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Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 18:48
From: Milla Janick
Yes. "IMO" = In my opinion.


OK, so, in your "opinion", his intentions are "perfectly clear", as a speculation?

Just trying to sort out what you mean, since people usually say "It's all a matter of speculation" to indicate that the only thing anyone is going on is "guesswork", which is generally the opposite of something being "perfectly clear".
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01-19-2010 18:50
From: Mickey Vandeverre
If the shoe fits.....

And so? Is it ethical to pick and choose when you apply your ethical standards?


Only if you've been elected to office.
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01-19-2010 18:53
From: Talarus Luan
OK, so, in your "opinion", his intentions are "perfectly clear", as a speculation?

Just trying to sort out what you mean, since people usually say "It's all a matter of speculation" to indicate that the only thing anyone is going on is "guesswork", which is generally the opposite of something being "perfectly clear".

The only one who knows for sure is Floyd. Anything else is speculation given the available evidence.

I've drawn one conclusion based on the evidence, you've drawn another.
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Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 18:53
From: Mickey Vandeverre
If the shoe fits.....

And so? Is it ethical to pick and choose when you apply your ethical standards? By your definition, of course. Wouldn't have it any other way.


I'm not picking and choosing when to apply my "ethical standards". I'm applying them liberally to all.

Let's see.. people defend Phil's traffic gaming, copyright infringement, search gaming, yet attack Floyd's business ethics.

I don't think I am the one with the "conditional application of ethical standards" problem. <.<
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01-19-2010 18:59
From: Talarus Luan
I'm not picking and choosing when to apply my "ethical standards". I'm applying them liberally to all.

Let's see.. people defend Phil's traffic gaming, copyright infringement, search gaming, yet attack Floyd's business ethics.

I don't think I am the one with the "conditional application of ethical standards" problem. <.<


Sounds like the shoe fits.
Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 19:00
From: Mickey Vandeverre
Sounds like the shoe fits.


Then go ahead and wear it. :)
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01-19-2010 19:11
From: Mickey Vandeverre
If the shoe fits.....

And so? Is it ethical to pick and choose when you apply your ethical standards? By your definition, of course. Wouldn't have it any other way.



Talarus definition on ethics/ morals allows for child avatars in SL to engage in sex-play....that's from the horse's mouth from another thread. With that in mind, i'd take anything he says with a pinch of salt!


From: Talarus Luan

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Sex age play with child avatars is not sex age play with *children*. I don't subscribe to the notion that it is wrong or immoral than any other kind of sex play between consenting adults.
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01-19-2010 19:14
From: Talarus Luan
Then go ahead and wear it. :)


Shoe won't fit. I don't scream ethics. Have learned to leave it alone. Not my call.

I scream Karma, baby.
Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 19:15
From: Rene Erlanger
Talarus definition on ethics/ morals allows for child avatars in SL to engage in sex-play....that's from the horse's mouth from another thread. With that in mind, i'd take anything he says with a pinch of salt!


Yup, and if I say that people RPing murdering each other or raping one another is no less reprehensible, what does that tell you?

But you go right ahead and justify murder and rape RP all you want, k? I am sure it will be amusing.
Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 19:18
From: Mickey Vandeverre
Shoe won't fit. I don't scream ethics. Have learned to leave it alone. Not my call.


Doesn't stop you from being judgmental, though, does it?

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I scream Karma, baby.


That's funny, I did too.

Oh, btw, the "shoe" doesn't fit me, either. :)
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01-19-2010 19:23
From: Talarus Luan
Yup, and if I say that people RPing murdering each other or raping one another is no less reprehensible, what does that tell you?

But you go right ahead and justify murder and rape RP all you want, k? I am sure it will be amusing.



Apart from moral issues....as far as I'm aware "RPing murdering each other or raping one another" are not against LL's TOS providing it takes place on an adult rated sim (i.e where you have to provide age verification), whereas child sex is is explicitly forbidden in SL in any shape or form....and could potentially land you a RL visit from your local police force.
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Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 19:25
From: Rene Erlanger
Apart from moral issues....as far as I'm aware "RPing murdering each other or raping one another" are not against LL's TOS providing it takes on an adult rated sim (i.e where you have to provide age verification), whereas child sex is is explicitly forbidden in SL in any shame or form....and could potentially land you a RL visit from your local police force.


Oh, OK, so LL's ToS decides what is "moral" or "ethical" now? :rolleyes:
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01-19-2010 19:30
From: Talarus Luan
Oh, OK, so LL's ToS decides what is "moral" or "ethical" now? :rolleyes:


Well you proven that with your approval of child sex play within SL....your morals & ethics are all over the place anyhow.

- Stuffing land description with repetitive keywords is unethical, cheating & gaming

- Sex between a child avatar and an adult avatar is ok in your books, because its between 2 consenting adults behind the keyboards


....that's the long and short of it!
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01-19-2010 19:32
From: Talarus Luan
Doesn't stop you from being judgmental, though, does it?



That's funny, I did too.


I screamed it before you - post #17 - even jabbed Phil with it. Subtly.

I've tried to keep my judgments in this thread directed toward stupid business moves and blatant underhandedness. Might have slipped up a few times - I'm not perfect like you.....but I'm not continually screaming my ethics or the highway....or my ethics or you deserve to get screwed. And before you twist my words....blatant underhandedness and stupid business moves are different than your absolute ethics.

I don't care for the message you are sending..... Talarus' way...or you deserve what you get, and you are fair game for anything. Nope.
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01-19-2010 19:33
From: Rene Erlanger
Well you proven that with your approval of child sex play within SL....your morals & ethics are all over the place anyhow.

- Stuffing land description with repetitive keywords is unethical, cheating & gaming

- Sex between a child avatar and an adult avatar is ok in your books, because its between 2 consenting adults behind the keyboards


....that's the long and short of it!


Yeah, I tend to focus on things that, you know, HURT other people, rather than just judge things that make me feel good, unlike some people here. <.<
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01-19-2010 19:38
From: Talarus Luan
Yeah, I tend to focus on things that, you know, HURT other people, rather than just judge things that make me feel good, unlike some people here. <.<


i think anyone that engages in child sex play in SL are disturbed and probably hurting themselves even more. Moving up a few places in a Search engine would be inconsequential by comparison. Your standard of ethics & morals are very disturbing!
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Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 19:48
From: Mickey Vandeverre
I screamed it before you - post #17 - even jabbed Phil with it. Subtly.


So you did. :)

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I've tried to keep my judgments in this thread directed toward stupid business moves and blatant underhandedness.


Yet you're judging me here. Is what I am doing a "stupid business move" or "blatant underhandedness"?

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Might have slipped up a few times - I'm not perfect like you.....


Never claimed to be; nice try, though. :)

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but I'm not continually screaming my ethics or the highway....or my ethics or you deserve to get screwed.


I'm not doing any such thing. I am saying HAVE ethics or you can't complain about other people NOT having them. I am saying you can't selectively choose to ignore one person's ethical failures and then go after someone else's. That's the ethical "double standard" you're pointing to with respect to me, but it isn't here.

From: someone
And before you twist my words....blatant underhandedness and stupid business moves are different than your absolute ethics.


Not always, and not in the situations being described or have been discussed so far.

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I don't care for the message you are sending..... Talarus' way...or you deserve what you get, and you are fair game for anything. Nope.


That's because I am not sending that message, your jaded misinterpretation notwithstanding.

That said, that's the whole point of "karma", with which you apparently agree. <.<
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01-19-2010 19:57
From: Rene Erlanger
i think anyone that engages in child sex play in SL are disturbed and probably hurting themselves even more.


Well, that's your prejudice; it likely isn't remotely reflective of reality.

Besides, you can say the EXACT SAME THING about "rape" and "murder" RP.

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Moving up a few places in a Search engine would be inconsequential by comparison.


That's probably because your moral relativism can't distinguish the difference between degree and domain.

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Your standard of ethics & morals are very disturbing!


Considering the source, I will take that as a compliment. :)
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01-19-2010 20:01
IMO, someone with your upside down moral & ethics shouldn't really be judging anybody!
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Talarus Luan
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01-19-2010 20:03
From: Rene Erlanger
IMO, someone with your upside down moral & ethics shouldn't really be judging anybody!


Probably a better judge of character than you'll ever hope to be. :)
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01-19-2010 20:03
I nominate this thread for the thread that should never die once the other thread that should never die dies.
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01-19-2010 20:04
From: Talarus Luan
Probably a better judge of character than you'll ever hope to be. :)


You win a Blue Peter Badge!......now run along!
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01-19-2010 20:09
From: Rene Erlanger
You win a Blue Peter Badge!......now run along!


No thanks, you can keep it. I wouldn't want to take it second-hand from someone who actually earned it. :)
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01-19-2010 20:12
From: Talarus Luan
No thanks, you can keep it. I wouldn't want to take it second-hand from someone that actually earned it. :)


As per usual.....you suffer from "last word" syndrome!

Go on.....you know you want to! Give us your predictable annoying final passing shot! Go on.....you know you can't resist those extra sound bites!


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01-19-2010 20:14
Oh Geez...Here we go.... The Talarus Dissection......

From: Talarus Luan




Yet you're judging me here. Is what I am doing a "stupid business move" or "blatant underhandedness"?




You piped up on my comment about whether it was ethical to pick and choose. Guilty Conscience? I did not direct it toward you. I am simply responding to your comments directed toward me. I think it is very clear who I am challenging on stupid business moves and blatant underhandedness. Not directed toward you.

From: Talarus Luan




I'm not doing any such thing. I am saying HAVE ethics or you can't complain about other people NOT having them. I am saying you can't selectively choose to ignore one person's ethical failures and then go after someone else's. That's the ethical "double standard" you're pointing to with respect to me, but it isn't here.





My impression from your posts, is that you are saying "have MY ethics...." (as in YOUR ethics) You have applied YOUR ethics to someone, in your call. I would assume that if I spelled out every step I take in conducting business day to day....that you would have an ethical problem with mine, as well as 100% of the other business owners. Based on some of your evaluations. I would find it hard to believe that someone could escape your absolute definitions. I doubt that you would escape your own....but you will never know, unless you actually go into business, here.

From: Talarus Luan



That's because I am not sending that message, your jaded misinterpretation notwithstanding.



I've read that message from you, over and over again. If I'm jaded....it's because you are obnoxiously repetitive with it.

From: Talarus Luan



Not always, and not in the situations being described or have been discussed so far.





You will debate this until you are blue in the face. I already knew that. I disagree - no debate necessary.

From: Talarus Luan


That said, that's the whole point of "karma", with which you apparently agree. <.<


I guarantee you that you and I think entirely differently on the Karma thing. No debate necessary.
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