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Brenda Connolly

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07-05-2009 08:04

From: Lance Corrimal

starting to wonder if "bullshitting the forums" is AR-able under "disturbing the peace".

If this were the case, almost all of us would wound up in the dock at one time or another.

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07-05-2009 09:48

From: Fred Hegel

Well if so then why the repetition of effort in terms of adult verification?!

Marketing. They want to look good for the businesses they imagine are just chomping at the bit to get into SL once they remove the porn from the mainland. If only they would do the same for the businesses that are chomping at the bit waiting for a more reliable grid, better in-world tools, less lag, less inventory loss, and everything else that makes the SL experience unpredictable.

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Imnotgoing Sideways

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07-05-2009 09:56

From: Fred Hegel

That's what I'm saying Ceka! The LL restrictions are not enough! They need to go further! Adult Verification for everyone on the Main Grid!!

Actually, (adult) age verification is nearly completely defunct. It was a beta project that failed. (^_^)

Currently, LL is meeting legal standards by relying on account verification. Meaning, you are agreeing to the TOS/CS and that you're 18 and over. But, if you have defrauded LL by agreeing to these terms, you actually have something to lose this time. Come the next time you sign up after being banned and try to verify again, surely, flags will be raised. (^_^)y

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Colette Meiji

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07-05-2009 19:00

From: Imnotgoing Sideways

Actually, (adult) age verification is nearly completely defunct. It was a beta project that failed. (^_^)

They still let people verify and have those verify flags though, don't they?

LittleMe Jewell

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07-05-2009 19:05

From: Colette Meiji

They still let people verify and have those verify flags though, don't they?

Yeah, which is a major problem since it is all screwed up and does not work right

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Colette Meiji

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07-05-2009 19:08

From: LittleMe Jewell

Yeah, which is a major problem since it is all screwed up and does not work right

So kinda like everything else.

Jannae Karas

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07-05-2009 19:14

From: Colette Meiji

So kinda like everything else.

Thanks for posting Colette. Somehow this Fred thread slipped right by me until now.

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Cherry Czervik

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07-06-2009 00:24

From: Fred Hegel

Well that's what I'm saying! With an age verification system in place for all Main Grid users we can prevent this kind of nonsense for happening!

Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have!

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Lance Corrimal

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07-06-2009 00:54

would that mean that fred hegel is going to disappear?
if so, i vote "yea".

Rhonda Huntress

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07-06-2009 06:37

From: Fred Hegel

If teens can now login to the Mainland and the Teen grid... logically shouldn't it follow that they should only be allowed on the Teen grid and everyone on the Mainland should be age verified?

If (false statement) then logically (any statment).

The entirity is false. It does not matter what the final statement is since it will never be reached. If wishes were horses then beggers would ride. Well, wishes are not horses and teens are not allowed on the mainland.

Mjolnir Uriza

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07-06-2009 06:41

From: Cherry Czervik

Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have!

Maybe not 30 ... 25 or 27 maybe, but not 30. but then I know alot of 28 year old unable to fuction well and take care of themselfs ...Mmmm

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07-06-2009 07:10

From: Fred Hegel

That's what I'm saying Ceka! The LL restrictions are not enough! They need to go further! Adult Verification for everyone on the Main Grid!!

LOL to quote Cyn Linden from a Brown Bag Meeting

http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Second_Adult_Definitions_meeting

From: someone

And then there's another question that as just posed also about age verification, and someone potentially submitting someone else's credentials. That obviously can happen. There's no bullet-proof way physically for any Internet site or virtual world - us or anyone else - to verify that the credentials being submitted match the person sitting at the screen. That's just a simple fact.

Unless you're getting into some biometric solution, that's a simple fact of life. So what we're doing is the best technology that's available. We're trying not to make it burdensome on people. We think we're doing a - if there's problems with it, we want to know about those problems.

As LL are 'seen' to be doing things then that is OK as far as the law is concerned imo, its the dam parents that should take their responsibilities more seriously, not us, not LL. The internet is not a baby sitter

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07-06-2009 09:22

From: Cherry Czervik

Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have!

That's a good idea!

Hi Cherry

Pleased you're back on the forums.

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LittleMe Jewell

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07-06-2009 09:51

From: Mjolnir Uriza

Maybe not 30 ... 25 or 27 maybe, but not 30. but then I know alot of 28 year old unable to fuction well and take care of themselfs ...Mmmm

I know a few 40 and 50 yr olds like that.

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Brenda Connolly Un United Avatar Join date: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 25,000	07-05-2009 08:04 From: Lance Corrimal starting to wonder if "bullshitting the forums" is AR-able under "disturbing the peace". If this were the case, almost all of us would wound up in the dock at one time or another. _____________________ Don't you ever try to look behind my eyes. You don't want to know what they have seen. http://brenda-connolly.blogspot.com
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	07-05-2009 09:48 From: Fred Hegel Well if so then why the repetition of effort in terms of adult verification?! Marketing. They want to look good for the businesses they imagine are just chomping at the bit to get into SL once they remove the porn from the mainland. If only they would do the same for the businesses that are chomping at the bit waiting for a more reliable grid, better in-world tools, less lag, less inventory loss, and everything else that makes the SL experience unpredictable. _____________________ Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/ "And now I'm going to show you something really cool." Skyhook Station - http://xrl.us/skyhook23 Coonspiracy Store - http://xrl.us/coonstore
Imnotgoing Sideways Can't outlaw cute! =^-^= Join date: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 4,694	07-05-2009 09:56 From: Fred Hegel That's what I'm saying Ceka! The LL restrictions are not enough! They need to go further! Adult Verification for everyone on the Main Grid!! Actually, (adult) age verification is nearly completely defunct. It was a beta project that failed. (^_^) Currently, LL is meeting legal standards by relying on account verification. Meaning, you are agreeing to the TOS/CS and that you're 18 and over. But, if you have defrauded LL by agreeing to these terms, you actually have something to lose this time. Come the next time you sign up after being banned and try to verify again, surely, flags will be raised. (^_^)y _____________________ Somewhere in this world; there is someone having some good clean fun doing the one thing you hate the most. (^_^)y http://slurl.com/secondlife/Ferguson/54/237/94
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	07-05-2009 19:00 From: Imnotgoing Sideways Actually, (adult) age verification is nearly completely defunct. It was a beta project that failed. (^_^) They still let people verify and have those verify flags though, don't they?
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	07-05-2009 19:05 From: Colette Meiji They still let people verify and have those verify flags though, don't they? Yeah, which is a major problem since it is all screwed up and does not work right _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	07-05-2009 19:08 From: LittleMe Jewell Yeah, which is a major problem since it is all screwed up and does not work right So kinda like everything else.
Jannae Karas Just Looking Join date: 10 Mar 2007 Posts: 1,516	07-05-2009 19:14 From: Colette Meiji So kinda like everything else. Thanks for posting Colette. Somehow this Fred thread slipped right by me until now. _____________________ Taller Than I Imagined, nicer than yesterday.
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	07-06-2009 00:24 From: Fred Hegel Well that's what I'm saying! With an age verification system in place for all Main Grid users we can prevent this kind of nonsense for happening! Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have! _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Lance Corrimal I don't do stupid. Join date: 9 Jun 2006 Posts: 877	07-06-2009 00:54 would that mean that fred hegel is going to disappear? if so, i vote "yea".
Rhonda Huntress Kitteh Herder Join date: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 1,823	07-06-2009 06:37 From: Fred Hegel If teens can now login to the Mainland and the Teen grid... logically shouldn't it follow that they should only be allowed on the Teen grid and everyone on the Mainland should be age verified? If (false statement) then logically (any statment). The entirity is false. It does not matter what the final statement is since it will never be reached. If wishes were horses then beggers would ride. Well, wishes are not horses and teens are not allowed on the mainland.
Mjolnir Uriza Hammer of the Gods Join date: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 504	07-06-2009 06:41 From: Cherry Czervik Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have! Maybe not 30 ... 25 or 27 maybe, but not 30. but then I know alot of 28 year old unable to fuction well and take care of themselfs ...Mmmm
Lord Sullivan DTC at all times :) Join date: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 2,870	07-06-2009 07:10 From: Fred Hegel That's what I'm saying Ceka! The LL restrictions are not enough! They need to go further! Adult Verification for everyone on the Main Grid!! LOL to quote Cyn Linden from a Brown Bag Meeting http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Second_Adult_Definitions_meeting From: someone And then there's another question that as just posed also about age verification, and someone potentially submitting someone else's credentials. That obviously can happen. There's no bullet-proof way physically for any Internet site or virtual world - us or anyone else - to verify that the credentials being submitted match the person sitting at the screen. That's just a simple fact. Unless you're getting into some biometric solution, that's a simple fact of life. So what we're doing is the best technology that's available. We're trying not to make it burdensome on people. We think we're doing a - if there's problems with it, we want to know about those problems. As LL are 'seen' to be doing things then that is OK as far as the law is concerned imo, its the dam parents that should take their responsibilities more seriously, not us, not LL. The internet is not a baby sitter _____________________ Independent Shopping for Second Life residents from established and new merchants. http://slapt.me slapt.me - In-World HQ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Bastet/123/118/26
Deira Llanfair Deira to rhyme with Myra Join date: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,315	07-06-2009 09:22 From: Cherry Czervik Let's ban teenagers!!!!!! YAY!!! I mean really ban them. Let's lock them up in their rooms until they are a nice safe age - let's say 30. What a nice balanced healthy society we would have! That's a good idea! Hi Cherry Pleased you're back on the forums. _____________________ Deira Must create animations for head-desk and palm-face!.
LittleMe Jewell ........... Join date: 8 Oct 2007 Posts: 11,319	07-06-2009 09:51 From: Mjolnir Uriza Maybe not 30 ... 25 or 27 maybe, but not 30. but then I know alot of 28 year old unable to fuction well and take care of themselfs ...Mmmm I know a few 40 and 50 yr olds like that. _____________________ ♥♥♥ -Lil Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it? ~Mark Twain~ Optimism is denial, so face the facts and move on. ♥♥♥ Lil's Yard Sale / Inventory Cleanout: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Triggerfish/52/27/22 . http://www.flickr.com/photos/littleme_jewell

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