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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 11:50
I have a friend who is seeing someone and there are times when he is not online for several days...sometimes it may be an entire week. She goes to check his IM's during this time ... to see if he has read them ... and her IM's are still there. She may go back in a few days and the IM's are gone yet she can check his groups and see he has not logged in since the last time she saw him.
Now I know you can reply to IM's from your email but...when you come back...those IM's are still there. How the heck can you clear IM's when you apparently do not log in? I know you can hide your log in from people but would it not show in the groups?
Thank you in advance Star
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Brieanne Bomazi
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08-02-2009 12:06
From: FlamingStar Ceriano I have a friend who is seeing someone and there are times when he is not online for several days...sometimes it may be an entire week. She goes to check his IM's during this time ... to see if he has read them ... and her IM's are still there. She may go back in a few days and the IM's are gone yet she can check his groups and see he has not logged in since the last time she saw him.
Now I know you can reply to IM's from your email but...when you come back...those IM's are still there. How the heck can you clear IM's when you apparently do not log in? I know you can hide your log in from people but would it not show in the groups?
Thank you in advance Star Hows she checking his ims? and if they cap, sometimes they no longer show... need more info  ~brie
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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 12:10
She just clicks on his name in her contacts list and it shows the IM's that have been there.
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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 12:10
She just clicks on his name in her contacts list and it shows the IM's that have been there. If they were capped she would get that message when she leaves him one...never gets that
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Brieanne Bomazi
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08-02-2009 12:16
From: FlamingStar Ceriano She just clicks on his name in her contacts list and it shows the IM's that have been there. If they were capped she would get that message when she leaves him one...never gets that Not correct. You can leave someone 462394726 messages, and cap them out, and you won't get a message that says they aren't receiving them. You only get that message when you log in and YOUR ims are capped. That's why so many merchants etc suggest dropping note cards on them, they have those waiting in their inventory when they log back in. She's not missing anything, simply a Sl glitch. She has no way of knowing how many IM's he has while he is offline unless he tells her.. or they use RLV and she actually see's his IMs.  ~Brie
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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 12:23
Whoa...she never said she saw all of his IM's...she only sees the ones she leaves. If his IM's were capped then she would get the message each time she tried to leave him one. She has never once gotten this message
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Ceka Cianci
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08-02-2009 12:26
From: FlamingStar Ceriano I have a friend who is seeing someone and there are times when he is not online for several days...sometimes it may be an entire week. She goes to check his IM's during this time ... to see if he has read them ... and her IM's are still there. She may go back in a few days and the IM's are gone yet she can check his groups and see he has not logged in since the last time she saw him.
Now I know you can reply to IM's from your email but...when you come back...those IM's are still there. How the heck can you clear IM's when you apparently do not log in? I know you can hide your log in from people but would it not show in the groups?
Thank you in advance Star Is she logging into his account to check his IM's? Once you check the IM's and log off thats it..They go away..Unless you have IM history on.. She can't check from her account to see if he has ever received them or not. Sounds like she is logging into his account from how you worded this.. If she looks at the IM's and then logs off they will be gone the next login.. i may be misunderstanding your wording but that is how it sounds to me hehehe
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Tali Rosca
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08-02-2009 12:46
Do you mean opening an IM window to somebody and seeing the last couple of lines written? I don't think what's shown there has anything to do with what the receiver has or has not read; it's just a local history stored on your computer.
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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 12:53
OK let's do it this way...he has been offline for 5 days. My friend has logged into his account to see if he has come online and read any of her IM's. She can still see the conversation they had on the 27th in his IM history along with the IM's she has left him.
What she does not understand is this...if she gets no message that his IM's are capped when she leaves him one ... how is her IM history being removed when he is not logging in? Can he log in as an alt and clear out his IM history? I don't think this is possible but...I'm just curious.
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Osprey Therian
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08-02-2009 13:03
Your friend needs to back off.
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Ceka Cianci
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08-02-2009 13:06
From: FlamingStar Ceriano OK let's do it this way...he has been offline for 5 days. My friend has logged into his account to see if he has come online and read any of her IM's. She can still see the conversation they had on the 27th in his IM history along with the IM's she has left him.
What she does not understand is this...if she gets no message that his IM's are capped when she leaves him one ... how is her IM history being removed when he is not logging in? Can he log in as an alt and clear out his IM history? I don't think this is possible but...I'm just curious. IM history will only hold so much then it gets overwritten with however long the last message was.. so it only has a limited amount of characters it will hold.. depending on the last message and how long it was will determine how much of the message or messages from before that will remain.. about the only way to clear IM history is to shut it off i believe..and i don't think you have to log in to do that..you can do it from preferences at the login screen.. so really the only one that can wash the IM history would be you with sending more IM's to him if he has IM history on..
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-02-2009 13:12
From: FlamingStar Ceriano Whoa...she never said she saw all of his IM's...she only sees the ones she leaves. If his IM's were capped then she would get the message each time she tried to leave him one. She has never once gotten this message No, she will never ever get a message stating his IMs are capped. The IMs she is seeing are the ones she sends him and they are being stored in her chat/IM logs,which she can enable/disable via the preferences. When you pull up the IM window, you will get, by default, a certain amount of the previous stuff -- this does not have anything to do with whether or not he has read the IMs. There is absolutely no way for her to know if he has read them or not.
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-02-2009 13:15
From: FlamingStar Ceriano OK let's do it this way...he has been offline for 5 days. My friend has logged into his account to see if he has come online and read any of her IM's. She can still see the conversation they had on the 27th in his IM history along with the IM's she has left him. Is she actually logging in as his account (i.e. using his id and password) or is she logging in and then pulling up the IM window for him? As mentioned by a few, the IM window will maintain a history of stuff typed in to it if you have logging turned on. As far as I know, there is not way to control the amount of history and it in no way relates to whether or not the other person has read any of those messages. BTW - if the answer is that she truly is logging in to his account, then she is violated the TOS.
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Ceka Cianci
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08-02-2009 13:48
Ya basically he will never get those IM''s now unless he has chat history on..
So looking at them she is actually clearing them for him..That and he can tell if she is snooping in his IM's if he does have logs on..All he would have to do is check his logs to see if she is still checking his IM's..As soon as she logs on his account the IM's add to the logs..
A lot of people don't realize one thing when they take information from someone so they can log into another account.. That if you piss that person off that gave you the information..They can make a call to LL saying their account was hacked...and if there is a way to show that you logged into that account you could put your own account at risk..So i would tell your friend it is a bit risky to go looking at other peoples stuff..
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Dante Tucker
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08-02-2009 13:50
Watch where you step. This thread is littered with mis-information.
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Ceka Cianci
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08-02-2009 13:58
From: Dante Tucker Watch where you step. This thread is littered with mis-information. i just realized his logs wouldn't change would they unless he logs into it himself? would they go into her log files ?
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LittleMe Jewell
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08-02-2009 14:14
Assuming that she logs in using his avi name from her computer, there will be a new folder with that avi name created down in the SecondLife folder.
However, she really might just be logging in normally and calling up the IM window for him and seeing a bit of the history that will stay there.
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Mickey Vandeverre
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08-02-2009 14:25
Your "friend" has a much larger issue than whether or not he checks her IMs.
If I ever found out that someone was obsessing to the point that you described.....there will be NO MORE IMs EVER.
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Tiffy Vella
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08-02-2009 17:04
From: Mickey Vandeverre Your "friend" has a much larger issue than whether or not he checks her IMs.
If I ever found out that someone was obsessing to the point that you described.....there will be NO MORE IMs EVER. /me nods..This would creep me right out and send me running away very very fast.
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Briana Dawson
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08-02-2009 17:14
i have to pee really badly.
and i have been drinking alkeehall.
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Ceka Cianci
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08-02-2009 17:33
From: Briana Dawson i have to pee really badly.
and i have been drinking alkeehall. Then you need to watch this!! hurry before it's too late! hehehehehe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1LZVmn3p3o
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Brieanne Bomazi
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08-02-2009 18:03
From: Dante Tucker Watch where you step. This thread is littered with mis-information. The misinformation comes from the OP. Lets set it all straight, K? K. 1. if she is logging in as him to see if he has gotten her ims, that is A. Creepy, and B. against the TOS. 2. If she is logging in as herself and opening an IM to him, she see's what is stored on HER local system to him. She can send him 100 messages a day. She will not, ever, not even once, get a message to HER saying HIS ims are capped. All she is doing by opening IMs to him repeatedly is filling her own log files with him being offline. 3. There is no way to clear IMs using an alt. None. Nada. Zilch. 4. If he is logging in, and has hidden himself from her, any groups they are BOTH in will show her his last log-in date. That can't be hidden in any way, shape, form or fashion other than LEAVING the groups. 5. If she is logging in as him, and clearing his IMS, unless he has his IM log on, and IM's to email, he will NEVER know she did this, because once she opens it on her system, it will name a new folder to his name in her local cache log files. Sounds to me like she either needs to get a grip, or get a man that can be in game more often. If she doesn't trust him... what's the point? ~Brie
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Malia Writer
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08-02-2009 19:35
From: Mickey Vandeverre Your "friend" has a much larger issue than whether or not he checks her IMs.
If I ever found out that someone was obsessing to the point that you described.....there will be NO MORE IMs EVER. Um, yeah. That. From: Brieanne Bomazi 1. if she is logging in as him to see if he has gotten her ims, that is A. Creepy, and B. against the TOS. And that. If your "friend" logs in as him and clears his IM's, then she shouldn't be too surprised that he hasn't read them. Also... if he was offline for several days, and he hadn't checked his IM's... maybe it's because he was OFFLINE for several days? Now there's a thought.
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Briana Dawson
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08-02-2009 19:43
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FlamingStar Ceriano
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08-02-2009 20:44
The misinformation comes from the OP.
Lets set it all straight, K? K.
1. if she is logging in as him to see if he has gotten her ims, that is A. Creepy, and B. against the TOS.
2. If she is logging in as herself and opening an IM to him, she see's what is stored on HER local system to him. She can send him 100 messages a day. She will not, ever, not even once, get a message to HER saying HIS ims are capped. All she is doing by opening IMs to him repeatedly is filling her own log files with him being offline.
3. There is no way to clear IMs using an alt. None. Nada. Zilch.
4. If he is logging in, and has hidden himself from her, any groups they are BOTH in will show her his last log-in date. That can't be hidden in any way, shape, form or fashion other than LEAVING the groups.
5. If she is logging in as him, and clearing his IMS, unless he has his IM log on, and IM's to email, he will NEVER know she did this, because once she opens it on her system, it will name a new folder to his name in her local cache log files.
Sounds to me like she either needs to get a grip, or get a man that can be in game more often. If she doesn't trust him... what's the point?
~Brie
1. She is NOT logging in as him she is logging in as HERSELF. She is viewing HER IM's ... no one else's.
2. She never said she gets a message saying IM's have been capped. It is possible to get this message as I have a friend who was offline for several weeks ... sent him/her a IM and got the message...
3. They both belong to the same group and it shows him not being online in the time frame that his messages have been cleared...duh...hence the reason for the question.
4. She is so not logging in on his account and clearing his IM's...does not know how to do this and does not care.
5. She has left him...she is not stupid and knows he is not worth her time. She was just wanting to know how IM's could be cleared when not online. And also...you can answer your IM's via your email but they will still be there waiting the next time you log in. I answer mine all the time via email and when I log in .... there they are waiting for me.
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