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"Killing" on property

Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
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01-29-2008 23:56
I do NOT prevent avitars from being killed on my property but am seeing this less and less as I zoom around - why?
Aren't we making SL just a little too "safe" and too "normal"?
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Novis Dyrssen
Girl Geek
Join date: 6 May 2007
Posts: 1,452
01-30-2008 00:29
It is already safe because all that actually happens to the avatar is getting tp'ed home. I for one would still dislike getting shot while buying hair...
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Casper Priestman
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Join date: 27 Nov 2006
Posts: 144
01-30-2008 03:15
Yeah, nothing beats sitting on the deck of the house with a cold brewski and posting a 50L ad for camping chairs while loading up the weapons.... PULL!
Rioko Bamaisin
Unstable Princess
Join date: 16 Aug 2007
Posts: 4,668
01-30-2008 03:21
From: Casper Priestman
Yeah, nothing beats sitting on the deck of the house with a cold brewski and posting a 50L ad for camping chairs while loading up the weapons.... PULL!




Must try that the next time I am bored on a Friday night.:)
Crazod Zehetbauer
Registered User
Join date: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 47
01-30-2008 04:24
*shoots jig*
Chav Paderborn
in ur sl
Join date: 25 Nov 2006
Posts: 192
01-30-2008 04:48
From: Jig Chippewa
I do NOT prevent avitars from being killed on my property but am seeing this less and less as I zoom around - why?
Aren't we making SL just a little too "safe" and too "normal"?


Because it'd be really annoying to get killed when you're out shopping. What would be the point?
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Ceera Murakami
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
Posts: 7,750
01-30-2008 07:13
From: Jig Chippewa
I do NOT prevent avitars from being killed on my property but am seeing this less and less as I zoom around - why?
Aren't we making SL just a little too "safe" and too "normal"?
I am not a free-fire target for any jackass that has a weapon. I do not, EVER, intentionally go to places that are damage enabled. I am not in SL to do combat, and I do not consent to anyone attacking me.

If I see the parcel I am on is not "safe", if I see that damage is enabled, then I get the hell out of there ASAP, and any stores or neat places on that parcel will never get seen by me or get my business.

If you want to turn your land into a free-fire zone, be my guest. But you'll never find me there voluntarily, and you'll lose a lot of business.
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2k Suisei
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Join date: 9 Nov 2006
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01-30-2008 07:20
From: Chav Paderborn
Because it'd be really annoying to get killed when you're out shopping. What would be the point?


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Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
01-30-2008 07:23
If I would like to be killed by other players I would play Lineage II or something like that. Even when death doesn't mean a thing in SL I prefer to stay away from it.

Morwen.
Jethro Stubbs
Mainlander
Join date: 21 Jan 2007
Posts: 240
01-30-2008 07:32
From: Chav Paderborn
Because it'd be really annoying to get killed when you're out shopping. What would be the point?


Yo, yo, just trying to keep it real homie, just trying to keep it keep it real.
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
01-30-2008 07:36
From: Jethro Stubbs
just trying to keep it keep it real.


In a world where you can fly and change looks in seconds by changing skin and shape?

:P
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01-30-2008 07:56
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Alice Katayama
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Join date: 29 Jun 2006
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01-30-2008 08:19
I do not want to be Killed, raped or robbed.... if that is playing it too safe... well I play real life that way too.
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Royce Boa
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Join date: 1 Apr 2007
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01-30-2008 10:07
From: Jig Chippewa
I do NOT prevent avitars from being killed on my property but am seeing this less and less as I zoom around - why?
Aren't we making SL just a little too "safe" and too "normal"?


I had SL damage enabled on my land for a while, but my customers were complaining that they were in the middle of deciding what weapon to purchase, and suddenly they would get shot and sent home.
Rebecca Proudhon
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Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
01-30-2008 10:34
There should be a pvp grid, where people can consent to all that. Otherwise, keep it out of the main grid.

Assinine and totally inconsiderate people need banning using any method possible tp prevent them from starting up another account.

LL has to get serious.

Don't they get embarrased when news reporters on TV doing stories on SL are getting griefed on the air?
Morwen Bunin
Everybody needs a hero!
Join date: 8 Dec 2005
Posts: 1,743
01-30-2008 10:44
Before my break there were enough area where people could engage in fights. So in my opinion no need for a special PvP grid. There are enough games out there that dedicated to PvP (and from I stay a long distance away).

Morwen.
Czari Zenovka
I've Had it With "PC"!
Join date: 3 May 2007
Posts: 3,688
01-30-2008 10:45
Awhile back my Partner and I were checking out Japanese weapons (swords, throwing stars, etc.) I noticed a tp to a combat area within the sim and was curious what a Japanese-type combat area would be like.

We tp'd to the arena. No one was there initially and it was just a large round area - not impressive looking at all. Then this guy showed up and initiated some combat system that looked like part stage, part laser light show, all kinds of sounds, particles, etc. Plus he was wearing sharp knife-looking things all over his clothes. My Partner and I activated our Mystitool non-physical vehicles, stepped into them, and proceeded to eat popcorn and drink soda while watching a fairly amusing display of one strange (but oddly intriguing) weapons display.
Takahiro Murasaki
Gay Neko Boy
Join date: 30 Jun 2006
Posts: 161
01-30-2008 13:22
From: Chav Paderborn
Because it'd be really annoying to get killed when you're out shopping. What would be the point?


unless you've already made your purchases
Har Fairweather
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
Posts: 2,320
01-30-2008 14:00
I have an antigriefer alt that goes looking for griefers in places they are likely to be, like public sandboxes, and I am seeing a dropoff in griefer activity too. Lately I see as many fellow antigriefers around, or more, as I see griefers. I've been thinking maybe we were just driving them away to other sims where people are less prepared. But if other places are reporting the same or less grief, maybe we're actually making progress against the b-tards?

BTW, since a thread here in Resident Answers a few weeks ago about Waterhead, where adolescent grief-kiddies were always in full sway, I'm happy to report things have changed. Not only have more established Residents showed up to help newbies and discourage idiots, but the Lindens have been radically more active there too. And now the newbie point of entry is no-build, no-script, making griefers almost powerless, except for bumping and verbal abuse through chat, etc. Which LL is acting on too, I've noticed on Incident Reports. Looks like we've done some good here. : )
Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
01-30-2008 14:22
I have never minded a bit of aggro in sl. After all, if we keep this too intensely safe we are gonna be forced into watching re-runs of Leave It to Beaver for excitement. I think making my land damage enabled makes it just a little bit MORE real. As I have always avered, the day I am killed will be the day I leave SL. Yonks ago my very first partner left that way. I admired the cleanliness of it and the finality. I think it makes SL more of a risk and more gritty. My partner gets furious (and makes typing errors) when I talk to him about this - but life doesnt give you many chances. SL can BUT it makes each time I am on just a little more "edgy". And please dont worry, I dont go around smacking off my uzis and street sweepers just for the hell of it!
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Ordinal Malaprop
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Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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01-30-2008 14:47
For a while I had all of my parcels damage-enabled. I never encountered any issues, because the sort of customers that I have are civilised types who know not to point firearms at other people unless they are in a position of actually needing to. This is despite the fact that I sell a variety of weapons, amongst other things.

Unfortunately, given that I frequently test all sorts of potentially SL-lethal devices on my parcels, I was forced to turn this off, as otherwise it would have caused me great inconvenience.
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Trout Recreant
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Join date: 24 Jul 2007
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01-30-2008 15:15
From: Jig Chippewa
I have never minded a bit of aggro in sl. After all, if we keep this too intensely safe we are gonna be forced into watching re-runs of Leave It to Beaver for excitement. I think making my land damage enabled makes it just a little bit MORE real. As I have always avered, the day I am killed will be the day I leave SL. Yonks ago my very first partner left that way. I admired the cleanliness of it and the finality. I think it makes SL more of a risk and more gritty. My partner gets furious (and makes typing errors) when I talk to him about this - but life doesnt give you many chances. SL can BUT it makes each time I am on just a little more "edgy". And please dont worry, I dont go around smacking off my uzis and street sweepers just for the hell of it!


Waaaaaiiitt a minute. Are you saying the day something or someone in SL kills you, you will leave SL? You're kidding, right? You know if you get killed you TP home. You don't lose your stuff or anything. You just tp home. Why on earth, with all the great games to play that could kill you, would you be willing to limit yourself like that? Can I suggest you stay away from the Carnival of Doom and I Am Legend Sims? Also, no RP in a lot of Western or Vampire sims. There are other places to avoid. I'll let you find them. What about being griefed? What if a griefer sts you on fire and orbits you or something? Also, I have to respecfully decline any request you might make for a biplane ride. Others have enjoyed them greatly, but they are almost always fatal.

Look - I'm not saying you're lying. You may actually intend to leave SL if your avatar gets killed, but honestly, I bet you change your tune when you actually do get killed and are looking at the prospect of leaving your friends and going to find some other way to have fun on the internet.

I'm not leaving. Kill me all you want. In fact, I want to go hang out with Ordinal and watch her test stuff. It sounds very interesting and dangerous.
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01-30-2008 16:55
From: Morwen Bunin
Before my break there were enough area where people could engage in fights. So in my opinion no need for a special PvP grid. There are enough games out there that dedicated to PvP (and from I stay a long distance away).

Morwen.


I understand there SHOULD be no reason to make a pvp grid, but face the facts there are millions of people who spend 12 hours a day killing things in virtual worlds and they see SL as a joke, where they can play and create havoc. They are trained killing machines with little or no other life.

Either ban them totally forever, with no easy ways to make another account. or make a pvp grid and ban them forever if they break the rules.
Macha Morigi
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Join date: 15 Sep 2007
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01-30-2008 17:00
From: Jig Chippewa
As I have always avered, the day I am killed will be the day I leave SL.



Uhhh, Jig (looks round nervously)... if I were you I'd keep that quiet... y'know..?

;)
Brenda Connolly
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01-30-2008 17:10
From: Macha Morigi
Uhhh, Jig (looks round nervously)... if I were you I'd keep that quiet... y'know..?

;)

/me tries to divert Bradley's attention
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