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Cael Merryman

Brain in Neutral

Join date: 5 Dec 2007

Posts: 380

09-04-2008 10:33

From: Marianne McCann

Ya, the more I think about it, 8.5 Billion minnits in a year seems a bit too high when I think about how often I see people using voice

There are 25600 minutes in a year. Maybe someone who is better at math than I can figure out how many people would have to be on and talking 24/7 (an impossibility) for this to bear out?

Uh, there are 525,600 minutes in a short year (365x24x60). That still requires that 16,172 people be on-line with voice activated on average all the time to make 8.5 billion, which is a tad less than half of the normal numbers. Does not match my experience, which is pretty much everyone non-voice except at conferences. What - are all the bots voice active? Makes me nervous, that thought. All those soulless heathens chatting away up in the skies. What are they talking about? Revolution?

Ricky Yates

(searching...)

Join date: 28 Jan 2007

Posts: 809

09-04-2008 10:34

From: Cael Merryman

What - are all the bots voice active? Makes me nervous, that thought. All those soulless heathens chatting away up in the skies. What are they talking about? Revolution?

I, for one, welcome our new chatbot overlords.

Aeronya Arai

Registered User

Join date: 25 Apr 2008

Posts: 5

Way to miss the point Linden Labs!!

04-16-2009 00:40

It seems that the brain donors that are behind the development of the SLim application completely missed the point that many of the people that want to use this application would be doing so from a computer (such as a low end laptop) that is unable to run the regular SL viewer application. Here's a clip from the page on how to go about insalling the SLim application:

" You need to download the latest Second Life Viewer that is specially designed to work with SLim. Other Second Life viewers will not work with SLim.

Please note: You must log in to this viewer at least once before logging in to SLim. Logging in to this viewer ensures that your SL Friends list syncs properly with SLim, and that SL Voice is engaged. You do not need to speak to use SL Voice; you just need to log in to this viewer so voice is automatically engaged. This enables Vivox (our voice partner) to authenticate you as a SL Resident for SLim use. "

So how are users supposed to run the SLim application if they want to use it on a lower end computer that doesn't support the graphics intensive SL viewer application?? Not a very good way of going about it Linden Labs!! You could have written an application that simply logs in to the normal server but doesn't capture the rendering data that would be used to generate 3D graphics (in other words strip the opengl rendering portion out of the regular viewer application, have it display some generic image as the wallpaper, and still permit the display of all of the normal windows, which as far as I know aren't generated by openGL routines but simply regular routines), but then I guess that would have made way too much sense!! I think it's time to consider hiring new programmers again Linden Labs!!!

Handy Skytower

Registered User

Join date: 17 Aug 2008

Posts: 127

04-16-2009 04:58

SLim works only with the First Look viewer, I think they just want you to log into that viewer one time to sync your friends list. Then you don't have to do it again.

However, you can only talk to people in-world if they are running the First Look viewer for now. Eventually it will be incorporated into the main viewer, so they say.

This feature was much hyped and bragged about but since its release seems to have stalled.

So, log into the first look viewer once from a computer that can handle it, then go back to your computer that can't and log into the SLim client and you should be good to go.

I have over 100 friends on my friends list but not one of them is running the First Look client so I still can't use it!

I wish they'd move on this one.
Handy

((forgive me if I missed the point of your post))

Marianne McCann

Feted Inner Child

Join date: 23 Feb 2006

Posts: 7,145

04-16-2009 10:42

From: Aeronya Arai

It seems that the brain donors that are behind the development of the SLim application completely missed the point that many of the people that want to use this application would be doing so from a computer (such as a low end laptop) that is unable to run the regular SL viewer application.

Revived from September of 2008

_____________________

"There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden
"If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world

" - Prospero Linden

Shirley Marquez

Ethical SLut

Join date: 28 Oct 2005

Posts: 788

04-21-2009 14:03

If you visit the SLim download page (http://secondlife.com/SLim/) now, it offers you the 1.22.11 release client. I haven't tried it recently, but it may now be true that the support for SLim is in the main viewer; I can't check right now because I'm on a Linux system and there is no SLim client for Linux

As for the question somebody else raised about low-end computers: to get the SLim client (the one that just does chat) to work you have to log in at least once with a full viewer that supports SLim communication... but it doesn't have to be on the same computer that you install the SLim client on, just with the same avatar name. So installing a full viewer with SLim support on your good computer and logging in will let you run SLim on your netbook or whatever, without ever needing to run the actual viewer on the netbook.

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Cael Merryman Brain in Neutral Join date: 5 Dec 2007 Posts: 380	09-04-2008 10:33 From: Marianne McCann Ya, the more I think about it, 8.5 Billion minnits in a year seems a bit too high when I think about how often I see people using voice There are 25600 minutes in a year. Maybe someone who is better at math than I can figure out how many people would have to be on and talking 24/7 (an impossibility) for this to bear out? Uh, there are 525,600 minutes in a short year (365x24x60). That still requires that 16,172 people be on-line with voice activated on average all the time to make 8.5 billion, which is a tad less than half of the normal numbers. Does not match my experience, which is pretty much everyone non-voice except at conferences. What - are all the bots voice active? Makes me nervous, that thought. All those soulless heathens chatting away up in the skies. What are they talking about? Revolution?
Ricky Yates (searching...) Join date: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 809	09-04-2008 10:34 From: Cael Merryman What - are all the bots voice active? Makes me nervous, that thought. All those soulless heathens chatting away up in the skies. What are they talking about? Revolution? I, for one, welcome our new chatbot overlords.
Aeronya Arai Registered User Join date: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 5	Way to miss the point Linden Labs!! 04-16-2009 00:40 It seems that the brain donors that are behind the development of the SLim application completely missed the point that many of the people that want to use this application would be doing so from a computer (such as a low end laptop) that is unable to run the regular SL viewer application. Here's a clip from the page on how to go about insalling the SLim application: " You need to download the latest Second Life Viewer that is specially designed to work with SLim. Other Second Life viewers will not work with SLim. Please note: You must log in to this viewer at least once before logging in to SLim. Logging in to this viewer ensures that your SL Friends list syncs properly with SLim, and that SL Voice is engaged. You do not need to speak to use SL Voice; you just need to log in to this viewer so voice is automatically engaged. This enables Vivox (our voice partner) to authenticate you as a SL Resident for SLim use. " So how are users supposed to run the SLim application if they want to use it on a lower end computer that doesn't support the graphics intensive SL viewer application?? Not a very good way of going about it Linden Labs!! You could have written an application that simply logs in to the normal server but doesn't capture the rendering data that would be used to generate 3D graphics (in other words strip the opengl rendering portion out of the regular viewer application, have it display some generic image as the wallpaper, and still permit the display of all of the normal windows, which as far as I know aren't generated by openGL routines but simply regular routines), but then I guess that would have made way too much sense!! I think it's time to consider hiring new programmers again Linden Labs!!!
Handy Skytower Registered User Join date: 17 Aug 2008 Posts: 127	04-16-2009 04:58 SLim works only with the First Look viewer, I think they just want you to log into that viewer one time to sync your friends list. Then you don't have to do it again. However, you can only talk to people in-world if they are running the First Look viewer for now. Eventually it will be incorporated into the main viewer, so they say. This feature was much hyped and bragged about but since its release seems to have stalled. So, log into the first look viewer once from a computer that can handle it, then go back to your computer that can't and log into the SLim client and you should be good to go. I have over 100 friends on my friends list but not one of them is running the First Look client so I still can't use it! I wish they'd move on this one. Handy ((forgive me if I missed the point of your post))
Marianne McCann Feted Inner Child Join date: 23 Feb 2006 Posts: 7,145	04-16-2009 10:42 From: Aeronya Arai It seems that the brain donors that are behind the development of the SLim application completely missed the point that many of the people that want to use this application would be doing so from a computer (such as a low end laptop) that is unable to run the regular SL viewer application. Revived from September of 2008 _____________________ "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world " - Prospero Linden
Shirley Marquez Ethical SLut Join date: 28 Oct 2005 Posts: 788	04-21-2009 14:03 If you visit the SLim download page (http://secondlife.com/SLim/) now, it offers you the 1.22.11 release client. I haven't tried it recently, but it may now be true that the support for SLim is in the main viewer; I can't check right now because I'm on a Linux system and there is no SLim client for Linux As for the question somebody else raised about low-end computers: to get the SLim client (the one that just does chat) to work you have to log in at least once with a full viewer that supports SLim communication... but it doesn't have to be on the same computer that you install the SLim client on, just with the same avatar name. So installing a full viewer with SLim support on your good computer and logging in will let you run SLim on your netbook or whatever, without ever needing to run the actual viewer on the netbook.

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