Dancer's Policy

True but if multiple people are tipping the dancer should strip items as each tip comes in, possibly flinging a glove or garter to the tipper.

Twisted Orchid. Normally has good traffic numbers. It has been a long time I've been there, though.

*waves 300L, then giggles and meows*

Wow .. OP makes their first post ... and this is it?

Having run a strip club for over a year, here's how we handled things:

First, please correct yourself ... not all dancers / strippers are escorts. There's a big difference. I loved getting on stage in front of a crowd and having some fun with the other girls sharing the stage with me, but I was not an escort. You didn't even get me into the BJ chamber.

Having said that, our dancers followed their own standards for when to strip, how much to remove, etc ... however, we had our recommended guidelines, based on the amount in the tip jar. Notice I said "tip jar" ... not per patron, but all tips combined.

By the time the tip jar reaches $250 - topless
By the time it reaches $500 - down to your panties
By the time it reaches $800 - topless / bottomless (stockings / hose at your discretion)

As a dancer, I ensured that my stage outfits were scanty, yet had a lot of things to remove. So when that first $50 tip came in, I might untie and / or remove my jacket layer, still leaving me a shirt and undershirt layer before being topless at the $250 mark. There were also gloves, and prim attachments such as belts, bows, garters, etc ... pretty much every tip would get some article of clothing removed.

Before the $500 mark, I'd be removing garters, skirt, pants layers, etc ... and at $500 I'd be down to a thong.

That last $300 push was relying heavily on emoting and push the patron to really want to see what was under that thong. At $800 in the jar, the last tipper got the thong draped across their head and a little naked butt wiggle in their face.

Of course, these numbers were not set in stone. If the club was slow, and there's only one tipper .... I might be naked by $500. If the club was packed and we had a high-roller throwing out tips $500 at at time ... we might not be naked until $3000 in the tip jar.

Remember this .. it's *all* about the emoting. I still visit clubs from time to time, and I still have a pet peeve that I hate seeing empty tip jars. But, when I throw $50 into a jar and get a canned "thanks Hun" or nothing at all ... you can rest assured that you will get no more tips from me.

But, if you emote well, and genuinely show appreciation for the $50 tip .... it goes a long way.


Now, your question leads to another question though ... at what point does the stripper get dressed and start over?

For me, when the people who have been tipping me decide to leave, or after I've been naked for 30 minutes or so if they are still there, I would take a break from the stage, empty my tip jar, and go to the dressing room. I would change outfits, go mingle on the dance floor and dance with my big tippers. Then I would return to the stage for another set, with my tip jar starting at zero. But, I might be a little more lax the 2nd time around ... IE, it may not take as much to get me nekkies.

first, maybe I read it wrong.. But not all dancers are escorts...

and..

250 topless and 500 fully nude seems to be the norm.... 50L huh? strip? No...

A majority of these girls and guys or guys pretending to be girls and so on, work really hard for those tips...

I know my mental mind could not function as fast as some of those girl thats for sure...

That's not really practical, or all that possible considering the limited number of layers and attachments.. Especially in a busy club where numerous lower amount tips can fly in as fast as you can respond. That's exactly WHY tip jar amounts for levels of nudity was created in the first place. It gives the dancer TIME to use their skills to thank/excite the crowd/tippers. Otherwise it'd be a really fast show, impersonal and boring (except for the visuals, of course, but it's much more than that alone if it's worthy).

At least, last I knew I was not a bot.

Well, that's probably why I would ddirect my tips to a dancer at a less bus end of the club or less busy club

it wasn't created for the dancer but for the customer to have an idea of what amount would cause what..with so many dancers using silks back then and other prim clothes there were plenty of slots and layers..it basically stopped all the guessing..

it more or less gave a menu to the customer and was meant to increase tipping..if it was for the dancers it wouldn't have been posted to the customers..just as the limit on the jars to get dressed is not posted to the customers..
the only thing this really did for the dancers was help the new girls starting at a new club with guessing when they had to take something off..
at the time when it was made the avg was around 400 even in the bigger clubs...

the thing i hated about that rule was all the crappy emotes that spawned from it..
oh my only 100 more and my top comes off whats what am i gonna do ..i will be all naky and nowhere to run lol..


the reason the limit was set to get dressed was because so many dancers once they had gotten nude ran out of a reason to get tipped..
because of the lack of ability to keep interest after they were nude..

rules like these really hurt dancers that could really have fun with the customers..
but you had to have something for all the female wanna be's that saw being a female dancer was good money..

C. The dancer should make the most beautiful, tasteful, and realistic avatar she can within her budget and wait for the guys to lavish poetry and gifts upon her just to be in her presence.

After you take off all of your clothes you should dance for a while and then go over to the big glass shower stall on the other side of the stage and give them a shower show...

My first job in SL was as a dancer/stripper and I made a helluva lot of money and had great fun in the process. Eventually the fun wore off and I started building. I wish I was making as much in the store as I was when I was dancing.

And yes, not all dancers are escorts. I never escorted and usually brought in more than those that did.

BTW, we did have price levels based on how much to take off. The employees knew it but we did not post it for the clientelle.

Way back when I danced I knew nothing of "rules" or levels reached for any item of clothing to be removed. Actually, the "club" I danced at was really just a camping place with stages and poles.......we recieved $L3 each 10 minutes. I thought that was the norm........our "minimum wage" and if we wanted more it was up to us to earn it in tips. Yeah, it was a pretty sleazy place. I learned over time that I could earn a decent amount of $L just by being there and not just parked on the pole and left there getting that measley $L18 per hour (assuming I one did not get logged off). I learned to respond to the tippers which surprised a few of them since most figured I was off to work or in bed sleeping in RL. I never had the "canned" gestures......it was all off the cuff chat depending on how I felt and how the "client" reacted to my sexy (but not slutty) chat. Never did I get involved in IM's with them...........all in open chat. I earned quite a reputation and did quite well in the earnings department. Enough to purchase a substanial number of skins and clothing items without ever touching my stipend. I never escorted either. It was not necessary and by playing that "hard to get" angle I believe it contributed to my popularity at the club.

Then the "rules" came into play. I "applied" to other clubs and gave it a shot.............I wound up quitting soon afterwards. I had to play by the "rules". Remove specific items at specific levels of tips. "Emote" specific emotes according to the tip. Could not disrobe out of sequence. In other words no freedom...........no uniqueness. No individualality. More inline with being a "bot" than actually being at my keyboard. And, I "earned" less.

I don't dance anymore.

To the orginal question. Choice number 3 (or 4, or 5, or 100)...........strip when you feel like it. If it's at the $L5 level and you feel like being naked, do it. If it's at the $L1000 level, then wait till the tips reach that point. Someone not talking? Engage that person in open chat........get him/her talking. If they have no money and you feel like giving him a show...........do it. If others are "freelioading" on someone elses tips........what difference does it make? The whole idea of dancing (stripping) is to have fun.........my fun AND anyone who came to visit the club. It's attitude.....and a good stripper will always create a good attitude. And earn accordingly.

That's why at the club at which I co-own, there are two sets of rules.

One set is the official rules that the public sees.

Then there is the un-official set of rules given to the dancers, telling them which rules actually matter and which rules they should feel free to break at their discretion. Our training materials offer the dancers advice on effectively breaking the rules, including the trick of whispering to the customer: "The rule is ____, but because I like you, this one time I will _____. Just don't tell my boss or I'll get into trouble!"

lol OMG!!! i remember coming into our club and a few of our newer dancers that had not met me Iming me with a line something like that hahahahaah

i didn't have the heart to tell them at the time..so i would tell one of the dancers to remind them we don't IM customers coming into the club..
Mainly because chances are they are already in IM's and we don't want them turning around aggravated as soon as they walk in the door lol
let them settle in..most of the time they would IM the dancers shortly after they settled in anyways..

i used to giggle more than anything when someone would get caught breaking one of the littler rules..you would think the way some of them acted they were going to the firing squad..

once they seen it wasn't that bad of a thing and this is really about fun.they started to enjoy more..

WTF is that nonsense? Yeah ... that's what I want, a scripted show. If I wanted to show a scripted, always the same sequence, I'd just throw a porno on the big screen.

The whole point of having girls on stage is their individual talents and skills. The real magic happens when you get a couple of girls on stage that really interact well and put on a hell of a show. When I was on stage, there were a couple of girls that you would swear we shared the same brain. We knew what the other was thinking and we really played well together. You get the two of us up there, and we would drive 'em wild ... and the tips would start rolling in.

I would *NEVER* tell my girls that you have to do this and this and this, and do these specific emotes. Hell, I'd rather have bots.

I pay them to put their clothing back on

Great. I'll just run the script in reverse and get paid in both directions.

Silly rule... guessing is a lot of the fun! Just like in RL, untalented dancers should find other occupations.

Have those clubs tried emoting lessons?

I don't think good emoting can be taught. Or maybe I just can't teach it. It's possible to give advice to a dancer as to how to do it. But if someone doesn't have the basic skills already, I'm not going to be able to help.

Part of good emoting is just knowing how to interact with people. That's something I can't teach. And part if it is good writing. If someone hasn't learned how to write after getting out of high school (and college), then there isn't much I can do in an hour or two in Second Life.

Besides, I want my dancers to have personalities. If they are all emoting according to Amity's One True Way of emoting, then they aren't having individual personalities.

It is fun to talk to dancer applicants who have been turned down to dance at other clubs. It seems a lot of clubs only want to see them naked in their skins and shapes to make the decision. I spend 15-30 minutes talking to applicants to see what their personalities are, which many who have applied elsewhere aren't used to. They get even more shocked when I say, "Okay, you're hired," and I haven't asked to see them naked yet.

The way I look at it, getting a skin is just a matter of buying one, or getting a good free one. Personalities can't be bought. And I don't think our customers come to see cartoon nudity anyway- I think they come to connect with someone.

oh i agree they both were silly rules an they cramped a lot of dancers styles as well..
i didn't pay too much attention to them when i was dancing..if you were earning well they really didn't push them on you..but if i was mentoring it was more that once you found your nitch go with it ..nobody is gonna get fired over taking something off too fast or too slow..