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Why isn't Microsoft trying to "LL"?

Rebecca Proudhon
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03-22-2008 07:32
From: Snowman Jiminy
Vista Service Pack 1, to clear up a few bug fixes - nearly 500 Mb to download.


you must have a special one. The windows update was 66 mb and the whole thing took less then 10 minutes.
Gomez Bracken
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03-22-2008 08:23
From: Snowman Jiminy
Vista Service Pack 1, to clear up a few bug fixes - nearly 500 Mb to download.

Is that the same download that clearly states on the download page:
From: someone
DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is available on Windows Update.

That download is the full multi version, multi language service pack, for System Administrators. The one you should have used is about 67MB via windows update...

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03-22-2008 11:22
From: Dytska Vieria
If Microsoft made something like this, then instead of your shoes up your butt after a teleport, you would get the Blue Sim Of Death and then wait for a KB article that fixes it on Patch Tuesdays.
Which would cost you...


From: Ravenhurst Xeno
I think the big difference between SL and the other 3D environments is that SL's long term goal is not the creation of a gaming platform but the creation of an interoperable 3D virtual space:
http://secondlifegrid.net/programs/awg
It is a noble, and possibly futile, goal and not one to likely be shared by microsoft, nintendo, et. al. (google perhaps). I don't know what the future holds, but i'm confident sooner or later everyone is going to be getting into 3D space one way or another with their own particular agendas. LL has a good head start and i like their agenda so i will continue to support it ... and enjoy doing so.
I'm hoping for this too.


From: Rebecca Proudhon
When Microsoft does it, it will be the operating system, Your desktop will be your home and all the storage will be holographic and arranged in 3D rooms and corridors. You will have trash cans all over. Your Sims will be on your local computer.

If Second Life was being built as an operating system, then MS would be very interested.



Sun Micro in development
I want something like this but as dependable and affordable as Linux.
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Jonathon Darcy
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03-22-2008 11:24
Given that Bill Gates stepped down as CEO of Microsoft over a year ago, I doubt he is personally involved OP.
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03-22-2008 11:25
From: Snowman Jiminy
Vista Service Pack 1, to clear up a few bug fixes - nearly 500 Mb to download.

We can use 500Mb in downloading walls & floor textures just walking around SL for a day :)
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Lucy Zelmanov
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03-23-2008 15:36
Just to go back to the Google Earth thing mentioned earlier... How would they go about that? Who owns the peice of map I'm on ? Who gets to use say time square ? or red square ? If I have the money can I put a big 3d sign over someones house saying Wanker !!!! with an arrow pointing down ? How do you envision that working ?
I'm no having a pop at anybody in particular I'm just wondering how it would work.
Maximillian Desoto
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03-24-2008 07:04
From: Stephen Wisent


I also know that you gain a certain geeky credibility by knocking MS.. but I had to laugh when I read the comment saying that MS didn't "get" the internet.


Oh Please!!

MS did NOT get the internet, at all!! They were so late out of the gate on a web browser that the dust from Netscape had already settled by the time MS got into the race. The first several versions of IE were awful, clunky crashing programs.

It wasn't until MS was able to bundle IE with Windows 95/98 that they were able to gain their huge share of the browser market. Even then, not that IE was better, it's just that it was there, on the desktop.

Read up on a little internet history. Better yet, read BG's The Road Ahead from 1995. You will see how far behind BG's vision was at the time.
Stephen Wisent
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03-24-2008 07:18
From: Maximillian Desoto
Oh Please!!

MS did NOT get the internet, at all!! They were so late out of the gate on a web browser that the dust from Netscape had already settled by the time MS got into the race. The first several versions of IE were awful, clunky crashing programs.

It wasn't until MS was able to bundle IE with Windows 95/98 that they were able to gain their huge share of the browser market. Even then, not that IE was better, it's just that it was there, on the desktop.

Read up on a little internet history. Better yet, read BG's The Road Ahead from 1995. You will see how far behind BG's vision was at the time.


The also rans of any race always have excuses.. it was just.. but.. if only.

I'm not by any means a huge supporter of Microsoft, but to say that they didn't get the internet is looking just a wee bit silly in 2008.

Don't get me wrong, the race isn't over.. in fact I'm not sure the "race" has even been clearly defined yet.

Whatever happens it's often good to refer to Aesop's fable of the tortoise and the hare.

We might not know who the tortoise is going to end up being, but mentioning the names of lots of hares isn't getting us anywhere.
Bee Mizser
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03-24-2008 08:45
From: Strauss Ulderport
Windows XP at this point it quite a solid OS. Just as solid and secure as a *nix box.



Sorry I lol'd at this.

While XP is indeed very solid, it is certainly no-where near as secure as any *nix box.
Scott Hifeng
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03-24-2008 09:27
The Economist this week talks about the OP's question. Sort of. The big players learned from webmail that a service doesn't necessarily need to make money if it retains consumers. And if consumers come to expect free virtual worlds like they now expect free email, providers will not have much choice but to give it to them.

The consumer demand, and the standards necessary to meet the demand on a large scale, seem a long way off. But I know Philip is thinking about getting out of the proprietary "walled garden" of Second Life, to an open vitual universe, because he said so at the SL convention last year.

From: someone
March 19 - Two of the biggest online phenomena of the past couple of years—social networks such as Facebook, and virtual worlds such as Second Life—look an awful lot like AOL did in 1994. They are closed worlds based on proprietary standards. You cannot easily move information in and out of them: try shifting your Facebook profile to MySpace, or moving a piece of clothing or furniture from Second Life to Entropia Universe. True, the walled-off nature of these communities is part of their charm. And their proprietary nature is also inevitable: only when a technology is established do standards emerge. But that is now starting to happen with social networks and virtual worlds.

Just as the web's open standards, embodied in the Netscape browser, displaced AOL and its ilk, so Netscapisation awaits Facebook and Second Life. As new standards make it easier to pipe data in and out of social networks, the need to visit a particular website to catch up with friends may come to seem as quaint as AOL's “You've got mail” alert (see article). Similarly, work is under way to allow links, akin to those between websites, to be set up between virtual worlds based on open standards and hosted on different machines. Why bother with an island in Second Life when you can build your own world?

The full article is here:
http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10880516
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