Walking to a new place nearby

The controls for walking forward etc are terrible for me, I always overshoot badly due to display lag.

Is there a way to click on a spot on the ground and have your avatar walk there?

Are there better controls from 3rd parties or some hack to get better control?

The Emerald viewer does that. You can set it so that a double-click on the spot where you wat to go either walks you there or TPs you there. It's a very useful feature.

There is also to Goto segment in the right-click pie menu but that may only work when going to people. I never use it so I'm not sure.

Right click the ground, choose 'go here.'

Mine only says "Sit Here" as an option; no "go here". Is there a prefs I can set for this? Or add this command "go here" ?

Thank you thank thank you, VirtualVisitor for asking this question.
And thank you, Phil for answering. I just went in world and set my Emerald viewer to "double-click auto pilot" and it works great!!!
I have spent the last three years bungling into people, objects, and thin air because I couldn't control where I was going in laggy situations. The very worst was the time I found myself standing right next to Phil Linden on stage when he was speaking to an amphitheater full of people.
It never occurred to me to ask if there might be a solution.

"Go Here" only works if you click on land, not prims.

What's different about that from the Double-click Autopilot in the regular viewer? Is it just that no one knows it's there, or something?

Same thing, I think. But don't you have to turn it on in Debug Settings in the regular viewer in order to use it? This http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Torley_Linden/Debug_Settings suggests you do.

I guess so. You have to enable the feature in the regular client through 'Advanced > Debug settings... > DoubleClickAutoPilot' and setting it to 'TRUE'. After that, double-click anyplace on the ground and your av will go there.

I don't understand why they have it set to 'FALSE' by default. Maybe it's down to mouse skills where many people double-click links, folders, files and just about everything else as a matter of course. That could be awkward in SL where someone just wants to activate a touch event but their av walks up and headbutts the object as well.

Potentially embarrassing when you consider the popular fondness for clickable genitals.

I have to say I'm getting a little tired of reading how Emerald is such a holy show when it seems folk don't explore the regular client, which is the most stable way to view SL in my opinion.

It's good to have choices, and for me the Double-Click Autopilot can be a bit annoying.




You are correct. They do a good job reorganising, and have added some nice features, but our SL UI is rich territory to explore without Emerald. /me loves the UI. The things available to us are just wonderful.

It's under Advanced->UI in the regular viewer, no need to remember a debug setting.

It's not enabled by default because it's buggy. It doesn't distinguish between touchable objects and others. If you click too quickly on a HUD object, the viewer will dutifully try to walk you to <0,0,0> in the sim.

It isn't there - at least not normally. Double-clicking the ground or an object does nothing in the regular viewer. Perhaps there's an option for it that can be turned on? (eta: I've now read the posts about it )

I did find that that right-clicking the ground does provide a Go here option in the pie menu that auto-pilots you to the spot. It's not something I ever noticed - maybe because I've never wanted to do it. I use the double-click to TP with Emerald.

However IIRC - if you get accidentally initiate an undesired autopilot all you have to do is key either the left or right arrows. When the user takes control of the avi the autopilot will disengage.


... or at least it used to.

Sorry about that, but Emerald does provide some excellent features that don't exist in the regular viewer. For instance, for content creators, temporarily uploading textures, including scuplties, and animations to try out in the main grid for free, is absolutley fantastic. I can't tell you what a pain it is having to use the beta grid for animations. There's also the double-click TP to the spot, and I find that using the Radar box to TP to a person is enormously useful. E.g. I could be messing about with the castle on the ground when someone needs some help in the store hundreds of meters in the sky. Getting to the person normally needs to find the store's LM in my inv, TP there, and then find the person, but using the Radar box I only need to click the button to open it, click ther person's name, and click the TP button and I'm there.

Sorry that it's becoming annoying to you, but some people really do find some of its features to be very useful.

It seems popular endorsement of Emerald has become almost evangelical in recent weeks - and I have a deep-seated aversion to evangelism of any description.

I suppose the viewer must have a few useful features but the two biggies - bobbin bazoombas' and attachments galore - are quite buggy by some accounts I've read recently. Apparently these effects are invisible if not a sorry mess to residents using a different viewer. Otherwise advocates appear to be automatically crediting Emerald with all sorts of dinky dooberries that are already features of the regular client (eg: your own oversight earlier in this thread).

And as for features like the tp and radar stuff: what's wrong with asking the person you want to see for a good old-fashioned tp that lands you right in front of them?

Well, if you must know, I use Emerald because it is the most stable RLV viewer for my computer that also has some of the layout I want of the Official viewer (that RLV is not on by default, of course, you have to turn it on). Official doesn't have that, nor was it tremondous stable, for me, last time I checked.

I've used Emerald long before it was popular. Back when it was Greenlife (that always confused me, people called it Emerald, and the viewer itself called itself Greenlife; I think it was Greenlife Emerald, but if you are going to go for a short name, would you use the second name? GE, of course, is already taken).

As I said, I'm sorry that you don't like it but the fact is that Emerald outshines the standard viewer in many respects, such as those I mentioned. I didn't overlook the standard viewer feature, as you said I did, because it wasn't shown to me by the standard viewer. That's another way in which Emerald outshines the standard viewer

But I'm not an evangelist for Emerald, except for the temporary uploads. If someone asks a question, and Emerald is the answer, then that's the way things are I'm afraid.

One more thing. You asked why I don't ask people to TP me. Why should I when it's so much easier and quicker to get to them with Emerald?

I just like being able to disable the stupid teleport screen and sound effect.

Fact is that feature is there and, as Viktoria pointed out, users don't even need to take my habitual route through 'Debug settings...' because it's under the UI menu. Whether you "weren't shown" it or simply overlooked it isn't relevant.


Lamb sakes don't take it personally, Phil. I was speaking generally and I was trying to avoid using a tired old word like 'hype', which is what the Emerald buzz feels like to me: this year's RLV.


Fair enough but very often I am offered a tp as a matter of course when a meeting is imminent. I don't see the point in a different viewer for the sake of a minor convenience that is already handled by fairly standard SL practice.

Emerald's attractions for me, as well as stability and RLV, include the extra building settings (both on the building window and in Emerald preferences), a rather more granular auto-reply system than the "busy" one when I want to tell people not to expect an immediate answer, a collection of anti-greifer devices and that fact that it just about replaces almost everything for which I used to use MystiTool. This, combined with the built-in AO, frees up my screen and makes it a lot easier for me to TP.

It's also a lot more considerate for the sims I arrive at, I think, since it means I arrive with fewer mono scripts in my attachments, thus mitigating the horrid effects described in https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4196 and https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3895.

However, the killer apps are, of course, the cool particle beam and, now, the jiggling boobs.

I wouldn't call it very visible being stuck deep inside there. First, users have to discover the Advanced menu, and then go through it to see what all that stuff is about. I've had the Advanced menu up for years, and I didn't know it was there, simply because I don't go through it. I suppose you could say that I overlooked it, but it really isn't very visible.

For me, TPing straight to a person who is asking for help is a plus. It's a big store, and on 2 floors, and sometimes it isn't the quickest thing in the world to find a particular person in it, even on the occasions when I know which pager they clicked. For me, getting there very quickly after being paged is important.

To be honest, I actually dislike the 5 decimal places that it supports. It would be ok if the number boxes were wider, to accomodate the 5 decimal places, but they aren't and the unseen digits sometimes get in the way. I dislike that aspect of Emerald.

What does granular mean apart from grainy or sandlike?


That's interesting. Does your AO still work for users on other viewers?


I was just wondering how viewers affect sim resources if at all and is there any way to compare performance if they do?

In this context it means I can be more selective about what messages people get, and whether they get them when the IM opens or in response to every message. Yes, first thing I checked, of course.It's difficult to see how a viewer could affect sim performance, since it's using the data it exchanges with the sim anyway. If you have in mind the AO, I'm not sure of nuts and bolts, but all it's doing is substituting my anims for the ones the sim plays; unlike a traditional AO it's not having to call a timer event every second or so to see what I'm doing. It might be using more resources than if I didn't use an AO at all and just used the default anims but it's certainly using less than a traditional AO would to do the same job.

These extra digits are an annoyance to me also, do we really need them? Never had problems without them and now so much easier to miss a digit. I do love the option to have own texture automatically when you rez a prim, I have mine set with a texture map.

Talking of tping to people, one thing I use a lot in Emerald is 'flr' to tp straight to ground. Very useful when you build a few thousand meters in the sky and want to get down to a customer or to put items out etc.

I use the double click teleport which is great to move around, especially at sim crossings. It can be embarassing though when you didn't intend it.