"realism, not privacy".
OK...but what about privacy, not realism? Maybe a security system tied to the door script? When the door is locked by the owner, the system ejects anyone within 96m?
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Lindal Kidd
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09-22-2008 07:07
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 08:59
Inasmuch as it's all about realism, not privacy... I can kind of see the appeal of a "key" although I'm not sure exactly how one would want it to apply. One option would be to wear it (could attach to a HUD location--or even be something worn on the right hand, with an animation and a hugger-like tendency to pull the avatar sideways toward the nearest scripted door), or it could be a copy-perm thing that one has to drag to the door (and the door could--with permission--do the hokey animation and physics things, too). What makes this extra realistic, though, is the extreme inconvenience of it all, just like RL keys. One fumbles through Inventory, just like hunting through the keys on a keyring. Oh, and to make it extra realistic, be sure it's a model that requires you to hire the scripter as a virtual locksmith again, installing a new lock each time there's a change of access list. Come to think of it: I sell a few fireplaces, but it never occurred to me to make them periodically quit working until the customer calls me in as a chimney sweep. I already have a top hat in Inventory. probably some kind of thing you wear as an attachment (key) that the door must detect in order to open is one way. That way you can have 3 levels - Locked - Authorized Only and open Access. And YES .. I am generally against security systems on Mainland, but if you can tie the door to a local Area Denial Device.. that would make complete sense. and as far as chimney sweeping.. not a bad idea..but.. I would need to see your Union Card first! I still think AV's should be required to eat and drink or starve to death and die.. People should have to buy food and water.. kinda like Roller Coaster Tycoon.. if ya don't hire a Janitor to clean up the puke.. the park Dies... this would open a whole lot of new industries such as restaurants and food service.. How's about them Apples? _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 09:07
"Locked" doors are rather useless, anyway. Anyone can cam in past them, see everything, and there are many ways to walk right through the wall. If you want some measure of privacy, you need a security system that will eject anyone who gets too close. If you want REAL provacy, you need to own your own private island sim, and make it accessible only to invited guests and yourself. If I get ejected by a machine and TP'd, I consider that a declaration of all out WAR.. surely there must be a less brutal way do deal with this.. like pushing to just outside the designated perimeter.. as to Islands.. people that come on here just to hide away .. have issues that this place cannot fix for them.. besides you could just turn off access to your parcel temporarily blocking all entry _____________________
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Ann Launay
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09-22-2008 09:15
I still think AV's should be required to eat and drink or starve to death and die.. People should have to buy food and water.. kinda like Roller Coaster Tycoon.. Kinda like the Sims? The online version of which semi-recently crashed and burned? this would open a whole lot of new industries such as restaurants and food service.. Or drive a whole hell of a lot of people out of SL... besides you could just turn off access to your parcel temporarily blocking all entry That only works up to 50m, so if you live off the ground and want at least the semblance of privacy, you need a security system. _____________________
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09-22-2008 09:15
If I get ejected by a machine and TP'd, I consider that a declaration of all out WAR.. surely there must be a less brutal way do deal with this.. like pushing to just outside the designated perimeter.. as to Islands.. people that come on here just to hide away .. have issues that this place cannot fix for them.. besides you could just turn off access to your parcel temporarily blocking all entry People who feel that they have a right to intrude where they are not wanted have issues that this place cannot fix for them.. _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 09:22
Or drive a whole hell of a lot of people out of SL... so what.. for every person that couldn't handle it there would be 10 new ones that could.. it would weed out the lazy, and freeloaders .. evolution at its best... _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 09:32
People who feel that they have a right to intrude where they are not wanted have issues that this place cannot fix for them.. Now we just went full circle back to doors.. and locks! Most people will go away when they find a locked door. They don't go psycho and try to find a loophole in the Komputorrr code to invade someone's space. and .. curious What do I have to do in order to be able to put the heading " Builder" under my name? I make a lot of Boxes and rectangles with pretty pictures on it.. does that make me a builder too? _____________________
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Yumi Murakami
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09-22-2008 09:39
it would weed out the lazy, and freeloaders .. evolution at its best... Don't forget that the "lazy" - the people who buy L$ rather than working for them - are crucial to SL. Without them there is no US$ coming in and nobody can cash out. That said, there would be some benefit to having avatars eat and drink - namely, that events, clubs, and social builds (etc.) could recoup their money by selling food and drink on the premises, in the same way that those facilities do in real life. (That's the real-life analogue of "dwell", the old artificial reward system.) |
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Ruthven Willenov
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09-22-2008 09:40
Kinda like the Sims? The online version of which semi-recently crashed and burned? actually, someone is working on a sims themed sim called reztown. it uses huds and such to keep track of health, and all that. there's furniture, food, etc. that are scripted to interact with the huds. they're working on scripts people can buy to create products to use there as well. _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 09:45
Don't forget that the "lazy" - the people who buy L$ rather than working for them - are crucial to SL. Without them there is no US$ coming in and nobody can cash out. That said, there would be some benefit to having avatars eat and drink - namely, that events, clubs, and social builds (etc.) could recoup their money by selling food and drink on the premises, in the same way that those facilities do in real life. (That's the real-life analogue of "dwell", the old artificial reward system.) I really think that would be an awesome enhancement to this place... when I am talking about lazy .. I wasn't trying to insult the Poseball hoppers... they afterall do a lot by running around and buying things.. so therefore they are far from lazy.. I am talking about the lazy who sit around and say that everything is a bad idea and that you can't do this and that.. because of this and that instead of trying it.. cause you never know... _____________________
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Yumi Murakami
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09-22-2008 09:51
I am talking about the lazy who sit around and say that everything is a bad idea and that you can't do this and that.. because of this and that instead of trying it.. cause you never know... Sometimes they are right, but you do have a point. SL would be improved with more Sam-I-Ams and Tyler Durdens  |
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Ann Launay
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09-22-2008 09:59
I wouldn't play if I had to keep Ann from peeing her pants or crying with hunger...SL is a fantasy realm, and I'd really rather do without those sorts of RL annoyances.
Besides, the platform was purposely developed NOT to have any typical game-type requirements. Now, if part of the population likes the idea of Reztown and wants to play, more power to them, but forcing others to so defeats the whole purpose of SL, IMO. _____________________
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 10:09
SL is a fantasy realm, and I'd really rather do without those sorts of RL annoyances. Define the function of talking fetuses and wombs that fart periodically next door ... ohh there is that Door word again.. hows about them doors? ey? _____________________
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Solomon Devoix
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09-22-2008 11:10
Define the function of talking fetuses and wombs that fart periodically next door ... I'd like to make unborn babies that talk in public chat about what the mother is "feeling" a hangin' offense. I find those INCREDIBLY annoying. _____________________
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Ann Launay
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09-22-2008 11:25
Define the function of talking fetuses and wombs that fart periodically next door ... Faux-pregnancy is a fantasy for some, especially for those who can't experience the real thing for whatever reason. In any case, those talking fetuses are not an integral part of the platform - females avs aren't forced to become pregnant if they forget the virtual birth control - so it's really not the same thing as what you're talking about. _____________________
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Nichole Vanbeeck
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09-22-2008 11:30
LOL im sorry but I have to say this. What is the point of locking any doors in sl when all you have to do is cam inside and sit on something. Boom.... your in whether the door is locked or not. The only why to keep someone out is by using a security orb.
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Cristalle Karami
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09-22-2008 12:11
What is the point of an access list if you want to keep your friends out?
It sounds like you want 3 levels of access (owner, enforcer who can lock/unlock the door, and basic access) and two kinds of locks - a normal lock and a "super lock" for the owner. I just don't see much purpose for a super-lock. If friends come by when unwanted, they will probably do whatever it takes to get in anyway, if they can't figure out that the door is locked for a reason. _____________________
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Annabelle Babii
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09-22-2008 12:20
Just fill your house with invisible phantom prims that turn non-phantom when you're not in the room. Anyone who cam-sits in gets flung away as soon as they stand.
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Kyllie Wylie
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09-22-2008 12:43
I wouldn't play if I had to keep Ann from peeing her pants or crying with hunger...SL is a fantasy realm, and I'd really rather do without those sorts of RL annoyances. Besides, the platform was purposely developed NOT to have any typical game-type requirements. Now, if part of the population likes the idea of Reztown and wants to play, more power to them, but forcing others to so defeats the whole purpose of SL, IMO. I take it Ann hasnt been the Golden Shower Tower Sim.... and if SL was not "purposely developed" as a game, why is there a health meter built into the native client? Why can you do damage to other Avatars at all? You can "die" in this game, though like most on line games you just get sent back to your home point. Obviously though the "game" part was not developed and was pretty well abandoned by LL, though it still is supported in their clients. |
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Kyllie Wylie
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09-22-2008 12:53
Don't forget that the "lazy" - the people who buy L$ rather than working for them - are crucial to SL. Without them there is no US$ coming in and nobody can cash out. eh? I'm lazy because I dont have a job in SL? Sorry but I work full time in the Real World, not spend 12 hours on my laptop ressing plywood cubes or writting scripts so a door can open and close. I have a real job that pay's me real money so I can have fun in SL when I have time to play... sorry for being so "lazy" |
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Qie Niangao
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09-22-2008 13:36
What do I have to do in order to be able to put the heading " Builder" under my name? Then, click that "User CP" button in the upper left of the forums frame, choose Edit Profile, and look for where it says Custom User Title. Instant promotion! You can even be royalty. Speaking of royalty: You know the Queen wears a catheter, right? How else could she stay in full public view for countless hours at diplomatic receptions, etc.? I mention it in this context because, while we're scripting the whole "needing to go" function, we could also script the "catheter cheat" and sell it for some princely sum. I can see this rivaling the whole in-world Weapons market which is--you must admit--at least equally frivolous. Oh, and I'm responsible for some of the talking foetuses, from an earlier, tawdrier career as a scripter-for-hire. I was also stupid: I should have made pregnancy contagious--sorta like Bloodlines--and then charge a small fee of all in chat range to make the damned things STFU. |
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VonGklugelstein Alter
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09-22-2008 18:04
haha I went to see the Kreator of one brand of those annoying things to find out how to mute them because one of my friends and a neighbor had them..
funny thing is the person did not know how to mute their own creation, and just asking the question was enough for a eject and ban haha so yes.. if you can make a device that can mute a specific object reliably.. you can charge for it.. without a Union Card no less.. _____________________
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