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Suden Sodwind
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12-22-2009 22:01
This is a petition to Linden Labs, asking them to please return Hussy Lustre to us. My good friend, Hussy Lustre, has been on SL for years. She has payment info on file, and is age verfied. Suddenly, without warning, she was booted from SL. When she complained, she was told she needed to send in additional age proof. She did so, and the Lindens lost it. This happened weeks ago, and she has tried every day to get some explanation or help with this, to no avail. Linden Labs, please fix this! Hussy is most certainly of legal age, and has broken no Second Life rules. We, the undersigned, are not asking for an explanation, we're not asking you to discuss this case with us, we're not asking you to make an exception, and we're not asking for an apology....we're just asking you to look into this and straighten it out. We want our Hussy back! Please sign this and send it back to me, and I will forward it to every Linden I can find. For more information, see the blog at https://blogs.secondlife.com/message/52584#52584, or IM me. Suden Sodwind Signed by: Parker Henley And!! Hussy is a very, very wonderful addition to SL. She makes many avi here smile!! shaila Yifu queeona tremor Anita Calamity Dolma Dollinger madison Arnahan Gerry Susanowa BDSM Jewell Jena Latte Sandra Frascati Fleur Laval ChiccaCruz Clawtooth
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-22-2009 22:03
Um, this is sweet and all . . . but you realize that Lindens virtually NEVER read or visit this forum? You might do better to choose a more direct approach . . . perhaps a ticket? And why would she be booted for not being age verified???? People only get booted from SL for some pretty specific offenses under the ToS . . . and not being age verified is not one of them. Are they arguing that she falsified her info? 
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Desmond Shang
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12-22-2009 22:07
Oh man. I sympathise with your cause and all... very sorry to hear it, but WOW did I get the wrong idea from the thread title.
Good luck, man.
Hope this works out.
Des
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-22-2009 22:08
From: Desmond Shang Oh man. I sympathise with your cause and all... very sorry to hear it, but WOW did I get the wrong idea from the thread title.
Good luck, man.
Hope this works out.
Des 
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Milla Janick
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12-22-2009 22:15
What a letdown this thread was.
Oh, IBTL.
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Alvaro Zapatero
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12-22-2009 22:21
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-22-2009 22:24
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Milla Janick
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12-22-2009 22:26
I know where they can find another one.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-22-2009 22:29
From: someone When she complained, she was told she needed to send in additional age proof. She did so, and the Lindens lost it. Send them another copy of the proof. Send them several copies. Possibly get the names of more than one Linden staffer and send them each a copy. Was the proof sent via the mail or was it faxed?
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12-22-2009 22:30
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Suden Sodwind
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12-22-2009 23:18
Here is the story in Hussy's own words, as of about a week ago:
This all started with a notice on SL that there was a problem with my log-in, suggesting I call a phone number to have my password approved.
I called the number, submitted a ticket and received a response from LL . . . although it took 7 days.
The response was in the form of a "no-reply email" informing me my account was on hold due to identity/age verification. (OK, maybe I am a little older than I appear, but is THAT their business!!). There were instructions on what to send and how to send it . . . by snail mail or fax (does anyone fax anymore?). So it was off tyo FedEx/Kinko's to use the fax machine, waiting 20 minutes before LL's fax number rang through.
Now it's just been a waiting game. I can't check the ticket progress because I can't log on. I can't check anything, BECAUSE I CAN'T LOG ON!! All I get is the same infernal phone number. I've talked with a variety of people in the U.K., which apparently is where the password verification keepers of all knowledge are. Some are friendly, some are bored, some are quite bitchy.
None of them have been helpful.
I've been asked to fax two more times, which, when I explain that little fact, they tell me "Well, faxes go to San Francisco office and we're in the U.K." WTF!!!!! Just today a very friendly customer "service" staffer told me my account had a notation that I "did not respond" and was closed. WTF!!! He SAID he restored my account and that he would send me an email to which I could attach a digital image. So I took a picture, hit email reply, attached the picture and sent the email.
Then I received an error message that it was a no-reply email he had sent me!! WTF!!!
So, back to Square 2.
At least I have the phone number memorized by now. And I'm starting to be on a first name basis with the Lindens.
Until sometime in the future I remain Hussy-in-Exile.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-22-2009 23:23
I confess I am still mildly confused . . . this is because she was ARed by someone as under 18? Can't she verify through Aristotle? Why was her physical appearance even an issue? Was it on her profile?
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Suden Sodwind
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12-22-2009 23:25
From: Scylla Rhiadra Um, this is sweet and all . . . but you realize that Lindens virtually NEVER read or visit this forum? You might do better to choose a more direct approach . . . perhaps a ticket? And why would she be booted for not being age verified???? People only get booted from SL for some pretty specific offenses under the ToS . . . and not being age verified is not one of them. Are they arguing that she falsified her info?  If you can suggest a better place to post this, Scylla, I will certainly put it there. And she was age verified, before this all happened. And if fact, it seems people get booted from SL all the time, without any reasons being given. I wish we knew what they were arguing...they don't say.
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Novis Dyrssen
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12-22-2009 23:29
From: Desmond Shang but WOW did I get the wrong idea from the thread title. Now I don't feel as bad when even your mind went that way. 
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Suden Sodwind
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12-22-2009 23:32
From: Scylla Rhiadra I confess I am still mildly confused . . . this is because she was ARed by someone as under 18? Can't she verify through Aristotle? Why was her physical appearance even an issue? Was it on her profile? We are all confused. We don't know what brought this on in the first place. There was nothing about her physical appearance in her profile.
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-22-2009 23:33
From: Suden Sodwind If you can suggest a better place to post this, Scylla, I will certainly put it there.
And she was age verified, before this all happened. And if fact, it seems people get booted from SL all the time, without any reasons being given.
I wish we knew what they were arguing...they don't say. Well, posting on the Blog is good; Lindens actually read that. Unfortunately, it looks as though the only action they DID take was to lock the thread. They almost never venture here, but you may get some good advice from some of the more LL-savvy people, so it's still probably worthwhile. Suezanne's post, above, seems like one possible response. Sorry if I seemed confused: your explanation in SL Answers was briefer, but actually a bit clearer. I'd be very curious to know why they require more proof of age from someone who has PIOF and has already verified . . . I still can't help but wonder if this maybe resulted from an AR, but who knows? Good luck with this.
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12-23-2009 00:24
let us know if you get your hussy back.... maybe I'll try to get one too...
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Marianne McCann
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12-23-2009 00:34
From: Scylla Rhiadra I confess I am still mildly confused . . . this is because she was ARed by someone as under 18? Can't she verify through Aristotle? Why was her physical appearance even an issue? Was it on her profile? Even if you age verify via Aristotle, an abuse report that one is underage can get the account locked, requiring one to send documentation to Linden Lab. I have a few kid friends who have been through, even one or two who have had to do it more than once. It's, um, not the most streamlined system.
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Treasure Ballinger
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12-23-2009 07:34
From: Desmond Shang Oh man. I sympathise with your cause and all... very sorry to hear it, but WOW did I get the wrong idea from the thread title.
Good luck, man.
Hope this works out.
Des Which is why you came running in to read it? /me laughs 
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Melita Magic
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12-23-2009 20:29
I had this image in mind of someone giving away free huzzies.
Holiday stress, I imagine. (Still...it made me laugh.)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-23-2009 20:32
From: Marianne McCann Even if you age verify via Aristotle, an abuse report that one is underage can get the account locked, requiring one to send documentation to Linden Lab. I have a few kid friends who have been through, even one or two who have had to do it more than once. It's, um, not the most streamlined system. One wonders, then, what the point of Aristotle is, exactly.
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12-23-2009 20:38
From: Scylla Rhiadra One wonders, then, what the point of Aristotle is, exactly. LL never trusted Aristotle enough to take that particular scrap of code out of beta. I have no idea why they're wasting space keeping it, but there you go. I also have no idea why LL bothers to with paper proof either. It can be faked just as easily.
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Melita Magic
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12-23-2009 20:39
From: Raudf Fox I also have no idea why LL bothers to with paper proof either. It can be faked just as easily. Legal coverage? There is only so much one can do. It's more than pr0n sites do: "Are you over 18? Okay then. Go on in."
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Scylla Rhiadra
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12-23-2009 20:40
From: Raudf Fox LL never trusted Aristotle enough to take that particular scrap of code out of beta. I have no idea why they're wasting space keeping it, but there you go.
I also have no idea why LL bothers to with paper proof either. It can be faked just as easily. Exactly. I knew someone who faked an entire Facebook page, complete with fake RL friends, photos, videos . . .
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12-23-2009 20:41
But Facebook doesn't require any proof of identity as I recall.
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