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Vladimus Nikolaidis

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08-25-2007 10:12

Simple question .... the ever popular Megaprims.... all of them, the giant spheres, endless floors, etc.... are those illegal to rez and use?

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08-25-2007 10:14

Not that I am aware of unless its abusing a neighbors lot.

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Avacea Fasching

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08-25-2007 10:27

there not legal or illegal.

As long as they are not causing any problems, they are ok to use.

Rumor has it that sometimes they can affect physics, like gravity, and cause problems.

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Qie Niangao

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08-25-2007 10:31

If they cause problems that get reported, the Lindens will take them away (or at least that's the party line). One can greatly minimize the likelihood of problems by keeping them phantom (and no cheating with llVolumeDetect), non-physical(!) and (of course) wholly within your own parcel boundaries.

Bree Giffen

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08-25-2007 10:43

One problem with megaprims that I've seen is that people will innocently try out a megaprim in a sandbox and fill the entire sim with one giant prim that is too big for them to select, or even see, and basically everyone below where that prim was rezzed is screwed.

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poopmaster Oh

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08-25-2007 11:40

the ones that are as big or bigger then a sim are pretty useless

the ones that are the exact size of a 512 lot or a 1024 lot are very usefull and dont cause problems

512 = 16x32

1024 = 32x32

a 1 prim floor vs 16 prims to cover a 1024 = god must love me to have givin me mega prims

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Kyrah Abattoir

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08-25-2007 11:53

the large ones are okay as long as you own the sim

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Ava Glasgow

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08-25-2007 11:57

From: Kyrah Abattoir

the large ones are okay as long as you own the sim

Well... the ones up to the size of a sim are.

Unfortunately, there exist ones that are the size of 4 sims, 16 sims, and the entire grid. In my experience they don't actually extend that far, but they do cause odd things to happen within a couple hundred meters of their centers (at least INSIDE them... not sure about the very flat ones).

Perre Anatine

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08-25-2007 20:23

So what size of mega prim is safe to use seeing as I'm about to invest in a few...

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Avacea Fasching

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08-25-2007 20:49

the size thats no bigger than your land, of course...

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ArchTx Edo

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08-25-2007 20:50

From: Perre Anatine

So what size of mega prim is safe to use seeing as I'm about to invest in a few...

Don't pay for the, they are available free off of SL Exchange.

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Perre Anatine

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08-25-2007 20:54

Free...I'll go check that out..thanks

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08-25-2007 20:59

free?

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Perre Anatine

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08-25-2007 21:09

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free?

Uh oh..

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Ava Glasgow

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08-25-2007 22:11

Perre, didn't I send you a PM with a link to the free ones on SLX? Let me know if you didn't get that.

Flix Saiman

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08-25-2007 22:17

IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them

Electric Sheep
IBM

etc..

oh and ME! i use mega prims in alot of my builds.. I can say from first hand experience that if used properly they are a great tool. that being said. Any prim can be deemed illegal if used in a way to cause grief

Calveen Kline

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08-25-2007 22:26

Anything over 50 mts. becomes too cumbersome to handle, so that's where I draw the line.

Dnali Anabuki

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08-25-2007 23:46

The 20x20x0.05 is just lovely to use...I think there is a 40x40x40 cube that is somewhat useful too; the others are just too big for me to figure out anything cool to do with them.

I think Desmond Chang mentioned using a large one in Caledon in the future to simulate weather.

Aunna Anatine

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08-26-2007 03:20

Question for Builders: Though they may be legal when not used for griefing, is it considered good or bad practice to use them?

Imogen Saltair

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08-26-2007 03:26

I uses the 20x20x.5 for floors and ceilings, they save prims and are neat for texturing. If i was building sims, the long thin one for paths and roads would be useful. The builds i do dont call for anything larger than this, but i once frightened myself to death rezzing one in a sandbox which covered the whole sim (its dimensions were not named in my folder). Had to shout "sorrrrrrryyyyy!!!" to all the other builders and delete it quick. Very embarrassing.

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Day Oh

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08-26-2007 06:23

z0ngz! I made a ginormous rainbow.

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Rhaorth Antonelli

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08-26-2007 11:18

I use the 20 by 20 flat ones on the edge of the sim and textures with city scenes to enhance the sim I am building, saves on prims and causes no problems

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08-26-2007 11:44

From: Flix Saiman

IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them

Electric Sheep
IBM

etc..

oh and ME! i use mega prims in alot of my builds.. I can say from first hand experience that if used properly they are a great tool. that being said. Any prim can be deemed illegal if used in a way to cause grief

IBM is definitely a major player but ES is hardly a major player.

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Oryx Tempel

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08-26-2007 12:00

From: Flix Saiman

IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them

*waves to Flix* Howdy Flix!

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Ava Glasgow

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Link to free mega-prims on SLX

08-26-2007 12:04

The always courteous Mrs. Showdog Tiger asked for the SLX link for the free mega-prims that I mentioned, and I thought it would be nice to share with others:

http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=206333

There are actually several sets available on SLX, but I think this set includes all of the mega-prims. It includes a greater variety of sizes than is actually available, which are achieved through various cuts and such. It also includes a number of extra-tiny prims.

Megaprims - Illegal?
Vladimus Nikolaidis Registered User Join date: 4 May 2007 Posts: 9	08-25-2007 10:12 Simple question .... the ever popular Megaprims.... all of them, the giant spheres, endless floors, etc.... are those illegal to rez and use?
Xplorer Cannoli Cache Cleaner Join date: 18 Sep 2005 Posts: 1,131	08-25-2007 10:14 Not that I am aware of unless its abusing a neighbors lot. _____________________ Region Names for a Themed Shopping Experience: New Region: Gifts Accessories, Art, Avatars, Cars, Clothes, Clothing, Fashion, Fashions, Furnishings, Furniture, Gadgets, Games, Gifts, Hair, Jewellery, Jewelry, Mall, Men, Money, Music, Pets, Shoes, Shopping, Skin, Skins, Something, Women, X Attractions: Explore our new park at HOME New Racetrack at CAR WEAPONS Region Now Open!
Avacea Fasching Certified Join date: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 481	08-25-2007 10:27 there not legal or illegal. As long as they are not causing any problems, they are ok to use. Rumor has it that sometimes they can affect physics, like gravity, and cause problems. _____________________ post spelling was checked using - Speak & Spell
Qie Niangao Coin-operated Join date: 24 May 2006 Posts: 7,138	08-25-2007 10:31 If they cause problems that get reported, the Lindens will take them away (or at least that's the party line). One can greatly minimize the likelihood of problems by keeping them phantom (and no cheating with llVolumeDetect), non-physical(!) and (of course) wholly within your own parcel boundaries.
Bree Giffen ♥♣♦♠ Furrtune Hunter ♠♦♣♥ Join date: 22 Jun 2006 Posts: 2,715	08-25-2007 10:43 One problem with megaprims that I've seen is that people will innocently try out a megaprim in a sandbox and fill the entire sim with one giant prim that is too big for them to select, or even see, and basically everyone below where that prim was rezzed is screwed. _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Jirasan/244/8/402 <-click
poopmaster Oh The Best Person On Earth Join date: 9 Mar 2007 Posts: 917	08-25-2007 11:40 the ones that are as big or bigger then a sim are pretty useless the ones that are the exact size of a 512 lot or a 1024 lot are very usefull and dont cause problems 512 = 16x32 1024 = 32x32 a 1 prim floor vs 16 prims to cover a 1024 = god must love me to have givin me mega prims _____________________ InSL u find every kind of no-life retard you could possibly imagine as well as a few even Tim Burton couldnt imagine u find 12yr-olds claiming to be 40 men claiming 2 be women, women claiming 2 make sense and every1 claiming 2 have ideas that are actually worth a damn if only someone would just listen to their unique innovative and exceptionally important idea
Kyrah Abattoir cruelty delight Join date: 4 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,786	08-25-2007 11:53 the large ones are okay as long as you own the sim _____________________ tired of XStreetSL? try those! apez http://tinyurl.com/yfm9d5b metalife http://tinyurl.com/yzm3yvw metaverse exchange http://tinyurl.com/yzh7j4a slapt http://tinyurl.com/yfqah9u
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	08-25-2007 11:57 From: Kyrah Abattoir the large ones are okay as long as you own the sim Well... the ones up to the size of a sim are. Unfortunately, there exist ones that are the size of 4 sims, 16 sims, and the entire grid. In my experience they don't actually extend that far, but they do cause odd things to happen within a couple hundred meters of their centers (at least INSIDE them... not sure about the very flat ones).
Perre Anatine reflect..repent..reboot Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 714	08-25-2007 20:23 So what size of mega prim is safe to use seeing as I'm about to invest in a few... _____________________
Avacea Fasching Certified Join date: 23 Dec 2005 Posts: 481	08-25-2007 20:49 the size thats no bigger than your land, of course... _____________________ post spelling was checked using - Speak & Spell
ArchTx Edo Mystic/Artist/Architect Join date: 13 Feb 2005 Posts: 1,993	08-25-2007 20:50 From: Perre Anatine So what size of mega prim is safe to use seeing as I'm about to invest in a few... Don't pay for the, they are available free off of SL Exchange. _____________________ VRchitecture Model Homes at http://slurl.com/secondlife/Shona/60/220/30 http://www.slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&MerchantID=2240 http://shop.onrez.com/Archtx_Edo
Perre Anatine reflect..repent..reboot Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 714	08-25-2007 20:54 Free...I'll go check that out..thanks _____________________
3Ring Binder always smile Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 15,028	08-25-2007 20:59 free? oh. _____________________ it was fun while it lasted. http://2lf.informe.com/
Perre Anatine reflect..repent..reboot Join date: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 714	08-25-2007 21:09 From: 3Ring Binder free? Uh oh.. _____________________
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	08-25-2007 22:11 Perre, didn't I send you a PM with a link to the free ones on SLX? Let me know if you didn't get that.
Flix Saiman Registered User Join date: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 150	08-25-2007 22:17 IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them Electric Sheep IBM etc.. oh and ME! i use mega prims in alot of my builds.. I can say from first hand experience that if used properly they are a great tool. that being said. Any prim can be deemed illegal if used in a way to cause grief
Calveen Kline In pursuit of Happiness Join date: 5 Jan 2007 Posts: 682	08-25-2007 22:26 Anything over 50 mts. becomes too cumbersome to handle, so that's where I draw the line.
Dnali Anabuki Still Crazy Join date: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,633	08-25-2007 23:46 The 20x20x0.05 is just lovely to use...I think there is a 40x40x40 cube that is somewhat useful too; the others are just too big for me to figure out anything cool to do with them. I think Desmond Chang mentioned using a large one in Caledon in the future to simulate weather.
Aunna Anatine Registered User Join date: 7 Jul 2007 Posts: 17	08-26-2007 03:20 Question for Builders: Though they may be legal when not used for griefing, is it considered good or bad practice to use them?
Imogen Saltair Registered User Join date: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 682	08-26-2007 03:26 I uses the 20x20x.5 for floors and ceilings, they save prims and are neat for texturing. If i was building sims, the long thin one for paths and roads would be useful. The builds i do dont call for anything larger than this, but i once frightened myself to death rezzing one in a sandbox which covered the whole sim (its dimensions were not named in my folder). Had to shout "sorrrrrrryyyyy!!!" to all the other builders and delete it quick. Very embarrassing. imogen _____________________
Day Oh Registered User Join date: 3 Feb 2007 Posts: 1,257	08-26-2007 06:23 z0ngz! I made a ginormous rainbow. _____________________
Rhaorth Antonelli Registered User Join date: 15 Apr 2006 Posts: 7,425	08-26-2007 11:18 I use the 20 by 20 flat ones on the edge of the sim and textures with city scenes to enhance the sim I am building, saves on prims and causes no problems _____________________ From: someone Morpheus Linden: But then I change avs pretty often too, so often, I look nothing like my avatar. They are taking away the forums... it could be worse, they could be taking away the forums AND Second Life...
Gordon Wendt 404 - User not found Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1,024	08-26-2007 11:44 From: Flix Saiman IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them Electric Sheep IBM etc.. oh and ME! i use mega prims in alot of my builds.. I can say from first hand experience that if used properly they are a great tool. that being said. Any prim can be deemed illegal if used in a way to cause grief IBM is definitely a major player but ES is hardly a major player. _____________________ Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/GWendt Plurk: http://www.plurk.com/GordonWendt GW Designs: XStreetSL
Oryx Tempel Registered User Join date: 8 Nov 2006 Posts: 7,663	08-26-2007 12:00 From: Flix Saiman IBM uses them.. so when they stop using them i would be worried.. but alot of the major players use them waves to Flix Howdy Flix! _____________________
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	Link to free mega-prims on SLX 08-26-2007 12:04 The always courteous Mrs. Showdog Tiger asked for the SLX link for the free mega-prims that I mentioned, and I thought it would be nice to share with others: http://slexchange.com/modules.php?name=Marketplace&file=item&ItemID=206333 There are actually several sets available on SLX, but I think this set includes all of the mega-prims. It includes a greater variety of sizes than is actually available, which are achieved through various cuts and such. It also includes a number of extra-tiny prims.

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