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Lindal Kidd

Dances With Noobs

Join date: 26 Jun 2007

Posts: 8,371

05-11-2009 10:53

From: Lear Cale

Fun.

I'm gonna have to figure out what to do with the lindens I'm making.

/me smiles and gives you a sultry look.

I can help you find a good home for the poor little things...

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Lindal Kidd

Raudf Fox

(ra-ow-th)

Join date: 25 Feb 2005

Posts: 5,119

05-11-2009 12:47

Yes.

Yeah, that's my answer and I'm sticking to it. If you want an explanation, well. I love SL and it's fun when I'm in the mood for it. But it's also a self-supporting hobby which is always good. I'm also in here to hone my graphic art skills.... soooooo... Yes.

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Briana Dawson

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Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,855

05-11-2009 12:59

I come to SL for:

---- For Sex [ x ]

---- For Drugs [ x ]

---- For Rock & Roll [ x ]

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Felix Oxide

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Join date: 6 Oct 2006

Posts: 655

05-11-2009 13:10

-- Why do you come to Second Life? --

---- For fun only? [ ]
---- For making money only? [ ]

---- To avoid marketing research for companies and advertisers hoping to make cash by turning the grid into trash [X]

Zim Gunsberg

Just some guy...

Join date: 16 May 2008

Posts: 211

05-11-2009 13:17

From: Dilbert Dilweg

I come Just for the Pie and doing Surveys

^ This. ^

Yet sometimes the LULZ are rather compelling.

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Belinda Millet

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Join date: 6 May 2009

Posts: 71

05-11-2009 13:44

---- For fun only? [X]
---- For making money only [X]

I came here for the fun and am finding i need to also make money to enjoy the fun. I came back to SL to RP again in Gor but found that anything i'd need i'd have to pay for. Some things i've been able to camp for and others i've had to pay for. So i got a job as a dancer after finding a free skin and getting some hair cheap, now i was able to purchase a few things i needed for my RP.

Ian Nider

Seeds

Join date: 20 Mar 2009

Posts: 1,011

05-11-2009 17:36

I came for fun, then started to learn to build, which is awesome fun, later I might try and make money...which might be as well.

If the fun goes though, I'd leave, unless I was a tycoon, which I doubt, but if it was genuine income, I'd stay at it like a job.

Jay Grau

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Join date: 13 Jan 2009

Posts: 3

05-12-2009 01:21

From: Ceera Murakami

-- Why do you come to Second Life? --

---- For fun only? [ ]
---- For making money only? [ ]
---- For other purpose (please specifiy). [ ]

Please only provide one answer by crossing [ x ].

Sorry, impossible to answer with those restrictions. Because I would have to check all three. My interests are not one-dimensional.

Fun? : If I didn't have fun in SL, I wouldn't be here. My first and best reason for coming to SL and staying here is that I have friends here who I can't socialize with anywhere else. If my friends left, so would I.

Making Money? : But if I couldn't earn a profit here with my businesses, I also wouldn't be here. I can't afford to dump $75 USD a month or more into a silly on-line virtual world, no matter how much I enjoy that social time with my friends. The money I earn in SL pays all my SL expenses, and provides my friends and I with a beautiful and fun place in SL to interact.

Other? : You left out having a venue for artistic expresson, learning, creating, and many, many other pursuits. All valid parts of why I am here.

If you think all of life is only about "Having Fun" or "Making Money" and that those two aims are mutually exclusive, I really feel sorry for you. Your future career will therefore be miserable, because you can't get paid for doing something you love to do. So sad.

I love this answer. In fact, SL research itself for me is a fun not for other purposes, at least now. The reason of needing a specific answer is to find out whether SL world is sustainable. If all for fun and Linden Dollar supply figure is always positive, Linden Research Inc will be survivable (unless LL real-world cash inflow has problem). However, if many residents are for money, the SL future will not be decidable. I would not give the in-depth answer here (still in research), but I just compare Second Life world to our earth. What do you think for human if the earth has problem - bang!!!?

Ephraim Kappler

Reprobate

Join date: 9 Jul 2007

Posts: 1,946

05-12-2009 01:45

From: Jay Grau

f all for fun and Linden Dollar supply figure is always positive, Linden Research Inc will be survivable (unless LL real-world cash inflow has problem). However, if many residents are for money, the SL future will not be decidable. I would not give the in-depth answer here (still in research) ...

Jay, I think you might have gotten further by framing your three basic questions in a simple poll and not mentioning research. It's easy for me to be wise after the event but perhaps you didn't notice the forums have this feature?

Posters tend to respond more positively to a poll (especially when pie is on the menu) whereas we are generally quite jaded with the implication that we're lab rats to be pumped for opinions in these quite regular surveys.

As far as I am concerned, the only necessary SL economy involves buying lindens for upload and paying tier on my parcel. Many residents get by without any expense whatsoever. Apparently we are lab rats in an experiment anyway - however resentful we may be about being made to feel even moreso - so I think the contribution of their time and input is just as valid as those who fully engage in SL commerce.

Nuuna Nitely

Registered User

Join date: 9 Dec 2007

Posts: 46

05-12-2009 05:22

---- For fun only? [X]

Clarissa Lowell

Gone. G'bye.

Join date: 10 Apr 2006

Posts: 3,020

05-14-2009 02:32

I don't like polls OR surveys especially. But I am much more likely to answer a poll that has a specific question or issue which makes clear the person is an actual resident and cares about Second Life, as opposed to someone from some matchbook college wandering in here to poke, poke at our ribs.

Put another way, this is marketing research. Which means obfuscation and mendacity! (TM The Glass Menagerie.)

What self respecting 'university' would send its students to an internet forum!?

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Briana Dawson

Attach to Mouth

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 5,855

05-14-2009 02:41

From: Clarissa Lowell

I don't like polls OR surveys especially.

You better answer my Polls!

I'm serious!

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Czari Zenovka

I've Had it With "PC"!

Join date: 3 May 2007

Posts: 3,688

05-14-2009 04:22

I came to SL 2 years ago from IRC on invitation from a SL resident. The main reason was to continue the rp in which I had participated for 12 years in a 3D environment.

Then I met my (now-ex) partner. We had a wonderful time exploring SL for close to two years.

While taking classes I discovered building and decided to open a small shop.

From: Ephraim Kappler

I also plan to run a small business because it makes sense to turn enough lindens to pay tier and upload fees. I'm painfully slow to start because doing it well requires time, patience and responsibilities that are just a little too close to RL for my taste.

I will get there eventually but it will be a big experiment that could easily sour the whole experience for me.

I was enjoying my little business at my speed but reading the "Advice on Sales" thread now seems like a race and I feel like I'm falling behind which is discouraging...and I recently split with my Partner.

I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy SL again now. (Yes I know I sound morose and would appreciate no kicking me while I'm down.)

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Jack42 Meredith

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Join date: 18 Dec 2007

Posts: 418

05-15-2009 11:06

i am currently learning to build and lovin every minute of it....

next i wanna learn to script .

Nic Writer

Registered User

Join date: 25 Mar 2007

Posts: 740

05-15-2009 13:53

From: Czari Zenovka

While taking classes I discovered building and decided to open a small shop.

I was enjoying my little business at my speed but reading the "Advice on Sales" thread now seems like a race and I feel like I'm falling behind which is discouraging...

Czari, I hope I'm not butting in here, but...

I remember when you first posted here in the forums that you had started building and had decided to start an SL business. I've watched you post bits and pieces about it here since. One of the things I've always admired was how you ran your business in a way and on a scale that pleased you. Indirectly, you've been one of the influences that's made me think about selling some of the stuff I've made, though I haven't taken the plunge yet.

Advice worth the paper it's printed on, but I'd encourage you to continue running your business in a way that's fun for you, and not to get caught up in a race mentality if that's not where you want to be. Make the business serve you, not the other way 'round.

(And remember, that's advice from a non-business-owner and probably worth what you've paid for it... Hope things get better for you soon.)

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Lear Cale

wordy bugger

Join date: 22 Aug 2007

Posts: 3,569

05-15-2009 14:42

From: Jack42 Meredith

i am currently learning to build and lovin every minute of it....

next i wanna learn to script .

That'll kill your fun!

Why do you come to Second Life - fun or making money?
Lindal Kidd Dances With Noobs Join date: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 8,371	05-11-2009 10:53 From: Lear Cale Fun. I'm gonna have to figure out what to do with the lindens I'm making. /me smiles and gives you a sultry look. I can help you find a good home for the poor little things... _____________________ It's still My World and My Imagination! So there. Lindal Kidd
Raudf Fox (ra-ow-th) Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 5,119	05-11-2009 12:47 Yes. Yeah, that's my answer and I'm sticking to it. If you want an explanation, well. I love SL and it's fun when I'm in the mood for it. But it's also a self-supporting hobby which is always good. I'm also in here to hone my graphic art skills.... soooooo... Yes. _____________________ DiamonX Studios, the place of the Victorian Times series of gowns and dresses - Located at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Fushida/224/176 Want more attachment points for your avatar's wearing pleasure? Then please vote for https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-1065?
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-11-2009 12:59 I come to SL for: ---- For Sex [ x ] ---- For Drugs [ x ] ---- For Rock & Roll [ x ] _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Felix Oxide Registered User Join date: 6 Oct 2006 Posts: 655	05-11-2009 13:10 -- Why do you come to Second Life? -- ---- For fun only? [ ] ---- For making money only? [ ] ---- To avoid marketing research for companies and advertisers hoping to make cash by turning the grid into trash [X]
Zim Gunsberg Just some guy... Join date: 16 May 2008 Posts: 211	05-11-2009 13:17 From: Dilbert Dilweg I come Just for the Pie and doing Surveys ^ This. ^ Yet sometimes the LULZ are rather compelling. _____________________ My Blog: http://agapestyle.blogspot.com/ My Store: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Cherry%20Park/15/103/23/
Belinda Millet Registered User Join date: 6 May 2009 Posts: 71	05-11-2009 13:44 ---- For fun only? [X] ---- For making money only [X] I came here for the fun and am finding i need to also make money to enjoy the fun. I came back to SL to RP again in Gor but found that anything i'd need i'd have to pay for. Some things i've been able to camp for and others i've had to pay for. So i got a job as a dancer after finding a free skin and getting some hair cheap, now i was able to purchase a few things i needed for my RP.
Ian Nider Seeds Join date: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,011	05-11-2009 17:36 I came for fun, then started to learn to build, which is awesome fun, later I might try and make money...which might be as well. If the fun goes though, I'd leave, unless I was a tycoon, which I doubt, but if it was genuine income, I'd stay at it like a job.
Jay Grau Registered User Join date: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 3	05-12-2009 01:21 From: Ceera Murakami -- Why do you come to Second Life? -- ---- For fun only? [ ] ---- For making money only? [ ] ---- For other purpose (please specifiy). [ ] Please only provide one answer by crossing [ x ]. Sorry, impossible to answer with those restrictions. Because I would have to check all three. My interests are not one-dimensional. Fun? : If I didn't have fun in SL, I wouldn't be here. My first and best reason for coming to SL and staying here is that I have friends here who I can't socialize with anywhere else. If my friends left, so would I. Making Money? : But if I couldn't earn a profit here with my businesses, I also wouldn't be here. I can't afford to dump $75 USD a month or more into a silly on-line virtual world, no matter how much I enjoy that social time with my friends. The money I earn in SL pays all my SL expenses, and provides my friends and I with a beautiful and fun place in SL to interact. Other? : You left out having a venue for artistic expresson, learning, creating, and many, many other pursuits. All valid parts of why I am here. If you think all of life is only about "Having Fun" or "Making Money" and that those two aims are mutually exclusive, I really feel sorry for you. Your future career will therefore be miserable, because you can't get paid for doing something you love to do. So sad. I love this answer. In fact, SL research itself for me is a fun not for other purposes, at least now. The reason of needing a specific answer is to find out whether SL world is sustainable. If all for fun and Linden Dollar supply figure is always positive, Linden Research Inc will be survivable (unless LL real-world cash inflow has problem). However, if many residents are for money, the SL future will not be decidable. I would not give the in-depth answer here (still in research), but I just compare Second Life world to our earth. What do you think for human if the earth has problem - bang!!!?
Ephraim Kappler Reprobate Join date: 9 Jul 2007 Posts: 1,946	05-12-2009 01:45 From: Jay Grau f all for fun and Linden Dollar supply figure is always positive, Linden Research Inc will be survivable (unless LL real-world cash inflow has problem). However, if many residents are for money, the SL future will not be decidable. I would not give the in-depth answer here (still in research) ... Jay, I think you might have gotten further by framing your three basic questions in a simple poll and not mentioning research. It's easy for me to be wise after the event but perhaps you didn't notice the forums have this feature? Posters tend to respond more positively to a poll (especially when pie is on the menu) whereas we are generally quite jaded with the implication that we're lab rats to be pumped for opinions in these quite regular surveys. As far as I am concerned, the only necessary SL economy involves buying lindens for upload and paying tier on my parcel. Many residents get by without any expense whatsoever. Apparently we are lab rats in an experiment anyway - however resentful we may be about being made to feel even moreso - so I think the contribution of their time and input is just as valid as those who fully engage in SL commerce.
Nuuna Nitely Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2007 Posts: 46	05-12-2009 05:22 ---- For fun only? [X]
Clarissa Lowell Gone. G'bye. Join date: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,020	05-14-2009 02:32 I don't like polls OR surveys especially. But I am much more likely to answer a poll that has a specific question or issue which makes clear the person is an actual resident and cares about Second Life, as opposed to someone from some matchbook college wandering in here to poke, poke at our ribs. Put another way, this is marketing research. Which means obfuscation and mendacity! (TM The Glass Menagerie.) What self respecting 'university' would send its students to an internet forum!? _____________________
Briana Dawson Attach to Mouth Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,855	05-14-2009 02:41 From: Clarissa Lowell I don't like polls OR surveys especially. You better answer my Polls! I'm serious! _____________________ WooT ------------------------------ http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/
Czari Zenovka I've Had it With "PC"! Join date: 3 May 2007 Posts: 3,688	05-14-2009 04:22 I came to SL 2 years ago from IRC on invitation from a SL resident. The main reason was to continue the rp in which I had participated for 12 years in a 3D environment. Then I met my (now-ex) partner. We had a wonderful time exploring SL for close to two years. While taking classes I discovered building and decided to open a small shop. From: Ephraim Kappler I also plan to run a small business because it makes sense to turn enough lindens to pay tier and upload fees. I'm painfully slow to start because doing it well requires time, patience and responsibilities that are just a little too close to RL for my taste. I will get there eventually but it will be a big experiment that could easily sour the whole experience for me. I was enjoying my little business at my speed but reading the "Advice on Sales" thread now seems like a race and I feel like I'm falling behind which is discouraging...and I recently split with my Partner. I'm not sure how much I'll enjoy SL again now. (Yes I know I sound morose and would appreciate no kicking me while I'm down.) _____________________ Czari's Attic ~ Relive the fun of exploring an attic for hidden treasures! http://slurl.com/secondlife/Rakhiot/82/99/111 During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.- George Orwell
Jack42 Meredith Registered User Join date: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 418	05-15-2009 11:06 i am currently learning to build and lovin every minute of it.... next i wanna learn to script .
Nic Writer Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 740	05-15-2009 13:53 From: Czari Zenovka While taking classes I discovered building and decided to open a small shop. I was enjoying my little business at my speed but reading the "Advice on Sales" thread now seems like a race and I feel like I'm falling behind which is discouraging... Czari, I hope I'm not butting in here, but... I remember when you first posted here in the forums that you had started building and had decided to start an SL business. I've watched you post bits and pieces about it here since. One of the things I've always admired was how you ran your business in a way and on a scale that pleased you. Indirectly, you've been one of the influences that's made me think about selling some of the stuff I've made, though I haven't taken the plunge yet. Advice worth the paper it's printed on, but I'd encourage you to continue running your business in a way that's fun for you, and not to get caught up in a race mentality if that's not where you want to be. Make the business serve you, not the other way 'round. (And remember, that's advice from a non-business-owner and probably worth what you've paid for it... Hope things get better for you soon.) _____________________
Lear Cale wordy bugger Join date: 22 Aug 2007 Posts: 3,569	05-15-2009 14:42 From: Jack42 Meredith i am currently learning to build and lovin every minute of it.... next i wanna learn to script . That'll kill your fun!

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