bolt!

Wanna bet? You don't live far enough away RL to ever want to find out!!!!!!!!!

**edit*** well no, not in WoW anyway. LOL.

Blake Dwi

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01-12-2008 04:50

Hey Qie, He would just come back with an ALT to commit more fraud! ROFL!

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-12-2008 04:55

From: Qie Niangao

Can't we all just chip-in, send the guy his L$30, and close the thread?

I offered him L$90,000 last night, if he told me the secret of ripping scripts as he said he would, and he didn't take it! So clearly he's not short of cash. Either that or he's just keeping the secret for himself, the cad.

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John Horner

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01-12-2008 04:57

From: Cherry Czervik

Tell you what. YOU become personally responsible for the overseeing and regulation of people trying to money launder huh. You think you can handle that?

Have a nice time in prison rl!!

I've spent 4 years in my RL job having at least partial responsibility for catching fraudsters and I train people how to detect fraudulent behaviour and I would never in a million years want to put my head on the chopping block.

So ... not to be QUITE so impolite as to say "deal with it and STFU" as was said elsewhere - what is in SL has ultimately got to be LEGAL outside SL.

LL are in no way liable for what has happened, on ANY level, with a transaction you have made with a "bank".

Not quite sure about that one Cherry

But......Linden Labs have sidestepped this issue by banning speculation type returns on "financial products" within SL, and require those who do advertize such products to be financially authorised in real life terms. Which is a good thing.

Hiro Queso

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01-12-2008 04:58

From: Ordinal Malaprop

I offered him L$90,000 last night, if he told me the secret of ripping scripts as he said he would, and he didn't take it! So clearly he's not short of cash. Either that or he's just keeping the secret for himself, the cad.

I'll add 90k, a la Dragon's Den, to that deal Ordinal, if you would be prepared to go 50:50 on the script ripper?

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-12-2008 05:03

From: Hiro Queso

I'll add 90k, a la Dragon's Den, to that deal Ordinal, if you would be prepared to go 50:50 on the script ripper?

Well, there's already an investment of 20K and one of 10K was offered after I last spoke to the chap, so there'll have to be some method of division.

What I thought was that we could each get a proportional number of bytes from each script ripped, randomly selected, so you'd get 50% of them. I considered doing it with lines but bytes would be easier to divide up.

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01-12-2008 05:07

From: Ordinal Malaprop

Well, there's already an investment of 20K and one of 10K was offered after I last spoke to the chap, so there'll have to be some method of division.

What I thought was that we could each get a proportional number of bytes from each script ripped, randomly selected, so you'd get 50% of them. I considered doing it with lines but bytes would be easier to divide up.

Well I was thinking of ripping the script of the script ripper and offering franchises

The only thing is, I'm a wee bit concerned that it doesn't exist

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01-12-2008 05:11

Inconceivable!

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Cherry Czervik

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01-12-2008 05:43

From: John Horner

Not quite sure about that one Cherry

But......Linden Labs have sidestepped this issue by banning speculation type returns on "financial products" within SL, and require those who do advertize such products to be financially authorised in real life terms. Which is a good thing.

OK I recant slightly on the last point, possibly, re not liable in any way ... you're right, there could be some loophole.

I couldn't agree more re regulation of anything which would and should be regulated RL. It's easy for me to say of course, I'm not in SL for money so it's all sort of passed me by really.

No doubt the day will come when my interests get the flamethrower - it's just a matter of time and the writing has been on the blog a while now...

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01-12-2008 05:43

so where's the frud??

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Phil Deakins

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01-12-2008 06:19

From: Tristin Mikazuki

It would be LL as the thief and the fraudster
btw I have already had my lawers start the paper work on it.

LOL!!!!!

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01-12-2008 06:36

From: Cherry Czervik

I have expressions of disbelief about World of Warcraft, so that makes sense.

He he.
I Take back everything I said about gentle mods:

*Reaches back to her Catholic School Days and falls to her knees: "Oh Dearest Moderator, You are so just and wise. We beseech Thee and Thy Grace, to give us strength to weather these assaults on our sanity, and for Thee to come with Thy Sacred Locking Implements, and to use them as Thou see fit in Thy Infinite Wisdom, to swiftly and mercifully cause those who would trespass against us to to Shut the Fucketh Up."

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01-12-2008 06:45

From: Ordinal Malaprop

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Erm, sorry....it's just some kind of reflex.....ummmm......

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01-12-2008 07:46

From: Nyoko Salome

so where's the frud??

Yeah frud sounds nice. Does it come in chocolate flavour?

Jezebella Desmoulins

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01-12-2008 08:05

Talk about Freud? I think he'd be impressed with all the sex toys in SL. Even though sometimes a poseball is just a poseball.

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01-12-2008 08:09

From: Tristin Mikazuki

This is in responce to a ticket I sent in WOW talke about fraid LL have fallen BIG time THEY have become the crooks.. I would REALLY suggest that no one put any cahs into SL...they reall have become crooks in a BIG way

Its to bad really SL was really a great place for a really long time...noot eLL is just a bunch of thievs

Solved:
(1/11/2008 9:13 PM PDT) Greetings,

Some may argue that Residents who deposit L$ with these “banks” must know they’re assuming a big risk – the high interest rates promised aren’t guaranteed, and the banks aren’t overseen by Linden Lab or anyone else. That may be true. But for all of the other reasons we’ve set out above, we can’t let this activity continue.

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01-12-2008 08:18

From: Jezebella Desmoulins

Talk about Freud? I think he'd be impressed with all the sex toys in SL. Even though sometimes a poseball is just a poseball.

This about a man obsessed with incest and with no nose left from snorting toot ... do we care? *G*

***edit*** oh you said he WOULD be. LOL. Yeah he probably would have been.

Qie Niangao

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01-12-2008 08:35

From: Alyx Sands

From: Ordinal Malaprop

Inconceivable!

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Oh. So we're not questioning the OP's fertility?

Brenda Connolly

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01-12-2008 08:36

From: Qie Niangao

Oh. So we're not questioning the OP's fertility?

he he. *throws Qie a handful of change*

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Bruise Shepherd

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01-12-2008 08:43

From: Brenda Connolly

*Reaches back to her Catholic School Days and falls to her knees: "Oh Dearest"

So Zappa had it right about Catholic Girls?

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01-12-2008 08:44

From: Tristin Mikazuki

It would be LL as the thief and the fraudster
btw I have already had my lawers start the paper work on it.
O did ya know that LL can get audited for the taxes to.. ofcourse that would screw everone over.. but it is something I would do if nothing eles works

:lol: you do know how to talk bollocks don't you.

You "invested" in a ponzi scheme. They are illegal and LL quite rightly is shutting them down. If the person running the scheme (the owner of the "bank"

doesn't pay you, then they are the fraudsters, NOT LL.

Your lawsuit will be laughed out of court.

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01-12-2008 09:04

From: Bruise Shepherd

So Zappa had it right about Catholic Girls?

I was expecting someone to bite on that setup. But I must say, You weren't on my short list at all. Well played , sir.
*Joe's Garage is my favorite Zappa work*

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01-12-2008 09:14

*ponders* After all the posts about Ginko, after all the posts about people not getting their money back, after all the complaints that SL banks are just frauds, someone still had to be silly enough to give a complete stranger their money and have the stupidity to expect that money back and then some.

If this was a cartoon, I'd start checking for anvil shadow..

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Ciaran Laval Mostly Harmless Join date: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 7,951	01-12-2008 04:43 From: Cherry Czervik I have expressions of disbelief about World of Warcraft, so that makes sense. You've obviously never been in control of fear, immolate, conflagarate and shadow bolt!
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	01-12-2008 04:45 Can't we all just chip-in, send the guy his L$30, and close the thread?
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-12-2008 04:49 From: Ciaran Laval You've obviously never been in control of fear, immolate, conflagarate and shadow bolt! Wanna bet? You don't live far enough away RL to ever want to find out!!!!!!!!! edit* well no, not in WoW anyway. LOL.
Blake Dwi Reading Daily... Join date: 6 Dec 2006 Posts: 105	01-12-2008 04:50 Hey Qie, He would just come back with an ALT to commit more fraud! ROFL!
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-12-2008 04:55 From: Qie Niangao Can't we all just chip-in, send the guy his L$30, and close the thread? I offered him L$90,000 last night, if he told me the secret of ripping scripts as he said he would, and he didn't take it! So clearly he's not short of cash. Either that or he's just keeping the secret for himself, the cad. _____________________ http://ordinalmalaprop.com/forum/ - visit Ordinal's Scripting Colloquium for scripting discussion with actual working BBCode! http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/ - An Engine Fit For My Proceeding, my Aethernet Journal http://www.flickr.com/groups/slgriefbuild/ - Second Life Griefbuild Digest, pictures of horrible ad griefing and land spam, and the naming of names
John Horner Registered User Join date: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 626	01-12-2008 04:57 From: Cherry Czervik Tell you what. YOU become personally responsible for the overseeing and regulation of people trying to money launder huh. You think you can handle that? Have a nice time in prison rl!! I've spent 4 years in my RL job having at least partial responsibility for catching fraudsters and I train people how to detect fraudulent behaviour and I would never in a million years want to put my head on the chopping block. So ... not to be QUITE so impolite as to say "deal with it and STFU" as was said elsewhere - what is in SL has ultimately got to be LEGAL outside SL. LL are in no way liable for what has happened, on ANY level, with a transaction you have made with a "bank". Not quite sure about that one Cherry But......Linden Labs have sidestepped this issue by banning speculation type returns on "financial products" within SL, and require those who do advertize such products to be financially authorised in real life terms. Which is a good thing.
Hiro Queso 503less Join date: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,753	01-12-2008 04:58 From: Ordinal Malaprop I offered him L$90,000 last night, if he told me the secret of ripping scripts as he said he would, and he didn't take it! So clearly he's not short of cash. Either that or he's just keeping the secret for himself, the cad. I'll add 90k, a la Dragon's Den, to that deal Ordinal, if you would be prepared to go 50:50 on the script ripper?
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-12-2008 05:03 From: Hiro Queso I'll add 90k, a la Dragon's Den, to that deal Ordinal, if you would be prepared to go 50:50 on the script ripper? Well, there's already an investment of 20K and one of 10K was offered after I last spoke to the chap, so there'll have to be some method of division. What I thought was that we could each get a proportional number of bytes from each script ripped, randomly selected, so you'd get 50% of them. I considered doing it with lines but bytes would be easier to divide up. _____________________ http://ordinalmalaprop.com/forum/ - visit Ordinal's Scripting Colloquium for scripting discussion with actual working BBCode! http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/ - An Engine Fit For My Proceeding, my Aethernet Journal http://www.flickr.com/groups/slgriefbuild/ - Second Life Griefbuild Digest, pictures of horrible ad griefing and land spam, and the naming of names
Hiro Queso 503less Join date: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,753	01-12-2008 05:07 From: Ordinal Malaprop Well, there's already an investment of 20K and one of 10K was offered after I last spoke to the chap, so there'll have to be some method of division. What I thought was that we could each get a proportional number of bytes from each script ripped, randomly selected, so you'd get 50% of them. I considered doing it with lines but bytes would be easier to divide up. Well I was thinking of ripping the script of the script ripper and offering franchises The only thing is, I'm a wee bit concerned that it doesn't exist
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-12-2008 05:11 Inconceivable! _____________________ http://ordinalmalaprop.com/forum/ - visit Ordinal's Scripting Colloquium for scripting discussion with actual working BBCode! http://ordinalmalaprop.com/engine/ - An Engine Fit For My Proceeding, my Aethernet Journal http://www.flickr.com/groups/slgriefbuild/ - Second Life Griefbuild Digest, pictures of horrible ad griefing and land spam, and the naming of names
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-12-2008 05:43 From: John Horner Not quite sure about that one Cherry But......Linden Labs have sidestepped this issue by banning speculation type returns on "financial products" within SL, and require those who do advertize such products to be financially authorised in real life terms. Which is a good thing. OK I recant slightly on the last point, possibly, re not liable in any way ... you're right, there could be some loophole. I couldn't agree more re regulation of anything which would and should be regulated RL. It's easy for me to say of course, I'm not in SL for money so it's all sort of passed me by really. No doubt the day will come when my interests get the flamethrower - it's just a matter of time and the writing has been on the blog a while now...
Nyoko Salome kittytailmeowmeow Join date: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,378	01-12-2008 05:43 so where's the frud?? _____________________ Nyoko's Bodyoils @ Nyoko's Wears http://slurl.com/secondlife/Centaur/126/251/734/ http://home.comcast.net/~nyoko.salome2/nyokosWears/index.html "i don't spend nearly enough time on the holodeck. i should go there more often and relax." - deanna troi
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	01-12-2008 06:19 From: Tristin Mikazuki It would be LL as the thief and the fraudster btw I have already had my lawers start the paper work on it. LOL!!!!!
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	01-12-2008 06:36 From: Cherry Czervik I have expressions of disbelief about World of Warcraft, so that makes sense. He he. I Take back everything I said about gentle mods: *Reaches back to her Catholic School Days and falls to her knees: "Oh Dearest Moderator, You are so just and wise. We beseech Thee and Thy Grace, to give us strength to weather these assaults on our sanity, and for Thee to come with Thy Sacred Locking Implements, and to use them as Thou see fit in Thy Infinite Wisdom, to swiftly and mercifully cause those who would trespass against us to to Shut the Fucketh Up." Or send in Brother Maynard with the Holy Hand Grenade. Amen. Dominos,Dominos,Pizza Hut. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Alyx Sands Mental Mentor Linguist Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,432	01-12-2008 06:45 From: Ordinal Malaprop Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Erm, sorry....it's just some kind of reflex.....ummmm...... hides behind her scholarly books, making sure no one sees her collection of weird 80s films _____________________ ~~I'm a linguist. RL sucks, but right now it's decided to be a little less nasty to me - you can still be nice to me if you want! ~~ ->Potestatem obscuri lateris nescitis.<-
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-12-2008 07:46 From: Nyoko Salome so where's the frud?? Yeah frud sounds nice. Does it come in chocolate flavour?
Jezebella Desmoulins Registered User Join date: 4 Nov 2005 Posts: 561	01-12-2008 08:05 Talk about Freud? I think he'd be impressed with all the sex toys in SL. Even though sometimes a poseball is just a poseball.
ZsuZsanna Raven ~:+: Supah Kitteh :+:~ Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,361	01-12-2008 08:09 From: Tristin Mikazuki This is in responce to a ticket I sent in WOW talke about fraid LL have fallen BIG time THEY have become the crooks.. I would REALLY suggest that no one put any cahs into SL...they reall have become crooks in a BIG way Its to bad really SL was really a great place for a really long time...noot eLL is just a bunch of thievs Solved: (1/11/2008 9:13 PM PDT) Greetings, Some may argue that Residents who deposit L$ with these “banks” must know they’re assuming a big risk – the high interest rates promised aren’t guaranteed, and the banks aren’t overseen by Linden Lab or anyone else. That may be true. But for all of the other reasons we’ve set out above, we can’t let this activity continue. _____________________ ~Mewz!~
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-12-2008 08:18 From: Jezebella Desmoulins Talk about Freud? I think he'd be impressed with all the sex toys in SL. Even though sometimes a poseball is just a poseball. This about a man obsessed with incest and with no nose left from snorting toot ... do we care? G *edit* oh you said he WOULD be. LOL. Yeah he probably would have been.
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	01-12-2008 08:35 From: Alyx Sands From: Ordinal Malaprop Inconceivable! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Oh. So we're not questioning the OP's fertility?
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	01-12-2008 08:36 From: Qie Niangao Oh. So we're not questioning the OP's fertility? he he. throws Qie a handful of change _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Bruise Shepherd just passing through Join date: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 118	01-12-2008 08:43 From: Brenda Connolly *Reaches back to her Catholic School Days and falls to her knees: "Oh Dearest" So Zappa had it right about Catholic Girls? _____________________
Bee Mizser Registered User Join date: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 329	01-12-2008 08:44 From: Tristin Mikazuki It would be LL as the thief and the fraudster btw I have already had my lawers start the paper work on it. O did ya know that LL can get audited for the taxes to.. ofcourse that would screw everone over.. but it is something I would do if nothing eles works :lol: you do know how to talk bollocks don't you. You "invested" in a ponzi scheme. They are illegal and LL quite rightly is shutting them down. If the person running the scheme (the owner of the "bank" doesn't pay you, then they are the fraudsters, NOT LL. Your lawsuit will be laughed out of court.
Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	01-12-2008 09:04 From: Bruise Shepherd So Zappa had it right about Catholic Girls? I was expecting someone to bite on that setup. But I must say, You weren't on my short list at all. Well played , sir. Joe's Garage is my favorite Zappa work _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	01-12-2008 09:14 ponders After all the posts about Ginko, after all the posts about people not getting their money back, after all the complaints that SL banks are just frauds, someone still had to be silly enough to give a complete stranger their money and have the stupidity to expect that money back and then some. If this was a cartoon, I'd start checking for anvil shadow.. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?

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