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Govindira Galatea

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05-12-2009 22:17

From: Keira Wells

See post #5

It only counts for half of the versus, albeit the stronger half.
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PS, the game in which if you play, you lose?

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Phil Deakins

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Join date: 17 Jan 2007

Posts: 9,537

05-13-2009 00:16

From: eku Zhong

Phil, if its any consolation, this has happened to us too.. a few times.
The very very best one was this guy who IM me same thing.. the bed didnt work .. no menu etc
so i ask him to pass me the bed to check.. no he says he will bring it.. send him a TP please. So i send him a TP.. and wait and wait.. i send him an IM asking him if he got the TP.. yes he says one moment... 10 minutes later .. another IM.. please send TP again..
so i do.. 5 min later another IM.. hangon i am changing.. then 10ish minutes later.. please send TP again.. so i do

eventually he arrives with a hugely erect penis attached. I ask him nicely to remove it. but he goes straight into this tirade about the effing bed and how it effing wont work.. and how he bloodywell wants his money back...and another copy of the bed as compensation.. how we stole his money by selling him stuff that didnt work..

so i ask him to give me the bed.. and lo and behold.. its empty.. I explained how sometimes ppl can make a mistake and remove the contents (which werent even in the root prim to avoid this prob) and i just gave him back the empty bed and told him to look in his invent.. and to send me the 199 animations and the bed and i will send him a replacement.

never heard from him again. he left with the bed and his raging hardon.

I like such stories - ty

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Phil Deakins

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05-13-2009 00:21

From: Paulo Dielli

I never even think about it anymore. It happens that people break stuff, deliberate or not. It's not worth the effort or energy to find out if they are legit.

That's not for me. I prefer not to do 2 for the price of 1 if I can help it. The "effort and energy" costs nothing, and in most cases, dealing with it in detail actually teaches the person how to deal with it themselves in the future, when SL messes something up; i.e. Reset Scripts in Selection.

Perhaps you should put more effort and energy into dealing with these cases instead of keeping an eye on your All search rankings

(j/k)

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Ian Nider

Seeds

Join date: 20 Mar 2009

Posts: 1,011

05-13-2009 00:22

From: Phil Deakins

I like such stories - ty

Yep me too.

Rokku Carlton

Registered User

Join date: 22 Oct 2006

Posts: 19

05-13-2009 00:38

I used to run a dancefloor business last year before better dancefloors came onto the market and I wasn't good enough to compete lol.

Anyway, I got some pretty female avatars over to dance around and in exchange allow me to use the pictures as part of the promotional campaign, some of them thought I was being a perve lol, but it was for my promotional pictures of people dancing on my dancefloors.

People really do take the mickey, I think there was about 6 of them and I clicked them all and paid them all a few hundred lindens each for about 20 mins of their time, so a good deal really.

One of them claimed not to have received the money so I paid her twice, only to get an IM from her friend to tell me she had ripped me off! I took it on the chin but people can be really scanky can't they?

R

Keira Wells

Blender Sculptor

Join date: 16 Mar 2008

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05-13-2009 01:32

From: Govindira Galatea

PS, the game in which if you play, you lose?

Of course not, that wouldn't be much of a game at all.

Playing, in and of itself, does not equate a loss. (Though, you did just lose, as did I)

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Paulo Dielli

Symfurny Furniture

Join date: 19 Jan 2007

Posts: 780

05-13-2009 03:20

From: Phil Deakins

Perhaps you should put more effort and energy into dealing with these cases instead of keeping an eye on your All search rankings

(j/k)

Oh, what happened with search rankings then?

Clarissa Lowell

Gone. G'bye.

Join date: 10 Apr 2006

Posts: 3,020

05-13-2009 03:36

From: Phil Deakins

I don't know for certain that the girl was knowingly involved in the attempted theft but, since she didn't IM to say something like, "Sorry. I'd no idea he took them out", I favour that they tried it between them.

She may not have understood any or most of it, especially if new. I wouldn't have, without being around SL and the forums long enough to know that it is the scripts that are the costly part.

She may not have known it was wrong (to take from one thing and put in another) in other words, as incredible as it may sound. Maybe she did not realise he'd removed them, and/or did not realise that to remove the scripts would disable the furniture. (If she did realise it, then she was a rather stupid thief, to call in the owner!) HE may have conned her into edit rights in order to try and steal your scripts from HER. That he asked her for edit rights and she granted them, denotes either absolute trust between them for a reason (MAYBE to join forces but again, fairly stupid if calling you in?), or her gullibility and his cunning.

Or she may have felt like once bought, they were ok to dupe. Who knows. With Limewire and such it's a dupe-ok society now.

Thinking about it further, I tend to vote 'her gullibliity and his cunning' - his asking her for edit rights, his removing the scripts, and HER not knowing what is going on or why it didn't work. I bet he was surprised to see you come in and discover what happened let alone having to give the scripts back to her.

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Phil Deakins

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05-13-2009 04:10

From: Paulo Dielli

Oh, what happened with search rankings then?

Dunno. The top ones seem to be randomly jumping around lately

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Phil Deakins

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05-13-2009 04:29

From: Clarissa Lowell

She may not have known it was wrong (to take from one thing and put in another) in other words, as incredible as it may sound.

I don't see that as being wrong. Once they've paid for them, they can do what they want with them. I had a customer once call me out to help with putting the stuff back and getting it work. He'd tried to make a bed and put my contents in it. I helped him - he wasn't trying to steal anything.

From: Clarissa Lowell

Maybe she did not realise he'd removed them

That's quite possible, but I favour the other interpretation of things, because she didn't say a word of apology to me. If I'd been her, and a friend had done that, causing me to trouble a creator, saying that it doesn't work, I'd be very embarrassed and would definitely express that to the creator.

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Govindira Galatea

Just ghosting...

Join date: 6 Mar 2004

Posts: 416

05-13-2009 08:16

From: Keira Wells

Of course not, that wouldn't be much of a game at all.

Playing, in and of itself, does not equate a loss. (Though, you did just lose, as did I)

That is the game to which we were both referring. "I lose."

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From: Caron Warner Lieber, woolgatherer

"A person who talks fast often says things she hasn't thought of yet."

From: Amosis Leontopolis Thomas

"The Creator has a Master Plan: Peace and Happiness through all the Land."

Isablan Neva

Mystic

Join date: 27 Nov 2004

Posts: 2,907

05-13-2009 08:52

The real hilarity of the whole situation is that the time it would take this couple to adjust all the poses in the new bed to fit is more than the cost to just buy a bed with poses already in it and set up. And then if they happen to restart said item, they lose the settings unless they had the forethought to follow the instructions to dump the settings and paste them into the correct notecard.

That's a WHOLE LOT OF WORK to avoid paying...what...$1000L for another item with adult poses?
Do you make more than $4.50 USD an hour?

And when you consider that in order to even have a place to put a bed, they have to have paid for land or paid to rent, so they have already spent RL money in SL....the situation just gets more comical.

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The gaul of some people
Govindira Galatea Just ghosting... Join date: 6 Mar 2004 Posts: 416	05-12-2009 22:17 From: Keira Wells See post #5 It only counts for half of the versus, albeit the stronger half. ____signed, ______X ______(Asterix, his mark) PS, the game in which if you play, you lose? _____________________ From: Caron Warner Lieber, woolgatherer "A person who talks fast often says things she hasn't thought of yet." From: Amosis Leontopolis Thomas "The Creator has a Master Plan: Peace and Happiness through all the Land."
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	05-13-2009 00:16 From: eku Zhong Phil, if its any consolation, this has happened to us too.. a few times. The very very best one was this guy who IM me same thing.. the bed didnt work .. no menu etc so i ask him to pass me the bed to check.. no he says he will bring it.. send him a TP please. So i send him a TP.. and wait and wait.. i send him an IM asking him if he got the TP.. yes he says one moment... 10 minutes later .. another IM.. please send TP again.. so i do.. 5 min later another IM.. hangon i am changing.. then 10ish minutes later.. please send TP again.. so i do eventually he arrives with a hugely erect penis attached. I ask him nicely to remove it. but he goes straight into this tirade about the effing bed and how it effing wont work.. and how he bloodywell wants his money back...and another copy of the bed as compensation.. how we stole his money by selling him stuff that didnt work.. so i ask him to give me the bed.. and lo and behold.. its empty.. I explained how sometimes ppl can make a mistake and remove the contents (which werent even in the root prim to avoid this prob) and i just gave him back the empty bed and told him to look in his invent.. and to send me the 199 animations and the bed and i will send him a replacement. never heard from him again. he left with the bed and his raging hardon. I like such stories - ty _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	05-13-2009 00:21 From: Paulo Dielli I never even think about it anymore. It happens that people break stuff, deliberate or not. It's not worth the effort or energy to find out if they are legit. That's not for me. I prefer not to do 2 for the price of 1 if I can help it. The "effort and energy" costs nothing, and in most cases, dealing with it in detail actually teaches the person how to deal with it themselves in the future, when SL messes something up; i.e. Reset Scripts in Selection. Perhaps you should put more effort and energy into dealing with these cases instead of keeping an eye on your All search rankings (j/k) _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Ian Nider Seeds Join date: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,011	05-13-2009 00:22 From: Phil Deakins I like such stories - ty Yep me too.
Rokku Carlton Registered User Join date: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 19	05-13-2009 00:38 I used to run a dancefloor business last year before better dancefloors came onto the market and I wasn't good enough to compete lol. Anyway, I got some pretty female avatars over to dance around and in exchange allow me to use the pictures as part of the promotional campaign, some of them thought I was being a perve lol, but it was for my promotional pictures of people dancing on my dancefloors. People really do take the mickey, I think there was about 6 of them and I clicked them all and paid them all a few hundred lindens each for about 20 mins of their time, so a good deal really. One of them claimed not to have received the money so I paid her twice, only to get an IM from her friend to tell me she had ripped me off! I took it on the chin but people can be really scanky can't they? R
Keira Wells Blender Sculptor Join date: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 2,371	05-13-2009 01:32 From: Govindira Galatea PS, the game in which if you play, you lose? Of course not, that wouldn't be much of a game at all. Playing, in and of itself, does not equate a loss. (Though, you did just lose, as did I) _____________________ Tutorials for Sculpties using Blender! Http://www.youtube.com/user/BlenderSL
Paulo Dielli Symfurny Furniture Join date: 19 Jan 2007 Posts: 780	05-13-2009 03:20 From: Phil Deakins Perhaps you should put more effort and energy into dealing with these cases instead of keeping an eye on your All search rankings (j/k) Oh, what happened with search rankings then?
Clarissa Lowell Gone. G'bye. Join date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,020	05-13-2009 03:36 From: Phil Deakins I don't know for certain that the girl was knowingly involved in the attempted theft but, since she didn't IM to say something like, "Sorry. I'd no idea he took them out", I favour that they tried it between them. She may not have understood any or most of it, especially if new. I wouldn't have, without being around SL and the forums long enough to know that it is the scripts that are the costly part. She may not have known it was wrong (to take from one thing and put in another) in other words, as incredible as it may sound. Maybe she did not realise he'd removed them, and/or did not realise that to remove the scripts would disable the furniture. (If she did realise it, then she was a rather stupid thief, to call in the owner!) HE may have conned her into edit rights in order to try and steal your scripts from HER. That he asked her for edit rights and she granted them, denotes either absolute trust between them for a reason (MAYBE to join forces but again, fairly stupid if calling you in?), or her gullibility and his cunning. Or she may have felt like once bought, they were ok to dupe. Who knows. With Limewire and such it's a dupe-ok society now. Thinking about it further, I tend to vote 'her gullibliity and his cunning' - his asking her for edit rights, his removing the scripts, and HER not knowing what is going on or why it didn't work. I bet he was surprised to see you come in and discover what happened let alone having to give the scripts back to her. _____________________
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	05-13-2009 04:10 From: Paulo Dielli Oh, what happened with search rankings then? Dunno. The top ones seem to be randomly jumping around lately _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Phil Deakins Prim Savers = low prims Join date: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 9,537	05-13-2009 04:29 From: Clarissa Lowell She may not have known it was wrong (to take from one thing and put in another) in other words, as incredible as it may sound. I don't see that as being wrong. Once they've paid for them, they can do what they want with them. I had a customer once call me out to help with putting the stuff back and getting it work. He'd tried to make a bed and put my contents in it. I helped him - he wasn't trying to steal anything. From: Clarissa Lowell Maybe she did not realise he'd removed them That's quite possible, but I favour the other interpretation of things, because she didn't say a word of apology to me. If I'd been her, and a friend had done that, causing me to trouble a creator, saying that it doesn't work, I'd be very embarrassed and would definitely express that to the creator. _____________________ Prim Savers - almost 1000 items of superbly crafted, top quality, very low prim furniture, and all at amazingly low prices. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Seymour/213/120/251/
Govindira Galatea Just ghosting... Join date: 6 Mar 2004 Posts: 416	05-13-2009 08:16 From: Keira Wells Of course not, that wouldn't be much of a game at all. Playing, in and of itself, does not equate a loss. (Though, you did just lose, as did I) That is the game to which we were both referring. "I lose." _____________________ From: Caron Warner Lieber, woolgatherer "A person who talks fast often says things she hasn't thought of yet." From: Amosis Leontopolis Thomas "The Creator has a Master Plan: Peace and Happiness through all the Land."
Isablan Neva Mystic Join date: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 2,907	05-13-2009 08:52 The real hilarity of the whole situation is that the time it would take this couple to adjust all the poses in the new bed to fit is more than the cost to just buy a bed with poses already in it and set up. And then if they happen to restart said item, they lose the settings unless they had the forethought to follow the instructions to dump the settings and paste them into the correct notecard. That's a WHOLE LOT OF WORK to avoid paying...what...$1000L for another item with adult poses? Do you make more than $4.50 USD an hour? And when you consider that in order to even have a place to put a bed, they have to have paid for land or paid to rent, so they have already spent RL money in SL....the situation just gets more comical. _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/TheBotanicalGardens/207/30/420/

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