SL isn't rezzing corectly for me.

I'm pretty sure this is directly related to my upgrade from Windows XP Pro 32bit to Windows XP Pro x64. I figured the jump to 64bit would be safe by this time, but I've hit several driver snafus so far (one of them being my motherboard, which meant I had to have friend download the drivers for me) so it wouldn't suprise me if this was the issue. I don't think I really need to post what my specs are, since SL was working fine before the upgrade, but seeing as I was wrong about the upgrade...

Motherboard: MSI P6N-SLI Platinum
Processor: Core 2 Duo E6600
Operating System: Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

The issue itself is pretty much that only a few objects rez completely, a few rez enough to show the texture (blurred though) while most never rez at all (grey). This also effects sculpty prims, which in this case means I can't even see their shape. If I stay in the same relative area for about 40 minutes to an hour just about everything rezzes completely, though quite a few stay blurry.

This really hampers things in SL, as I'm sure can be readily obvious to those reading.

I did a search on the forums, but I didn't see anything directly related to this issue, and I'm start to believe I'm the only one with the issue.

If there is anyone else out there with these issues, or perhaps with the knowledge of how to fix said issue (heck, even suggestions that you might think could help) are very welcome.

I really miss colors, textures and shapes... Please help.

Did you also update your video card drivers to the 64 bit version?

Yes, I did... The 64bit versions of the drivers are a bit behind the 32bit versions. This doesn't really matter much since the current nVidia drivers are missing key shaders and such so that rendering in SL is cut down (no Avatar Rendering or ripple water to name a few things). So, before the switch I was already using downgraded drivers. The drivers I'm running now are the only drivers available before the newest batch that has the missing shaders. We're I to upgrade to the most current drivers I'd been missing out on some graphical features within SL. But, for the sake of trying things, I will update to the latest (broken) drivers and attempt to log in to SL. I shall update momentarily.

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If anything, updating confounded the issue further, and seems tto have aggrivated the issue I was having. I can't really prove this, so I'll leave it be.

The point is that it's not the drivers, beyond a doubt.

Does anyone else have anything to offer?

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For anyone that wants to see what I was talking about in regards to missing Shaders, VWR-3164 JIRA shows exactly what I meant. This issue is essentially out of the Linden's hands and nVidia isn't talking about it short of saying thy see the problem. So, I'm not the only one using older drivers.

I'm taking a wild guess, but I'm going to assume it's motherboard's drivers. I'll run a few more tests to see if I can get any results to prove that wrong. If that's right, then I'm pretty much screwed until newer 64bit drivers are released.

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I just tried running SL without my firewall active. Same result. Seems like my theory about the motherboard's drivers seems to be accurate. I'd REALLY like to be proven wrong on this one though. Anyone else got some good ideas?

Hello Fei, I'm clutching at straws here but I'd guess that some textures rezzing but not others might indicate a traffic problem. Have you,
1) tried different sims,
2) tried adjusting your bandwidth slider in the comms tab I believe, of Properties?

Well, the effect happens all over SL, and as for the bandwidth slider, I've tried moving it about, but there has never been much effect to changing it's position for me. I've read countless guides saying that the slider should be at X, while countless others say it should be at Y. None of those seem to change my performance one way or the other. I heard that having it set too high is bad though, since it causes more lost packets. I'm on a 5m connection that, when I'm the only one using it, clock in about 4600+ kb/s. So I was for the longest time running with the slider set to 300. After this issue showed up I slid it back to the default 500. There was no perceivable difference.

Just because these ideas aren't working to solve the problem, doesn't mean that they are not appreciated. It's nice to see that you guys are making an effort to help me out. I recently posted over at Saitek about issues I'm having with their mouse (it's not working, and I'm stuck using an old mouse a friend had laying about) almost a week ago and no response at all. Not even something like you guys have asked. So, any response to my plight right now is comforting indeed.

Happy to help, just wish I was more knowledgable Fei. I get a lot of textures falling out and reloading, clothing mostly though. It's this 'some do, some don't' aspect I find curious. That to me would eliminate the graphic card I would have thought, unless is has a memory fault but that's not even clutching at straws .. that's clutching at empty space like Coyote when he's run off the cliff edge!
I see you're Dual Core. There was a word bandied about here a while back when they were coming in. Something about setting both cores to a single task or somesuch. I wonder if 64 bit change this or need it changing?

Another wild guess here, but in all the driver updates, have you looked at getting the network drivers specifically? Don't count on them being bundeled with the Motherboared chipset drivers. You may want to go into the NIC properties and set the speed instead of letting it auto-negotiate; I have seen this cause problems before but it is usually a symptom, not the problem. Still, it is a comon workaround for bad drivers.

abit off topic...

my avi client uses the normal viewer (not latest!) and has no problem rezzing anything, my alt wich uses WL, has serious rezzing issues as you described with not all textures rezzing, even if they are in cache, log it on the normal viewer and rezzes instantly

there was a thread a couple of days back wich had the poster`s issue with the normal client and WL running fine

something wonkey is happening is pritty much i can certantly tell you

Oho, it uses Realtek LAN:

Here's the drivers:
http://shorterlink.com/?SYFWIT

Windows update should've gotten the most current Realtek drivers, though.

You guys are really on the ball with this.

I know about the Dual Core issue with SL, not sure if it's still in effect, but just in case I'm running nHancer and set up a Single Core profile for Second Life.

Posting those drivers gave me an idea. The board is nForce (Geforce Series 6, 650i SLI) so I ran over to the nVidia page, and lo and behold they have motherboard drivers. I wish I had thought of this sooner, especially if this is the issue. The drivers were made, it seems, 2 days before the drivers listed on the MSI page. Though all the driver versions are a step up in digits. I'm going to give this a try, see what happens. It can't really hurt me, I hope.

Dual core works fine for me, I think that's an old issue. And you can enable mutli-threading, too. Client -> Rendering -> Enable Multithreading.

(alt-ctl-D to bring up client if it's not up already)

Well, used those drivers... and nothing changed...

So maybe the drivers aren't all that great for x64. Not sure how to test that, other than the fact that my setup was exactly the same before, just my operating system was x86 (32bit).

Did you do a fresh install or did you *cringe* update?

Okay, thing to try -- uninstall motherboard drivers using add/remove, reboot, hit cancel on the ZOMG N00 HARWARE when windows pops it up, run driversweeper to clear out any remnants, then try installing the chipset drivers again.

The motherboard should be nForce under driversweeper.

After doing this for the motherboard, then repeat for the graphics card.

Driver Sweeper:
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1655

Okay, here goes... something?

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Well now it's kind of working. I mean, stuff is rezzing, but it's still not rezzing quickly. Mind you I'm on a 6meg DSL line by myself. We got a new service, and I was checking the speed on it before hooking everyone else up. I'm hitting about 5300 kb/s, so I think connection can be ruled straight out. There has to be something going on with the software that is bottlenecking some how or something... that reminds me. Melissa Zerbino posted something NIC properties. I'm not exactly sure where this would be located. Anyone else here have a clue. In the mean time I'll be poking around a bit.

Well, I'm not exactly sure if the issue is any better than it was before, or if I've been getting lucky. Sometimes things seem to rez better (there is a HUGE difference between the viewers, which doesn't make any sense to me) and sometimes things rez semi quickly (well, quicker than the usual 40 minutes). So, either I did something right, or like my malfunctioning mouse it's just working better for no apparent reason.

Anyone else got some more advice? I still am not sure about the NIC thing, and I haven't been able to really find anything helpful about that either.

Thanks in advance.

Did you try installing the drivers for the NIC itself from either windows update or Realtek's site?

Control Panel --> System --> Hardware --> Device Manager

click [+] next to Network Adapters
right-click, properties on your adapter, should be a realtek with 8112 somewhere in the numbers.

Click "advanced"

Link Speed /Duplex Mode -- set to 100Mbps/Full Duplex unless you're connected to a 1G hub, in which case select 1000Mbps/Full Duplex.


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Are you connected directly to the cable modem? It's possible that your internet connection is getting flooded, as Windows XP/Vista throttle the number of connection attempts.

Even if it doesn't fix it, get a good hardware router in between the CM and your computer (yes, even if it's just one computer).

It'll run you slightly more than some internet security software ($50-$60 us), but in the long run is less hassle, offers a level of protection, and takes the brunt of things so your computer doesn't have to.

I'm fond of Netgear, not so fond of Linksys, other people may have suggestions.

Note -- even with a router in place, you'll still want some sort of anti-virus.

AVG works, and is free.

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Are you running any software besides windows firewall as "internet protection"?

Some 32bit firewall software doesn't interact properly with 64bit networking components, and will bog things down.

(see my above blather about just getting a hardware router)

My network adapter isn't Realtek, it's a nVidia nForce Network Controller

I'm on DSL, as I said before. There is no router it's all one module, but other s are on the same connection now as well, with no issues like this. Before that I was on Cable, same issue.

I'm using avast! I was using this prior to the upgrade with no issues

I'm using the COMODO firewall, but I tried connection to SL withit disabled and there was no change.

Got the asssumption from MSI's site:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=P6N_SLI_Platinum&class=mb
"Supports 10/100/1000 Fast Ethernet by Realtek® RTL8211BL"

But, "Specifications subject to change without notice" and all that.



According to Comodo's site, they support 64bit. Although if it's gone "funny", disabling it won't matter. if you add/remove programs on it, do you get a repair option? If so, you may want to repair it.

This may or may not be useful:

Control Panel -- Administrative Tools -- Event Viewer

Double-click "System" and look for things with yellow triangles.

Do the same for "Application".

Error
Source: DCOM
Event: 10016
User: Network Service

The machine-default permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
{BC866CF2-5486-41F7-B46B-9AA49CF3EBB1}
to the user NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE SID (S-1-5-20). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool.

This Error has been happening since the 9th, which is subsequently the first day using the OS.

I'm looking into it, if you have any advice on the matter, feel free.

Thank you guys!

[EDIT]
The fix for this, using Help, talks about adding Permissions for Users... But I'm logged in as Administrator. Shouldn't the account have access to everything?

[EDIT]
Okay, there was a second bit to that that I think might solve the issue. Apparently this is a big issue for Windows Server 2003, which the x64 version is directly built over. Kinda like building a new city on the ruins of another or some such I guess. So, I made the changes suggested, and I'll see what happens...

[EDIT]
Error was resolved...

But sadly, the issue remains.

What else you got up your sleeve? This is actually fun to do, granted I'm merely testing things that are suggested to me, but in the process I'm learning more about how my PC works, which is always good.

Erg.

This is my disclaimer that I'm just some random hoser on the internet and anything that happens to your computer isn't my fault.

open a notepad window

Start - Run - Regedit

Close the whole tree so all you have is My Computer with a Plus next to it.

Edit - Find - 9AA49CF3EBB1

Should give you something under HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/CLSID
Make sure it matches what was in the error.

On the right should be the APP_ID that's under that key.

Be very careful at this point -- we just want to copy the number, but don't change it.

right-click APP_ID --> Modify --> CTL- C --> CANCEL

Close regedit, then CTL-V in note pad, should paste the new number in it.

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Control Panel --> Administrative tools --> component services
On the "tree" on the left

(this may be slower than molasses)
Component Services --> Computers --> My Computer --> DCOM Config

View - Detail

Find the number you pasted into notepad in the list of Application ID's
(for posterity, please tell me the app it matches)

Right-Click-Properties

Security

under Launch and Activation pick customize, hit edit

click add

type local in the white box, then click check names --> this should pop up local service

click okay

hightlight local serivce, then make sure local launch and local activation are checked

click okay

click okay

reboot

More suggestions:

Are you running any filesharing stuff -- that tends to give SL conniptions.

Defragment your hard drive after installing windows? Usually it's a complete mess.

Delete SL Cache manually -- go to preferences, under network, note the folder location. Exit SL, find the folder and Shift-Del it.

if it's still all awry:

Help - About Second Life -- find the IP address of the sim

For example:
Areumdeuli located at sim262.agni.lindenlab.com (8.4.128.138:12035)
so the example IP is 8.4.128.138

from a command window:

(substitute your sim's IP

tracert 8.4.128.138 > c:\trace.txt

give it a couple of minutes to finish, then hit ctrl-C and close the command window

you should now have a trace.txt file in C:\, copy-paste that here.

Then maybe someone with more ideas can help. o.O

The DCOM Config is lacking an entry for {BC866CF2-5486-41F7-B46B-9AA49CF3EBB1}

I don't have any file sharing stuff, I used torrents before but they never caused and issue.

I'll try manually deleting the cache, and defragging.

If that doesn't do it, I'll hit up the the last suggestion. I have a few other things I can try. I'll keep you posted.

Thanks again.

[EDIT]
I tossed SL onto my External Drive, it's rezzing a bit better there, still slow... on top of that my videocard decided it was bored with getting things to rez and decided to up and shut down. I tried to see if I could get that to happen again, no dice... But SL did decide to crash hard on me... So, I think I'm done for now... I'll try doing other things later. Just really frustrated right now.

Is anyone else here using Windows XP Pro x64 Edition?

If so, are you having this issue too?

I am, and everything works fine...

After I cleared up a couple of errors in the Event log, which is why I asked about it.

Yeah I got the full screen tearing in Windlight again, and then there's the rezzing thing... I think this is a sign that Second Life hates me more than most. Or, maybe this is love... Maybe it does this out of love... Poor poor confused SL... I'm not too worried about it really, it's not like I can't connect... or that when I do I crash. I just live in a textureless world, void of color (it's not permanent, but standing in a store for about an hour only to find out that I really don't want anything there after all kinda sucks).