SLim?

Try seaching SL Exchange for second messenger - doesn't need a special SL client *and* apparently also supports linux!

Matthew

...I think hacking up something from libsecondlife and attaching it as an XMPP transport will be less pain than that.

I think the clazim talk time can mean available, not in use Also the claim to have become one of the world's largest VoIP providers since launching voice chat a year ago, with residents logging more than 8.5 billion minutes of talk time. Doesnt say its being used, just that is available.

Ya, the more I think about it, 8.5 Billion minnits in a year seems a bit too high when I think about how often I see people using voice

There are 25600 minutes in a year. Maybe someone who is better at math than I can figure out how many people would have to be on and talking 24/7 (an impossibility) for this to bear out?

First you have to define whether a "billion" is 10^6 or 10^9. I keep hearing varying accounts.

SLIM on teh Blog: http://blog.secondlife.com/2008/09/03/connecting-second-life-to-real-life/
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I'm annoyed! I made Voicebox only a month or two ago, and suddenly this secret project pops up and nullifies my effort

Hmmm - 8.5 billion minutes is the equivalent of a little under 142 million hours. If that's spread over a year, that's 380,000 hours a day, and 16,000 hours per SL hour. If there's an average of 40,000 ppl in SL at any one time then in 1 hour each one must be talkin' for 16,000/40,000 hrs, or about 24 mins.

So, for those claims to be true, every single person and bot online in SL has to be using voice just under half the time they spend in SL. That seems highly unlikely, of course, as always, your math may vary *grin*

It looks more promising than SLIm, so don't be discouraged just yet.

I think any outfit who claims numbers as a selling point gains a instant minus while Im looking. Are they supposed to be impressive? Perhaps bloated?

In the United States, Billion is 10^6, and Trillion is 10^9

I think that only applies on every 6th Sunday of the month

It'a actually a million and billion respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)

Oh you're right duh sorry. I was confused by the two numbers being confused for "Billion"... I didn't think to actually COUNT the 0's.

US: 10^9 = Billion, 10^12 = Trillion
European: 10^9 = Thousand Million, 10^12 = Billion

1,000,000 Million
1,000,000,000 (US)Billion
1,000,000,000,000 (US)Trillion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales

by the way, SLIM website (http://secondlife.com/slim) is not working. I try to access just not long ago and found myself being redirectedback to SL main page.

Is there anyone has downloaded this yet?

*watches SLers behavior like watching ants...*

Okay, how about this: There were probably bugs with it, showstopper enough for them to postpone the release, but PR neglected to cancel deployment of press releases. One hand did not know what the other was doing, hence corporate egg on face.

Don't you think it would be mentioned on the main page once it launched? I would.

*goes back to bed*

Hmmmm it may well be that there's some legal trouble connected with SLim. I recall that there already is or was a product called SLIMChat that had a very similar functionality. It stopped being updated a while back when its maker, a resident named Rin Redgrave, was hospitalized. His website was showing a short note from his family for a while but has expired since. No one seems to know nowadays what has become of Rin, but the SLExchange listing is still there: http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=231265.

Could it be tha Rin or his family heard of the launch and sued?

Joe Linden stated : “If you are not an active user of the voice service, then SLim will not be of interest to you.”

Well, at least Joe is being honest about that, though he burried that admission way deep in a reply to the blog announcement about SLim. So why even bother referring to it as also being a TEXT IM system, when that functionality is almost negligible in SLim, and you are forced to use Voice to make use of the minor text-based feature? Looks like I can ignore this product. I’ll never use Voice myself, and extremely few people that I know in SL use it either.

I see this as another way to break down the walls between Second Life and Real Life, making RL intrude on SL in new ways that destroy the functionality further for anyone whose avatars are not carbon-copy clones of their real-life self. Further proof that the people running SL have no clue about the innovative uses for their own virtual world that the majority of their customers enjoy. If I want communications that work just like my real life, I already have that. It’s called the telephone, and business-class teleconferencing and web meeting services.

If I want my friends to contact me when I am not in-world, via a voice method, I’ll give them my private cell phone number. The sum total of people on my SL friends list that have that number now? ONE, and that person’s Player had been a friend in RL for over a decade before they ever heard of SL. They already had my phone number and address before they joined SL.

A web-based, text-only interface to SL’s IM system might have been useful to me, and to a lot of people that I know. Guess I’ll continue using ICQ for that, even though it doesn’t directly tie in to SL’s system. I can still list my SL friends that have ICQ accounts in my ICQ client, and text message them there, when I am not in-world.

The same place they get all their "numbers". They pull them out of their.............

Asset server?

They really should watch that. They have been having too many eggs in the past year or so. Bad for their cholesterol.

There ya go!


I agree with Ceera's post up there. It is another move toward SL just becoming RL v2.

I don't have any need to communicate outside of SL, I don't even send IM's to email. But a lot of people do, so if this makes it easier for them, have at it.

Well, I feel pretty much the same as I do about voice in general, if it works for you then have at it.

However, it seems like just another slap in the face for those of us for whom having a microphone glued to our face 24/7 is not an option.

To me it just looks like another way for them to artificially inflate their "voice use" numbers by forcing more people to have voice active just so they can text chat from the outside world. Well, Yahoo, AIM, MSN, et al work just fine for that and if I really need to speak to someone I can pick up my telephone or even use Skype.

"If you are not an active user of the voice service, then SLim will not be of interest to you."

That pretty much says it all for me.

with all the 'goodies' LL wants us to use my main concern would be what is the bandwidth hit gonna be? Caps ARE coming.

Since you can only use this service if, and only if, all other people whom you wish to talk to are also on that service, it is in no significant way different from using an external messenger...

Exactly, so, I will continue using my current external text chat messenger with no requirement that I have voice enabled in order to use it.