Have the ResMods gotten Cranky?
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Dana Hickman
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10-25-2007 20:40
From: Brenda Connolly I generall supprt Strife's actions. I think they do a difficult job reasonable well. Some decisions I question, but overall it's OK. That particular thread was closed at the right time, in my opinion. I'll second that... I'm an Asst admin on a gaming forum much like this one, and I can tell you without a doubt that moderator is a shitty shitty job. It's a thankless, time-consuming job where rules dont bend, your comments are ALWAYS skewed or taken out of context, and where judgement and tact are your only tools to complete your duties without offending people or driving them away. I would wager the main reason Strife jumps in and axes a thread dead around here is because people dont listen. If Strife was to tactfully ask that a thread stay on topic, or to cut the bickering, do you have ANY doubt people on this forum would continue on as if his/her request was ever posted? I don't. If accountability to LL dictates that Strife shouldn't throw the big ego smackdown on individuals and chastize them in public for their actions, the only recourse at Mod level is to close the thread. That's just how it works. I would hire Strife as a Mod or Super Mod if we had an opening.
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Isablan Neva
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10-25-2007 20:41
I leave it to the reader to apply as applicable: 
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Brenda Connolly
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10-25-2007 21:18
From: Isablan Neva I leave it to the reader to apply as applicable:  He he...you creative types crack me up sometimes
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Talarus Luan
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10-25-2007 21:48
I suppose every forum needs its mascot troll, who hates authority just because it is what it is and needs to be, and has no qualms pointing out daily how much it hates said authority. Strife's not concerned over it; he knows the score... It is too bad, really, because some things I can (and have) agreed with, but the relentless quixotic incursions just destroy any and all credibility, even for the things that I would consider are meaningful causes. Oh well, tilt on! It's a good reason to go pop another bag of popcorn, at the very least. 
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Chas Connolly
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10-26-2007 00:19
From: Malachi Petunia You're fucking kidding, right? Just how long can you nurse a misguided grude? I've never nursed a misguided grude in my life. What's it like?
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Strife Onizuka
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10-26-2007 00:47
VooDoo, your vote of confidence was unexpected and is greatly appreciated as is everyone else's.
You do this job long enough and you realize that it wouldn't be fun to abuse the power granted, it would in fact only create more work and headache. At the first hint of impropriety there are people who want your head skewered on a spike.
At this point the threads is mostly Malachi vs. Everyone Else. I can't condone people ganging up on one person, especially when that one person sees me as an enemy. I would appreciate it if the discussion shifted away from bashing Malachi (strictly speaking it's a type of Private Discussion).
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Chas Connolly
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10-26-2007 00:52
Hey Strife, Malachi did ask.
And this goes way beyond his picking on you. It's about people using these forums to air their personal grievances.
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Marty Starbrook
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10-26-2007 05:22
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Nina Stepford
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10-26-2007 06:36
aww mal is picking on strife  dunno what your malfunction is mal. if you think strife is bad... god forbid i ever hold such a position. an i have no doubt strife is male hey 
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Nina Stepford
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10-26-2007 06:37
that would be a violation of the cartel code of ethics, "keeping forum disputes in the forum". may as well break the rule about banning adcutters too.... oh, nevermind! From: Marty Starbrook Quote: Originally Posted by Malachi Petunia You're fucking kidding, right? Just how long can you nurse a misguided grude? Hold on one second everybody ...... this is getting a little out of hand, if we cant be civil to each other then say nothing. If you want to have a slanging match then do it in world. The thing about anything in life is that people have differences of opinions good or bad... never mind mega threads on th word Gay/ghey what ever ..... how about the political correctness of just being bloody civil... *sigh* 
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JessyAnne Theas
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10-26-2007 06:40
From: Jessica Elytis I give Strife bonus points for humor when locking threads (or just when commenting on them in general). If things like that get to you, buy new panties (see Brenda, she may be able to assist there), because yours twist too easily. And on a more serious note; We all really don't want Strife to leave and should support him/her as we can. Why? LL isn't moderating the forums, and they're not giving Strife any help to do it either. Want to take bets on if Strife goes, so does teh forum? Then all we'd be left with is that useless (I'll repeat that for the Lindens) useless blog. So thank you Strife. ~Jessy IBTL You're my hero
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Nika Talaj
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10-26-2007 06:41
I look at the "age" of the two avatars here, look at the ongoing conflict between them just since I've been reading the forums, and I know I do not understand what is going on here. I simply don't have enough information to know where Mal is coming from, or why Strife behaves as s/he does.
But I know how to defuse resentment caused by authority. I suspect there would be less conflict if forum moderation/review were more transparent. Let me suggest two tiny steps toward that:
-- Report forum banning actions unambiguously on the police blotter. Where is Jumpy? Is he gone forever? Is he gone inworld as well? Such wonderings cause uneasiness, and contribute to resentment. Edit: it would be best to make known the name of the avatar banned, which I believe the blotter does not allow So, some other means ... perhaps a single thread in the moderation forum.
-- Strife, do a status update on your "submitting names for new resmods" thread. Even if you have no clue what is up with the Lindens, to simply say nothing to those who volunteered is lacking in respect toward them. Just say whatever you know. TIA.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-26-2007 06:42
From: Nina Stepford that would be a violation of the cartel code of ethics, "keeping forum disputes in the forum". may as well break the rule about banning adcutters too.... oh, nevermind! As long as the slapfight occurs off the premises it is OK.
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Malachi Petunia
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10-26-2007 07:15
From: Strife Onizuka I would appreciate it if the discussion shifted away from bashing Malachi (strictly speaking it's a type of Private Discussion). One that you have steadfastly refused to entertain privately. No, you don't owe me an audience, but you could have granted me one. You didn't, and instead took the issue out to the public forum. Thanks for that; it really helped. And incidentally, it has nothing to do with Strife per se. It is that Strife is the last bastion in a failed enterprise that I'd argued against for years. Check out my discussions (I use the term loosely) with Jeska Linden if you wish. Strife's got it easy, comparatively. That he'll neither abdicate or work toward the improvement of his own position is something I don't understand. Strife and I were brief business associates in the long ago, I had no reason to dislike him then; indeed I was quite laudatory and appreciative and supportive of his kinetic art. I have no reason to dislike him now; I abhor the role he has placed himself in. I realize that I personalized this more than I should have, had there been a team of ResMods, or a Linden back in the chair, it would have been more appropriate.
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3Ring Binder
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10-26-2007 07:18
my ignore list just keeps getting longer and longer. 
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JessyAnne Theas
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10-26-2007 07:23
From: 3Ring Binder my ignore list just keeps getting longer and longer.  Wanna play "Go Fish" and see if ours match? 
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Argent Asbrink
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10-26-2007 07:27
I think Strife has a pretty d*mn thankless job...and does it well.
That having been said...LL needs to get off it's fat hippie *ss and provide a general discussion "forum of record" for their product.
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Brenda Connolly
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10-26-2007 07:36
From: Argent Asbrink I think Strife has a pretty d*mn thankless job...and does it well.
That having been said...LL needs to get off it's fat hippie *ss and provide a general discussion "forum of record" for their product. /me makes a note to never thank Strife...and to take back any she may have given them....
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Raymond Figtree
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10-26-2007 07:36
From: Malachi Petunia And incidentally, it has nothing to do with Strife per se. It is that Strife is the last bastion in a failed enterprise that I'd argued against for years. Keep arguing against it publically, and I'll keep arguing FOR it. You are helping to see it fail. The General Discussion forum is already gone. I like this forum and think it's helping people overall. If you don't think so, leave. Or make the enterprise better by using all your experience in SL to answer resident questions.
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Lexxi Gynoid
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10-26-2007 07:38
From: 3Ring Binder my ignore list just keeps getting longer and longer.  Ack. With people quoting people the ignore list doesn't work as well as it could. 
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Colette Meiji
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10-26-2007 07:49
From: Raymond Figtree Keep arguing against here publically, and I'll keep arguing FOR it.
You are helping to see it fail.
I like this forum and think it's helping people overall. If you don't think so, leave. The whole <I told you how to fix the forums, I used to tell them, but since none of you listen to me, the forums should die!> really comes off as the logic of an 8 year old to me.
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JessyAnne Theas
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10-26-2007 07:53
"Screw you, I'm goin home!"
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Colette Meiji
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10-26-2007 07:56
From: JessyAnne Theas "Screw you, I'm goin home!" And I'm taking my toys with me! AND I'm telling my Mom, you'll be sorry.
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Chas Connolly
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10-26-2007 08:03
My Dad's bigger than your Dad!
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Sally Silvera
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10-26-2007 08:12
From: Colette Meiji And I'm taking my toys with me! AND I'm telling my Mom, you'll be sorry. My big brother is stronger than your mom
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