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logoff vs. TP

Lou Laa
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01-15-2008 18:17
Are you applying for the position Tiana? /me winks :)
Callila Lilliehook
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01-15-2008 18:33
Our relationship has ended because of this.

You have to be kidding. Boy, is she shallow and confused. You are better off without here.

Just my two cents.

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Dana Hickman
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01-15-2008 18:57
The key to instantly knowing whether or not someone truly logged off, or TP'ed away and hid you from seeing them online is the ORDER in which you get the 'user is offline' message.
A true logoff, as mentioned earlier, will have the account server finish and broadcast the 'user is offline' message BEFORE the region has time to remove the avitar from view and it disappears. This is why when a sim is real slow or never finishes with this last step in the logout process, you get the 'region still logging you off' message, and is also why people's AV's get stuck inworld.
A faked logoff, on the other hand, would be when you get the 'user is offline' message AFTER their avitar disappears. No form of lag or messup or whatever could cause the sim to derez the avitar first when the sim must wait for the 'offline' broadcast and then be told to remove the AV as the very last step.

Offline message before poof = logout.
Offline message after poof = someone doesn't want to be seen by you.
Lou Laa
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01-15-2008 19:01
well ok this thread is a bit off the rails. My intentions were not to discuss the relationship but to ask about the particles. Another related issus is the fact the windlight wont keep me preferances all of a sudden.One the reasons she pointed out was that my particles changes colour from red(my pref) to the default white and that was an indivcator that I wasnt reaaly logging out but tping and pretending to log.
I tis hard to use windlight when I have to redo all the preferances over each time.
Lou Laa
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01-15-2008 19:03
Interesting Dana but I assure you and her that I was indeed logging off. I f I wanted to hide from here like that I would logon an alt right?
Dmitriy Gausman
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01-15-2008 19:13
Well, first, I would have gotten on my avatar knees and promised to try and logoff better. I would have said that we are not all perfect, and if the swirly particles is what she wanted, then I really would do all I could to make it happen. "Sweety, I will hire a scripter first thing in the morning, I promise".

Then of course, there is always TP counseling, either alone or as a couple.

Or maybe even never logging off. This creates a bit of a problem considering we all crash about 5 times a day. I can only imagine the anxiety that is caused during some of the recent 2 minute freezes - wondering if someone had really slipped out to have an affair before the screen normalizes.

Maybe promise to turn off the modem so she can ping you to make sure you are not online.

Get a webcam and leave it on 24/7, and get an excuse letter from the electric company in the event power is lost.

There are so many solutions. I just wish people could take more time to work out their problems. Life is so short.


:-)
Har Fairweather
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01-15-2008 19:19
Let's see:

Drama queen? Check.
Hostility issues? Check
Demonstrably a lot less than bright? Check.
Presents paranoid or delusory behaviors? Check.
Dumps you for little or no reason? Check.

The particles question is a more interesting question than whether you should give this bundles of neuroses a second thought, other than to think over whatever caused you to make the mistake of hooking up with her in the first place.

Yep, move on, and here's a helpful hint. Look for all four S's this time: Sweet, Smart, Sexy and Submissive. I'll charitably assume she exhibited Sexy here, but even if so, she sure lacked the other three.
Dana Hickman
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01-15-2008 19:20
From: Lou Laa
Interesting Dana but I assure you and her that I was indeed logging off. I f I wanted to hide from here like that I would logon an alt right?

The particles don't really mean anything. It's a very last second command that makes those particles. If your computer lags or the internet lags or the sim lags or you're too far logged off already, the sim MAY in fact hear the command for particles, but NOT be able to REread your preferences before you're gone. That can result in the sim using default preferences (color) for the particles, or NO particles at all.
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01-15-2008 19:28
On bad SL days, I've also not gotten the "is offline" message when IM'ing someone that has logged out. Typically those are also days when I have (hippos) sitting on my friends...
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Dana Hickman
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01-15-2008 19:38
From: Beezle Warburton
On bad SL days, I've also not gotten the "is offline" message when IM'ing someone that has logged out. Typically those are also days when I have (hippos) sitting on my friends...

Haha well then if you yourself are having bad lag or connect problems then all bets are off... trust nothing lol.
Drivin Sideways
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01-16-2008 00:25
FIrst of all .. about the girl... it's been covered. Psycho Hose Beast, better gone.

One problem with Dana's post:

From: Dana Hickman
The key to instantly knowing whether or not someone truly logged off, or TP'ed away and hid you from seeing them online is the ORDER in which you get the 'user is offline' message.
A true logoff, as mentioned earlier, will have the account server finish and broadcast the 'user is offline' message BEFORE the region has time to remove the avitar from view and it disappears. This is why when a sim is real slow or never finishes with this last step in the logout process, you get the 'region still logging you off' message, and is also why people's AV's get stuck inworld.
A faked logoff, on the other hand, would be when you get the 'user is offline' message AFTER their avitar disappears. No form of lag or messup or whatever could cause the sim to derez the avitar first when the sim must wait for the 'offline' broadcast and then be told to remove the AV as the very last step.

Offline message before poof = logout.
Offline message after poof = someone doesn't want to be seen by you.



Is that many ppl have a logout routine, as was covred in a thread here some weeks ago. LOTS of folks (myself included) like to TP home before they log out.

When I announce inworld that I'm logging off, that means I'm going to TP home, do a few other simple things, and THEN log off. Therefore I disappear, with theOffline message following in a few seconds. No deception involved.
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Lou Laa
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01-16-2008 00:55
nods. but see I am at home when I log and she is with me...
Lexi Moulliez
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01-16-2008 12:32
I actually had the same problem with my ex SL partner. I was constantly accused of not actually logging out when all he had to do was check my group status. We had seperate homes but he would go to my house daily to see whose name was on my security visitor list. I was afraid to have anyone visit and even the casual passerby would show up on it. He would check my groups to see when I last logged on and I would really catch hell if it was the day after we had last spoken, he never quite understood that it was after midnight when I would log off which would show the next days date. It got crazy and it was just no fun to constantly be accused of this. I had no other friends besides him because I was afraid he would harass them too about their relationship with me. It was a nightmare to finally break free of him but I can finally do things in SL that I've always wanted to.
Zumpkin Barbosa
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01-16-2008 14:09
Im no SL relationship counselor but damn... if this is at all an issue my advice is RUN! I guess someone from the outside cant really understand what keeps 2 people together but seriously how good can it be when you cant trust the other person with the simplest of things?
Miko Masukami
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01-16-2008 15:06
Well if I was doing things like that It Wouldn't be so bad that she is freaked but I am totally innocent of the things I am getting accused of so it's hard to deal with.
Thanks for all your opinions.
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01-16-2008 15:08
From: Miko Masukami
Well if I was doing things like that It Wouldn't be so bad that she is freaked but I am totally innocent of the things I am getting accused of so it's hard to deal with.
Thanks for all your opinions.


*blinks and tries to figure out where she got lost* Um....*bites lip and just stays quiet*
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Miko Masukami
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01-16-2008 15:10
oops I was logged in under my wifes account
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Lou Laa
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01-16-2008 15:12
oops I posted with my wifes account...
Colette Meiji
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01-16-2008 15:14
From: Cristalle Karami
I'm going to be a little callous but some people are really slow, and reasoning with them is extremely difficult because they make assumptions based on incomplete facts and get the wrong thing in their heads, especially on hot-button issues. Then you are no longer dealing with a rational person, but are fighting emotional reasoning, and until they actually learn what you try to tell them, it's a lost cause.

Or maybe she was looking for a way out.


that and she is loopy.
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