Auto Return Question

I have my land set to Group with a 0 Auto Return.

Yesterday, I happened to notice that someone left a windsurfer on my land. Lots of prims. Who knows how long it was sitting there, but it sure was a lot longer than 0 minutes because I'd been home for a while and no Avatars were showing up on my Mysti by the time I discovered it on the other side of my property.

Obviously, sent it back to Owner. I don't windsurf

How is it that this item could be left there if my auto return is set so low? Let alone I wonder what dunce would leave such an item laying around unless they thought my land was open for all to use and she was coming back another time to hang out. Guess having a house surrounded by water is just too tempting for some people.

No object entry on? No build on?

0 Auto Return means "no auto return".

You need to set at least 1 minute, I think.

Doesn't setting it to zero disable the auto return?

0 does disable autoreturn. But the question as to how it got there relies on whether or not people can build or if object entry is on.

Ok bare with me, I'm no expert.

Last time I set it to 1, everything in my parcel got returned to ME and a few things to other people. It was a disaster! I guess because the land was set to group way after I purchased the land and all the objects on it (many of course) were put there by me as a private owner first. The land was basically left nearly half empty and I had to go about re-doing everything on it - including the reconfiguring my prim island. A mess.

I was advised by someone, to set it to 0 and keep it that way. Perhaps, this does seem incorrect now. But, then do I have to go through everything on my land and make sure each item is Set to Group?

I definitly do not have my land set to allow anyone other than Group members to be able to have any powers to build or anything else.

Is it possible the windsurfer just sort of floated there? That someone left it elsewhere and it wound up on my property?

Someone could have rode it in and hopped off or crashed and just left it there.

My land is group owned and my auto return is set to 5, last night I kept getting new things I set out returned to me even though I had my group tag on and was even rechecking the edit settings to make sure they were set to group. I figured it was a glitch and would try again another time. Anyone else have that happen to them?

Yes. Use tools > select only my objects, zoom out, select everything on the land, give it a few seconds to catch all the prims, and then set all the objects to the same group that the land is set/deeded to. That is the fastest way. Or, sell yourself the land with the objects on it.

Only when the asshat server is acting up, and that's usually immediate.

Thanks for that tip Cristalle

I am one of those 'dunces'
The ones that leave their vehicles laying around, (not intentionally).

Yesterday, I was sorting through my objects on a sandbox in the sky. I rezzed a freeby Flying Dentist Chair and thought, "Wow, cool!". I immediately got on and flew away. Of course I totally lost control (I don't drive in RL) and got thrown off while crossing sims. I landed somewhere and was immediately booted (banned?) and thrown onto someone else's roof - still in 'dentist chair' sitting position. I had no Idea where the chair was so couldn't take it back to inventory. It was later returned to me.

On behalf of all those who strand their vehicles on other people's land, I am sorry

/me wonders what kind of sick torture device that is?

The asshat server? So *that* is where all the asshats come from.

The best kind: a portable one!

Isabeau, that sounds like what happens when you're in a vehicle crossing a sim boundary and the parcel on the edge of the next sim is full. Or full enough that it can't deal with the number of prims in your vehicle.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-22 deserves a vote..

Fortunately, there was no drilling sound while it was being used. I think that would have freaked me out.




I had my 1st hair in the butt experience yesterday! I now feel normal, like the rest of the SL population... (and no, it was not while riding said creepy chair).

Meade, you just wrote something that clicked off a thought. I live on the edge of two sims. My home is bordered by the water of the other sim. Perhaps, this is the cause of the wandering item.

It may have happened once before. One of my neighbors a while ago asked me if I surf. I said "no, why?". He mentioned that he noticed a surfboard on my land and thought it would be nice if we went out surfing one day (this would never happen anyway, he's a teenage Av and into some odd stuff, so I'm polite, but stay away from him).

Perhaps these things are floating over, but some people notice it and manage to get them returned, others not.

Thanx Meade! I'll go vote and do my duty!

Could be but if you had autoreturn set to 0, it wasn't the sim returning other peoples things for you - 0 definitely disables autoreturn. Also, really low autoreturn times aren't always what you want. Something like 10-15 minutes is probably nicer on the sim, especially when griefers are about.

With bugs like SVC-22 around and that damned logout-on-TP/sim-crossing bug (SVC-972) that's been around for the last few months and the fact that some people are just careless/lazy/rude/stupid/unedumacated, there's a bunch of different ways that you could end up with things on your land..

My advice: try out the objects - maybe you get to play with a neat toy for a bit. That and _carefully_ get auto return setup at your place.

Good advice. Except for that dentist chair Isabeau mentioned.

/me shudders!

As others have said, 0 on Autoreturn does mean it's turned off. From the Knowledge Base:



1 is the minimum usable time if you want to use Autoreturn.

/me finds details on why this is so in an old blog post at http://blog.secondlife.com/2006/11/06/getting-technical-auto-return-time-increase/


/me wonders if, in addition to making grid attacks a _lot_ less painful, it might have introduced SVC-22..

I find non group objects from non group members on parcels where auto return is set to 0 and object entry and build are set to group only.

I also don't quite understand why I can place objects anywhere on my group land no matter what tag I'm wearing. I thought it only checked your active tag for those rights.

I've had some weird results, especially lately...

Items rezzed while wearing some other tag, but manually set to the correct group, get autoreturned.

Group listed as "Wating" in the edit window...but setting to group still works.

Items changing their permissions and/or their group status.

I haven't yet seen the very naughty behavior described by Elora...items rezzed while wearing the correct group tag getting autoreturned. But I figure it's only a matter of time.