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Rhaorth Antonelli
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Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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03-28-2009 13:59
does anyone remember what the concurrency was back in 06?
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Lance Corrimal
I don't do stupid.
Join date: 9 Jun 2006
Posts: 877
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03-28-2009 14:14
does anyone remember what the concurrency was back in 06? i dont know about '06, didnt login much until spring of '07, but back then the concurrency was somewhere around 15000 on busy days, and after some rag had an "article" about sex in SL, and lots of newbies joined to "get some", all hell broke loose every evening (SL time) when the concurrency would reach 25000. these days, 25000 would mean "something must be wrong, hardly noone online..." |
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Dana Hickman
Leather & Laceā¢
Join date: 10 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,515
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03-28-2009 14:39
I am not looking forward to new meshes as that will mean remaking my avatar shape which has had the same face and shape since February 2004. New meshes means totally starting all over again and messing with SL shapes is not an easy task. If they offered use of the new meshes as a checkbox option in preferrences, nobody would have to remake anything unless they wanted to and both camps would be happy Although I've been hoping for proper AV meshes for a long time, I'll have to agree with most that the work that's getting done on concurrency, compatability, stability, assets, etc.. is the most important at this point. |
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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Join date: 30 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,534
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03-28-2009 16:05
I love this thread so much.
I wonder if OP is an alt of M Linden just trying to troll people into sending him love. I agree with everyone though, SL is a LOT more stable now and that's because they've been improving the underlying infrastructure and processes. Absolutely the right decision and exactly what most people were begging for. _____________________
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bigmoe Whitfield
I>3 Foxes
Join date: 29 Jul 2007
Posts: 459
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03-29-2009 01:51
My shoes don't get stuck to my ass every time I teleport now. That's an improvement. try paws and head up your ass and having your tail stick out of your chest lol. I sooo do not miss those days at all _____________________
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Ephraim Kappler
Reprobate
Join date: 9 Jul 2007
Posts: 1,946
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03-29-2009 02:39
I agree that it's best to stabilise things before adding any new bells and whistles.
I'd like to see some technical advancement on having terrain and objects draw fast enough, with proper textures, to give me the impression that I'm in a persistent virtual world, and to have sim crossing work so well I feel like I'm in a continuous space rather than crossing from one zone to another. That would be the single most useful improvement, in my opinion. I hardly bother to tour around SL these days because of the issues with sim crossing. Forget motorbiking: I seem to be incapable of even walking across some region borders. However, it would be great to have a better avatar mesh eventually. I like the idea of being able to create our own - with a poly limit of course. I guess customised avatar meshes would be problematic in terms of using new clothing and skin textures from third party sources but I'm not that interested in doing business in SL. I play RL for cash. Perhaps it could be a matter of choice? |
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Rhaorth Antonelli
Registered User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 7,425
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03-29-2009 03:05
i dont know about '06, didnt login much until spring of '07, but back then the concurrency was somewhere around 15000 on busy days, and after some rag had an "article" about sex in SL, and lots of newbies joined to "get some", all hell broke loose every evening (SL time) when the concurrency would reach 25000. these days, 25000 would mean "something must be wrong, hardly noone online..." I was thinking around 10,000. with your figures for early 07, 10,000 would make sense for 06 _____________________
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Emily Aries
Unregistered user.
Join date: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 11
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03-29-2009 11:11
I think a good technological advancement would be to get more than the average 15fps with an ATI 4870X2. SL only ever seems to use a third of one GPU. I always use the latest RC and usually update my drivers every couple of weeks. I did a fresh OS install a couple of months ago. Nothing makes the slightest difference. I've seen faster slideshows.
I am grateful that the viewer doesn't crash as much any more, but I do wish they would hurry up with shadows, pixel shading, and a new avatar mesh. Further more does anyone know what happened to the fabled nimble volumetric clouds that were mentioned a long long time ago? And I thought we were supposed to be getting new default walking animations to replace the ghastly duckwalk? |
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Wandered Miles
Registered User
Join date: 9 Dec 2008
Posts: 159
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03-29-2009 11:18
Second Life needs cheaper sims already!
Cheaper sims=More space, less overcrowding.less demand on the rendering engine and less demand on Frank's LLNet. We need cheaper sims immediately. I'll call Phil.. |
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Wandered Miles
Registered User
Join date: 9 Dec 2008
Posts: 159
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03-29-2009 11:19
No answer..
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Feral Mistwalker
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2009
Posts: 88
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03-29-2009 16:57
less overcrowding LOL, I hope you're joking. I rarely run into another avatar no matter what time of day it is, except at hot spots like Bare Rose. |
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Johan Laurasia
Fully Rezzed
Join date: 31 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,394
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03-29-2009 19:32
Well, new bells and whistles are always cool, but when there were adding sculpties, windlight, and voice all at the same time, all hell broke loose, and SL was borked on and off constantly, but overall though, I too am in agreement that concentrating on the basics, or at least what's in place, and continue to hone that. Stability is a major issue, and I'm willing to have new features added more slowly in exchange for improved stability.
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Wandered Miles
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Join date: 9 Dec 2008
Posts: 159
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03-29-2009 22:51
LOL, I hope you're joking. I rarely run into another avatar no matter what time of day it is, except at hot spots like Bare Rose. Not people, buildings!!. The mainland is overcrowded with buildings. and mismatched buildings too!. ![]() |
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Feral Mistwalker
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2009
Posts: 88
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03-29-2009 23:36
Not people, buildings!!. The mainland is overcrowded with buildings. and mismatched buildings too!. ![]() Easy fix, get an island or hunt around for nice mainland. My friend had a beautiful mainland protected oceanfront plot that most people built in theme around (except for a couple people) with lots of open space around it. I found a beautiful forested area that most are building to fit into the environment and is on very old mainland. Heck, even Jessie has an overall theme that people build within, and plenty of open space. If an area is overcrowded then just don't buy land there. Overcrowded ugly mainland is quickly becoming a thing of the past, I suggest you explore a little. |
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Wandered Miles
Registered User
Join date: 9 Dec 2008
Posts: 159
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03-29-2009 23:46
Easy fix, get an island or hunt around for nice mainland. My friend had a beautiful mainland protected oceanfront plot that most people built in theme around (except for a couple people) with lots of open space around it. I found a beautiful forested area that most are building to fit into the environment and is on very old mainland. Heck, even Jessie has an overall theme that people build within, and plenty of open space. If an area is overcrowded then just don't buy land there. Overcrowded ugly mainland is quickly becoming a thing of the past, I suggest you explore a little. Easy fix, get an island? Island prices are truly insane!!! Let me repeat - INsANE!!! (oh god, I wish we had bigger fonts) The fact that people put up with the mainland shows just how insane island prices are. Most mainlanders would love to have an island, but thanfully they're not InSANE!! enough to buy one. |
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Feral Mistwalker
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2009
Posts: 88
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03-30-2009 10:10
Easy fix, get an island? Island prices are truly insane!!! Let me repeat - INsANE!!! (oh god, I wish we had bigger fonts) The fact that people put up with the mainland shows just how insane island prices are. Most mainlanders would love to have an island, but thanfully they're not InSANE!! enough to buy one. I've lived on islands, boring to the extream. I much prefer the mainland. I like having neighbors and seeing the imaginative builds. Sure, there are always problems, like the occasional for sale sign and bad neighbor. But I've been lucky, my neighbors seem to be decent people (although the gor couple that like having sex out in the open are a wee bit unnerving, I've gotten used to them) and the builds are rather nice. Who really wants to live somewhere where every house is exactly the same? It's like those creepy suburbs where you can't tell your house from any of your 100 neighbors. Maybe if you wander more then you might find some nice mainland too. |
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Wandered Miles
Registered User
Join date: 9 Dec 2008
Posts: 159
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03-30-2009 10:18
I've lived on islands, boring to the extream. I much prefer the mainland. I like having neighbors and seeing the imaginative builds. Sure, there are always problems, like the occasional for sale sign and bad neighbor. But I've been lucky, my neighbors seem to be decent people (although the gor couple that like having sex out in the open are a wee bit unnerving, I've gotten used to them) and the builds are rather nice. Who really wants to live somewhere where every house is exactly the same? It's like those creepy suburbs where you can't tell your house from any of your 100 neighbors. Maybe if you wander more then you might find some nice mainland too. We're wandering here. ![]() The original point was that overall rendering and network performance in SL is very poor. More space between builds will help fix that. |
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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03-30-2009 10:21
Not people, buildings!!. The mainland is overcrowded with buildings. and mismatched buildings too!. ![]() ![]() |
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Feral Mistwalker
Registered User
Join date: 2 Mar 2009
Posts: 88
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03-30-2009 22:32
What we need is a prim tax. ![]() Don't give them any ideas, we don't need to see that happen ever again. |
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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03-31-2009 04:14
Damned if you do damned if you don't. Concurrency couldn't reach 80,000 when the new CEO joined. Stability has improved. These are your basics, you get the basics right and then advance. Well concurrency is also do do with the Massbotting cancer across the grid too, seeing there's been no formal disaproval so far, it's become a free for all, stuff the moraality of cheating, everyone else is doing it. _____________________
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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03-31-2009 05:41
I think it's been a good move to concentrate on sorting bugs we have for a while, but soon we will need some new stuff, to kick the economy going with new features, SL is graphiocs intensive and I fully expect to build another PC next year to keep up. 2years old is a little stale for a gaming PC, and SL needs gaming PC specs, not 6yo word processors.
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Nuku Nemeth
this title says nothing
Join date: 15 Jun 2007
Posts: 25
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03-31-2009 09:09
Are we ever going to see any progress or is this new CEO just interested in making money, i want Philip Linden back he might not have done things the best way but at least he tried to keep SL up to timeswait what happend to philip? O.o he like get caned or something? |
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RemacuTetigisti Quandry
Diogenes Group
Join date: 3 Jun 2008
Posts: 99
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03-31-2009 09:57
Has anyone else noticed that absolutely no technological advanced since the new CEO joined, . . . _____________________
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Lindal Kidd
Dances With Noobs
Join date: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 8,371
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03-31-2009 10:53
Well concurrency is also do do with the Massbotting cancer across the grid too, seeing there's been no formal disaproval so far, it's become a free for all, stuff the moraality of cheating, everyone else is doing it. Sure, a lot of the concurrency number is bots, but that isn't the point. The point is that the grid can now support higher concurrencies than just a few months ago. Bots are a Bad Thing...but the better grid stability and capacity is a Good Thing. /me fetches your reading glasses, a nice cup of hot tea, and the newest edition of "Evil Genius Monthly". _____________________
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Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
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04-01-2009 03:31
Sure, a lot of the concurrency number is bots, but that isn't the point. The point is that the grid can now support higher concurrencies than just a few months ago. Bots are a Bad Thing...but the better grid stability and capacity is a Good Thing. /me fetches your reading glasses, a nice cup of hot tea, and the newest edition of "Evil Genius Monthly". Yes but saying the grid can support 50,000 bots isn't much when an extra 5000 real avatars jumping about instead will crash it ![]() /me thanks you and sips a wonderful cup of tea, looks with interest on "evil things to do when bored article" 1. Dob someone in falsely for tax evasion. 2. Carve your name in the Moon in 50km high letters with a steam powered laser scalpel. 3. Create a rumor about an adult only continent on the Forums. _____________________
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