Give Him a Baby!!

You forgot me already!!

Can't he just Reset to Region Default?

There is a difference between starting threads in RA advertising your wares/land/services, and merely having a signature. Substantive posts belong here. Thinly veiled advertising isn't appreciated. That is what the classifieds are for.

But if she sends him the baby, doesn't she owe him the child support?

Maybe send him the baby and some prim breasts to feed it with.

hahaha what tangled web we weave..when we practice to de......CYBER LOL

~Lana Tomba

Agreed. This is one of those things that's right on the line between being a cute prank and being evidence of a bitter and angry personality. Could go either way, depending on who sends it.

Scripting it to take money is unnecessary and potentially dangerous-- if the receiver was an inexperienced resident or otherwise didn't understand what he was agreeing to in allowing debit permissions, this could be seen as a griefer item. There are already too many cases of people rezzing an unknown object, agreeing to allow debit permission because they don't understand fully what that means, and having all their money taken... why add one more?

If the idea is just to get back at someone after a failed relationship, there are safer ways to do it... add other prim objects or notecard "legal paperwork" to the package with the baby.

I understand that. I do not believe my post was "thinly veiled advertising". I have a serious question that is posed here. "When is it allright to ask for debit permissions and take someones Lindens if they approve it"?

IF you clearly ask for the permission, and they say OK. Then it is OK to take the money, RIGHT? If not, why not, and when is it OK to take what they approved?

Not necessarily... see my post above. Some residents aren't experienced enough with this sort of script to understand what 'allow debit permissions' really means. And some people do just click 'ok' out of habit, without thinking or reading the popup. If the popup message was to ask, 'This item wants to take your money, is that okay?' it'd be harder for these misunderstandings to happen.

There are already other items out there being circulated in sandboxes, given randomly to unsuspecting people, etc. that have scripts added to allow debit permissions... these things are intended to steal money from inexperienced people who don't know better. Such things are generally considered to be griefer objects. I don't think I'd want to make a legitimate product seem so much like one.

and this is how you should have worded the question to begin with
it doesn't matter for what purpose you want to make the script (be it for "stealing" someone's lindens or for baby support)

the bottom line is... legally (I guess as far as what is legal in SL) yes it is perfectly legal to make a script that will put the popup asking for debit permissions (otherwise we would not have all these vendors and such that ask for debit permissions)

THAT is what you wanted to know right?

As far as all the talk about newbs and not knowing what they are saying yes to, IT IS VERY CLEAR when that big YELLOW pop up box comes up asking for debit permissions....

They say yes to it, there is no way that it is stealing their money if they say yes...

There is no grey area.... THEY SAY YES!!

anywho back to your question....
When is it allright to ask for debit permissions and take someones Lindens if they approve it"?
anytime they say yes, it is alright, as they say yes.
"IF you clearly ask for the permission, and they say OK. Then it is OK to take the money, RIGHT? If not, why not, and when is it OK to take what they approved?"
if they say yes, then yes it is ok. how can it not be ok if they say yes to that big yellow pop up box that clearly explains what they are saying yes to...

you nor anyone else who make debit scripts are responsible for another person's stupidity. (and yes I say stupidity, not ignorance, for they KNOW, when they say yes, that it will take their lindens, can not get any more plainer than that)

well those residents who are not experienced enough to read a huge yellow pop up saying it is gonna take money from them, should not be clicking yes to it

as for clicking ok out of habit, I do not know of anyone who clicks ok out of habit on a big yellow pop up that is asking to allow someone to take their money

anyone who is intelligent enough to create an account in SL, is intelligent enough to understand what that big yellow pop up is asking...

Of course you shouldn't click 'yes' if you don't understand what you're agreeing to, but we do still see occasional posts from newer residents saying, 'I clicked yes, I thought it was harmless-- or whatever-- and this thing took my money, what do I do?' I'm not saying it'd be the seller's fault when people don't read clearly, I'm saying that things like that do happen, and it isn't necessarily a great idea to script yet another item to do it as a joke.


It's been known to happen. You're busy with something else, you see a popup message, you click 'okay' to get rid of it without paying attention. I'm not saying it's common, or smart, just that it happens.

The poster asked for opinions, and I gave mine... I'm just trying to bring up potential problems that might happen with something like this. If you think it's a funny idea, go ahead and do it.

This is exactly why I stopped posting in the forums before... I'm tired of posting an opinion or a legitimate attempt at answering a question and being told I'm full of sh*t. If you disagreed with my opinion, you could just say so; the condescension wasn't needed, thanks.

apparently you put a tone that was not there
not much I can do about that.

I stated my views on your comments, nothing more

again as for clicking ok out of habit, it is hard to just click ok on the big yellow pop up
(sure this used to happen when it was the same blue popup as the other ones)

read my posts with an open mind, and without putting any emotion into the words, think Spock and that might help them not come across as though I am being condescending to you as I was not.

oh and the only time you will get that popup is when you rez the item with the script or reset the script, so if you are busy with something else, you should not be getting those pop ups...

just a thought

I think everyone is missing the point somewhat, this thread has already been won.

Ron, If the product fools or tricks the "Daddy" out of money all his money in his account without his consent your customers and you may actually get into some major trouble for using it.
There has been rash of devices that empty SL accounts that has been discussed in forum and LL does enforce this sort of thing if people are creating scripts to fool others out of money regardless if they dumped their sl girlfriend's with a baby and expenses or not.
Just kind word of warning

but doesn't clicking yes imply that they are giving consent?

There is no way to fool or trick someone out of money.... they have to click yes to a box that explicitly says that they will or could have money taken from them.

(unless someone says that it will not take money, but it ends up taking money.)
even then it is up to the person who clicks yes, if they trust the source or not.

that is like saying give me your wallet I will not take your money.
do you trust the person to take your wallet or not?

Sometimes with lag or other issues its easy not to see the pop or even get what it is before its too late.
And he didn't say whether or not the person "Daddy" had choice in matter of paying or not.
There has been tons of people whose bank accounts were emptied out and did not get or see pop ups.

not sure how that would happen FD, you HAVE to click yes on said popup

never heard of anyone having their money removed without clicking on that popup, and if it is not there, it can not be clicked

(and yeah I understand lag and all that, but you HAVE to click that popup)

dad would have to click the popup for it to take his money, so therefor he has a choice


(I dunno why ppl have such a hard time grasping that there is no way to have someone take money from your account, unless you click allow on that debit popup)

*shrug*

anywho I am gonna drop it at this point, as I had my comments, said my piece, and do not have anything further to add, I would just be repeating myself from this point on

I asked Strife to lock the wrong thread.

Looks around, runs to put condoms on all my poseballs!

OMG, you (the OP) are sick.

Look, I know you mean this as an amusing joke. But think for a minute about what you're doing here.

You're wanting to RP a tragedy that happens all too often. Thoughtless sex with no protection has consequences. Who was thoughtless? The guy? Probably. You? yes, certainly. Or maybe it was deliberate..."If I have his baby, he'll have to marry me". One of the worst foundations possible on which to try and build a marriage.

So, fine. Let's bring this RL tragedy into Second Life...where it's normally impossible, unless we make it happen. Now we're not being thoughtless. With complete knowledge and foresight, we're being deliberately cruel. Criminally cruel, if you deliver a scripted object that will take L$ out of your victim's account.

Go ahead, though. Make your damn Baby Bomb. But I'll never buy one, never harass a guy with it, no matter how big a jerk I think he is, or was. Because I know that it takes two to tango, CTRL+Q is always there, and I am responsible for what I do.

[EDIT: I feel sort of the same way about Jezabella's VD Test Results delivered by singing telegram, but I have to admit, it's more amusing. Still a RL tragedy, but at least it's presented in a way that allows both the sender and receiver to smile about it.]

Lol Ron! Cute product, it expresses resentment, anger, etc. very well, and let's face it, a lot of folks in SL feel that when their relationships crash.

However, since this would generally be given to someone who is disliked by the sender, it is unlikely that the recipient would ever actually WANT to give money to the sender. Thus, if you add debit permission to this little spite bomb, you will have created a tool for griefing people's exes. So no, I wouldn't do it if I were you.

And Rha, I totally understand what you're saying, but inattentive people are everywhere, and mistakes happen all the time, and yes some people are just plain stupid. I see no reason to, for the sake of a bitter joke, expose one of these folks to losing their Linden balance.

And yeah, I love Jezabella's idea!
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QFT. The post on things to have the baby say, like, "Why don't you love Mommy", or "I hate you, Daddy" actually made me cringe and hurt a little inside. Maybe it hits a little close to home for me. I've got a pretty thick skin, but if it actually made me feel bad (even when it clearly wasn't directed at me), imagine how hurtful it could be to someone who is either a child of divorce where the parents used the kid against each other, or who is a divorced father with a nutty ex-wife. This is bad policy. Including a child support script is also a terrible idea. There's just nothing about this that I like. It's not funny, it perpetuates anger and resentment and pain, and it doesn't serve any positive function. If you have the skill to put something like this together, why don't you use those skills to do something really positive?

I got the quads last night..sent them to the friend and he got the biggest laugh out of it..GREAT product!!!

~Lana Tomba

Most of the people I date don't have a single linden so I'm still screwed

Erin

If I was you, i would not advertise "bringing horses to live " for the time being. Wait untill people forgot about Mari's neighbours.

Maggie

P.S.: Can you do something about octopuses?