Is that guy suin "some company we all know and love" still fixing his borked sex beds

I am uncertain what the precise name is, but it's used by professional animators (for animations on screen, not just in SL -- in fact, they were used long before SL). The bodysuit contains markers (forgive my abuse of this technology and my lack of knowing the terms), which relay positioning to a computer program. As you move in the bodysuit, the computer captures positioning of limbs and the entire body. It's really interesting actually.

Animators in SL picked up on it a few years ago, but again, it's a very costly system.

ETA: The information captured on body positioning and movement can be uploaded into an SL animation. Most of the smoother animations in SL are due to "mocap" systems in RL.

I know of at least one professional RL animator (for video animations) who plies his wares and moonlights in SL.

Yeah, I have no reason to doubt that the animations that show Stroker as creator were in fact made by Stroker, and quite likely using MoCap. My guess is that the more recent animations were made that way, by him, although that's just a guess: if I weren't so cheap, I'd buy one of the new ones and compare the animation assets one-for-one with those in a model from, say, 2007.

It's also possible that when he re-opens his island and/or sets up shop in whatever other virtual world he plans, he'll be using all his own stuff, or stuff created for him as works for hire.

But it's all kind of academic, really. Whatever arrangements were made among the partners determined where the businesses are now. Presumably the other players got a good settlement, or at least good enough that they agreed to it at the time, and any remorse would be just "coulda-shoulda".

(Phil: a motion-capture suit records solid geometry positions of tagged body parts as a person moves; these data can then be tortured into an animation that conforms to the SL avatar skeleton. It can lead to smoother, more natural animations than can be readily achieved by just moving around a computer avatar representation in an animation program. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_capture.)

So can the rest of use MLPv2 (and sell items using it) without worrying about being sued?

pretty much common knowledege for years, crack open any stroker sex anything and you'll see who made what. ur an oldie!, ask ur pal S. S. for proof that he has long going consent to include the works of Briggi, Corsi or hell even Mash in any of his current works. The truth is not an attack lmao unless ur lying or have something to hide.

but no worries. we're gonna yap with Briggi Bard for one. see about setting the record straight.

PERSONALLY, I think someone whose business model involves respecting intellectual property rights as little as "that guy suing The Lab" should not pretend to champion content creators rights. I mean whose work is stolen everytime someone steals a Stroker Sex Bed? What was stolen when the name SexGen(R) was registered as a trademark?

Thank you Elric and Qie. I understand now. I also found a good post about it which points out the shortcoming of not getting a smooth loop. My first thought is that it sounds great for thing like dances, but for sex? Considering the limitations that SL imposes, probably not needed for sex anims.

Ricky. There is/was never any legal question about using MLP and MLPV2. The only thing that could fall foul of the law is using animations without permission.

Presumably. There's pretty much no chance of anyone being able to claim patent rights to anything about SL scripted animation, considering the very long history of prior art. As far as I know, nobody has filed any such patent, which leaves trademark and copyright. I've certainly never heard any claim that Miffy Fluffy cribbed off Stroker's / Briggi's scripts (they started out behaving enough differently that this seems utterly implausible anyway)... so if we don't use language confusingly similar to "SexGen" or any other trademarks, I can't see what possible grounds there could be for a complaint. (But: IANAL.)

I also saw the interview Elric saw, which featured Stroker *wearing* the mocap suit, something I didn't need to see IIRC, he made reference to a new generation of furniture that would feature anims he and his model made.

Mocap has come down in price quite a bit - you can get a pretty fully-featured setup for $5K. I don't know the relative quality of capture from the lower-end systems, but I do know that SL does not allow the uploading of extremely detailed animation, so I would think a lower-end mocap system would do just fine. Be interested in hearing from more knowledgable folks on that.

one of the principles (corsi) details the timeline of events of their partnerships dissolution in an interview with me
s removed the split profits script and stopped paying his partners
then he told his partners to sell their own versions of SexGen(R) beds after he had registered the trade mark (naked liscensing), then he told them he'd sue them if they continued to use the name SexGen(R). He continues to use their scripts and anims to this day.

Good grief. All of this info has been posted in forums and reported in blogs. Jumpman, if you fancy yourself as some kind of reporter then perhaps you should just link to some of those so people can read S's own words. It looks to me like you're pretending this info is all uncovered by crack reporters and pried from reluctant witnesses when in fact Stroker has explained all this.

If you're just role-playing a journalist, please say so. If you actually think you are one, then frickin' do the job honestly.

open them all lol. i opened a stroker sex shower that is currently on sale on xstreet that has similar scripts from the owner of depoz , Mash somebody. He did the same thing to this Mash guy. Mash made an excellent water script. he was supposed to get a few lindens off of EVERY shower sold. he recieved such profits for a time then the split script was removed and S. told mash to get on like he been sh@t on!

It's certainly news to me, so posting it wasn't wasted. Perhaps you'd like to do what you suggested that Jumpman do, and post the link to Stroker's own words. I'm interested in that too.

It is artificially crippled. When people create SL animations they have to make movements they don't want just so the upload recognizes something has changed, and ironically this makes the animations larger than they need to be, where the crippling was intended to keep the anims small.

With the open source viewer the crippling can be bypassed, so higher-quality anims can be done without stupid games, though this involves a danger of making anims that are larger than they need to be, and maybe larger than SL can realistically handle, so a good interface should be coded to tell the animator how big the animation is and how it compares to existing, limited anims. I don't know if Stroker has this capability, or knows it's possible.

I'm not a reporter and I don't play one in SL, but a better place to look is on SLU.

I don't use SLU. It would have been interesting to read it.

Profesional systems run $5,000 and up. Amature or home versions are somewhat cheaper. Even free; at least for the software.
http://motion.capture.free.fr/

[ETA]
I believe state of the art mocap is going sonic but you will not be seeing these animations in SL any time soon.

Retelling tales-that is what Slut

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month. Retelling tales that

everyone should know; but, so

very few DO know. In the

recounting, Slut Mag assumes

the role of a debunker of

myths.
-founder's Message volume 3 isssue 6,
current issue Slut magazine

The Redgrave Skin Scandal (where certain Eros functionaries stole Redgrave skins most certainly was a story WE BROKE).

Stroker's borked sex beds (which S. wasnt trying to publicize) was a story WE GAVE to the Herald while passing off the story off stolen Bimbo Cheerleader sex beds (made by S.)

see not everybody knows this stuff. if people DIDNT know it they'd BELIEVE ur pal S. was the content creators champion he most certainly is not.

I know ya down with the Serpentine. Throw ya set up!


heres a link heheheh Corsi debunks the mocap suit thing. When the Amsterdam sim was sold for 10,000 USD stroker was supposed to get a mocap suit and share its use wityh bard and spilt the proceeds with Bard (who is Dutch and is believed to have buitl much of Amsterdam). He didnt give Bard Squat. hardly if ever used the suit. crack open any stroker sex anything and see how many anims were created and used by the stroker team. http://www.slutmaginc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=62

heres a link heheheh Corsi debunks the mocap suit thing. When the Amsterdam sim was sold for 10,000 USD stroker was supposed to get a mocap suit and share its use wityh bard and spilt the proceeds with Bard (who is Dutch and is believed to have buitl much of Amsterdam). He didnt give Bard Squat. hardly if ever used the suit. crack open any stroker sex anything and see how many anims were created and used by the stroker team. http://www.slutmaginc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=50&Itemid=62

/me munches her forbidden fruit

heheheheheheh

i used this formus link to see who was online doing what ans i SAW The Serpentine replying to one of my posts on this crap and i spooked him off lmao. he reads this stuff and could easily respond here...if he wanted to. i dont use slu either caws its tardy though i have an account.
http://forums.secondlife.com/online.php?sort=username&order=asc&pp=25&page=4



heheheh i dont roleplay a reporter. (people who know me will tell ya i suck at rp). we actually produce reportage, here is my fare, Miss I-Need-A-Link! heheheheh
http://www.slutmaginc.com
'we break the stories you dont wanna see!' (tm)

heheheh i dont roleplay a reporter. (people who know me will tell ya i suck at rp). we actually produce reportage, here is my fare, Miss I-Need-A-Link! heheheheh
http://www.slutmaginc.com
'we break the stories you dont wanna see!' (tm)

I remember not long ago people kept using Stroker's name when claiming content creators were doing just fine in the face of content theft, so I made this post...



I'm not so sure he'll re-open his island.

people DO steal stroker sex beds...BUT what are they REALLY stealing but a NeoLove sex base attached to a crappily made bed.

Yes. I know of no suits and can't think of any valid reasons for lawsuits against MLP or MLPV2, as long as makers follow the terms of the GPL license. (To comply, all you have to do is provide the script source to anyone who requests, and be sure to leave the .readme file in your distribution.)

MLP and MLPV2 are not the issue here and never have been. They did get affected by the EvaC event, but that was unintentional.

I was unaware that a hand-grenade was a surgical implement.

They rendered all content created by the EvaC avatar to be unrezzable. As it turns out, this included quite a lot of content that simply contained MLP scripts EvaC had pasted into new scripts (also unwittingly and ignorantly used by me to create MLPV2). Ech, what a disaster!

True, EvaC had also illegitimately distributed a number of animations in violation of licensing (biz in a box scheme). But the move to delete her content did not get rid of these animations.

And it was all, if I understand it correctly, simply because EvaC had used the SexGen name in some products. Ieeesh.

At least LL was trying to do something. Too bad it was the wrong thing. Fortunately they reversed their policy quite quickly after the hubbub started.

(It turns out that in Stoker's lawsuit, there's a reference to this event and it's terribly misleading. Fortunately, the misleading aspects are pretty much irrelevant to the actual claims.)