61,000+ online

A new record?

of bots, yes

I'm only responsible for 61,000 of them - the + part must be other people's. So it's not my fault if the grid buckles under the strain

I resent that

I may be a TOOL

But I`m not a Bot

Oh good Gods Did I say that out loud?

Phil I'm so proud of you. You knew someone was going to blame you so you beat them to the punch.

Lol

Good record! congrat!

Damn...........I missed it. I wanted to see what the lag would be.

Drat. I missed it too. Based on my experience last night, they were probably all at the ETD/Last Call sale.

30,000 first main accounts (IF THAT ) Rest BOTS..............boring......................OMG this sounds like a RR M (sorry dont want to even post that silly person name)PR joke of a forum call. HHAHAHah

[Citation needed]

Someone try to be funny?

Actually I didn't notice any difference in lag. It was as laggy as usual

Oh hell I meant to go to that sale too ... rats ... had too much happening

No. I really don't think you have any sources to back up your claim. If you do, let's have them. If not, why make the claim?

With LL not really providing numbers on the number of bots that are in-world, people can make up any numbers they want. There _are_ a lot of bots online at any time but I think most of the numbers seen around here are pretty inflated.

Would someone please define a bot for me. I've always thought a "bot" was short for robot........something not human. Applied to a virtual "being" that, to me, means something other than a real avatar. So an SL bot would would be some sort of animated object that's dumbly drifting around the grid or maybe just staying in one place. One of those automated greeters you see on occassion at various clubs and shops fits my idea of a bot in SL. And to be honest the number of those bots doesn't come anywhere close to being a substanial impact in the world. Besides those do not count as an online avatar anymore than all those buildings/shops/clubs/malls etc. Now, if the definition of a "bot" in SL has changed to what it appears to have been and changed to mean any avatar in world that the person behind that avatar has just logged in and left to go to work or to bed or to go real life shopping or visiting then that is something else entirely.........not sure "bot" fits though.

Regardless.........the reason for my requesting a definition is that if that definition is the latter then it totally impossible to estimate how many "bots" (or percentage of bots) are in world at any given moment. Everyone of us are guilty of being a bot at some time when we are in world. If you are logged in right now and on the forums.......you are a bot. Get up to go the the bathroom, you are a bot. Answer your phone, go get your snail mail, feed your dog, fix lunch.........anything that takes you away from tending to your avatar that is in world.

But somehow I think people are talking about the folks who camp. Which is perfectly legal in SL. Many people do that. Some even make a decent amount of lindens doing that. It's actually almost required for newbies coming into SL since they have not even a single linden to their name. We have a thread going right now about have you ever camped......I think it's clear most have at one time or another. So, I'm curious........are we talking about campers when we talk about "bots"? If we are then all those bots are real avatars in world and it is legimate to count them as concurrent users online. It's an avatar created by some human and it is logged in.

Sounds like you are being deliberately obtuse to some extent.


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One person setting their avatar up on a camp pad and going to bed for the night ==>> Not running a Bot.

One person setting up 3 avatars up on a camp pad and going to bed for the night ==>> running camp bots.

One person logging in 10 Avatars in a box above Phil's land ====> running traffic bots.

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One person manually clicking through land sales and trying to get the low priced parcels ==>> not a bot

One person letting the computer automatically do that same task ==>> running a land bot.

One person running 5 such programs ==>> running land BOTS

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One person manually buzzing around the grid using scan foo ==>> not a bot

A compute program that automatically scans all prims it can get too as it travels the grid ==>> a search bot.

Phil: LOL! Good comeback!

From what I know of bots, I always figured that they were avatars that were being run by a computer program to do a particular action, i.e. snap up land quickly, search and catalog items quickly, etc. Someone recently came up with the word "trafficbot" which to me implies an avatar created solely for the purpose of raising the traffic count. This traffic bot is not actively camping or collecting money in anyway; it just sits somewhere unobtrusive (in a lake, high in the sky) and does nothing.

But that's just how I see it.

The word "bot" is confusing because it has at least two legitimate uses, one for the internet in general and one very specialized meaning in SL. For the SL meaning, Oryx is basically correct.

An SL bot is an avatar that is being run by a special client (based on the libsl open source client library) that programmatically controls the avatar's actions. A bot client may be capable of running many avatars at once, thus their handiness for camping.

Ultimately, a human controls the bot. However they control it from outworld -- by doing something like issuing command line directives to the client program directly from Linux or Windows.

Which dastardly person did that??? Just let me get my hands on him.

To my way of thinking, a bot is a robot, and it performs a programmed function - movements, scanning, stuff like that. I don't use bots - I use alts - but the word "bot" seems to be used to encompass any avatar in SL that isn't directly operated by a person.

Ty, Oryx

I logged in at about 61,500, and it did not seem unusually laggy. However, something happened that has never happened to me before, that might be related.

I was building. The hour glass froze up and the title bar said

Second Life [not responding]. The rest of my Windows XP machine seemed ok, but SL was unresponsive for about 3 minutes.

Then it came back.

This happened three or four times over the course of two hours.

A bot that is any account logged into SL that is used for a function, rather than experiencing Second Life.

The purpose of your Alts is to game traffic, that is their function. Thus they are bots.

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One person camping is saving money.

One person camping with 5 alts is using those alts to serve the function of gathering money.

Thus they are bots.

I disagree. "bot" is short for "robot", and robots don't just stand there. You can call them bots if you wish, but I don't.

But what does a word matter.

Technically speaking you are correct, Phil, but in SL bot has come into common usage for any alt that just stands there for a purpose other than having a person behind it manipulating it. Alt seems to be reserved for an alternate avatar that a person uses for alternate roleplay or building etc. That's at least the way I have grown to interpret it.